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Bobby Baccala

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

"Crossroads" by Bone Thugs is a better song than every single of Drake's songs that he has done and he ever will do.

I was only listening to that earlier, what a brilliant song, from the music video, to the beat and lyrics it's just a solid song.

Jimmy Iovine

Havoc says Mobb Deep are on a hiatus and confirms that he blasted Prodigy on Twitter

I honestly thought this was over but it seems to have started all over again.

He's even putting out a diss track about Prodigy on his next album. This is a ridiculous.

Havoc previously said that his Twitter account was hacked after he allegedly posted tweets putting his Mobb Deep partner Prodigy on blast, but both later denied that there was any beef in the camp.

Now, Hav has confirmed that those tweets came directly from him and that Mobb Deep is on an indefinite break. "The tweets is crazy," he told AllHipHop.com. "And I was speaking of a standpoint of being mad, but still being truthful of how I felt - but it was just the wrong thing to do at the time."

Hav says that Mobb Deep is currently inactive and that the truth will come out regarding what went down between him and Prodigy.

"Right now Mobb Deep is on hiatus, indefinitely…until things get hashed out,” he said. “Eventually, the real story will come out; there’s two sides to every story. Only one has been spoken for.”

Havoc also has a diss record towards Prodigy on the way that will be featured on his upcoming solo album Thirteen.

Bobby Baccala

He's an awful shíthead, seriously. What an immature and poxy thing to do to the man that was alongside him in their rise to fame.

Talib Fiasco

Have lost alot of respect for both Prodigy and Havoc but more so Havoc obviously. These two guys are really embarrassing themselves with this stuff. Like twitter and Mobb Deep shouldn't be in the same sentence. They're not selling any CD's anymore and are relying on the 90's to even stay somewhat relevant now. And how the hell will a diss track 'hash' everything out. For gods sake I hope P doesn't respond on wax. They can't write for death anymore. It'll be just pure embarrassing. I'm really interested in the whole truth though. Eventhough I forgot about this after they denied it I still was adamant something was up. I remember Cormega was talking up about Mobb Deep in the 90's and how he owed them so much and everythin. Why would a guy who is very close to the two say something like that unless he knew the 'truth'? And NORE confirming the audio was Hav then denying it was by saying he did it for a laugh is a horrible excuse. Honestly this is sad day. Alot worse than when the tweets went out. The Infamous is probably my favourite album period but I've lost alot of respect for these two guys. It's crazy how things change though. I always knew P didn't mess with Havoc as much as before but they'd be the last duo you'd think of breaking up like that. Eh whatever. We've got the best they got to offer for life and I don't care really anymore.

Bobby Baccala

TheComeUp wrote: »

Have lost alot of respect for both Prodigy and Havoc but more so Havoc obviously. These two guys are really embarrassing themselves with this stuff. Like twitter and Mobb Deep shouldn't be in the same sentence. They're not selling any CD's anymore and are relying on the 90's to even stay somewhat relevant now. And how the hell will a diss track 'hash' everything out. For gods sake I hope P doesn't respond on wax. They can't write for death anymore. It'll be just pure embarrassing. I'm really interested in the whole truth though. Eventhough I forgot about this after they denied it I still was adamant something was up. I remember Cormega was talking up about Mobb Deep in the 90's and how he owed them so much and everythin. Why would a guy who is very close to the two say something like that unless he knew the 'truth'? And NORE confirming the audio was Hav then denying it was by saying he did it for a laugh is a horrible excuse. Honestly this is sad day. Alot worse than when the tweets went out. The Infamous is probably my favourite album period but I've lost alot of respect for these two guys. It's crazy how things change though. I always knew P didn't mess with Havoc as much as before but they'd be the last duo you'd think of breaking up like that. Eh whatever. We've got the best they got to offer for life and I don't care really anymore.

why have you lost respect for prodigy?

mufcboy1999

shame about mobb deep, there black cocaine lp a few months back was pretty good.

Talib Fiasco

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

why have you lost respect for prodigy?

Why have I lost respect for Prodigy? Well really it's one of them two of them. In fairness although P is the more innocent of the two here he's still guilty of obviously setting Havoc off about something...he too denied the whole beef back when it surfaced and even posed for a photo at the Knicks game. Why would you do that with the guy who has called you gay and basically made a joke out of P's whole 90's persona. And remember P felt like a don by claiming it was a plan to get publicity and all that. I would really have no problem with that but seeing now it looks that he was lying there too I damn right have lost respect for him. Coming from the guy who infamously (no pun intended) spat 'I got you stuck off the realness' this sounds anything but 'real'. I couldn't give a damn if P is gay. In a way it might be a good thing for Hip Hop although he could be labelled a complete phony because of it. But c'mon the guy is nearly as bad as Havoc in this. I'd rather he would have told the truth on day 1 and just let the fans know whats up instead of dragging this out for way too long. I know Havoc is the cause of re igniting this but as I said above both parties are in the wrong here. This very well could be another stunt by them. I find it a little too ironic that this has re surfaced a few weeks after Prodigys album dropped and just before Havoc's album is dropping. If that right there is true I'm sorry but literally f*ck the pair of them. The Infamous is my favourite album period but I would have no time for people who're desperate for some limelight and don't deserve it and try to get it in sick twisted ways. But yeah I've lost respect for P for his whole part in this saga. Plain and simple.

Jimmy Iovine

I think there are a few Breaking Bad fans on here, so I said I'd post this t-shirt design. It's pretty brilliant. Everyone should know where they got the inspiration for it from.

Only €17 as well. I think I might invest in it.



http://www.redbubble.com/people/lukeshirt/works/7997964-breaking-bad-mr-white-the-cook?body_color=white&p=t-shirt&print_location=front&size=medium&style=mens

Masked Man

Snoop has undergone a spiritual rebirth in Jamaica. His new name is Snoop Lion. I'm not kidding.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/snoop-no-longer-a-dogg-now-a-lion/story-e6frfn09-1226439599529

Boom_Bap

Masked Man wrote: »

Snoop has undergone a spiritual rebirth in Jamaica. His new name is Snoop Lion. I'm not kidding.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/snoop-no-longer-a-dogg-now-a-lion/story-e6frfn09-1226439599529

There is a documentary coming out about this as well about his time in Jamaica.
From what I've seen so far, it looks great, and is getting great reviews.
Not sure about the music that has been released so far, I haven't paid much attention to it yet but it will be interesting to hear.
He basically didn't want to record another rap album because he is sick of it.

mufcboy1999

He has a reggae song doing the rounds ATM which is awful. He's retirement from rap is probably a good thing going by his stuff in recent years, his legacy can't be tarnished anymore than it is from doing those pop and dance songs.

Publicity stunt if you ask me though, snoop doggy dog to snoop dogg now snoop lion ! He's nearly as bad as Puff daddy I mean p diddy or was it diddy ?

Jimmy Iovine

Exclusive never seen before footage of Eminem laughing. It's around the 2:50 mark in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha0sFX-hTvY

mufcboy1999

dont know if there's any documentary heads here but there's a documentary called selling drugs for money coming soon with some hip hop lads ft the real rick ross, 50 cent and eminem for some reason (didnt think he was involved in that trade)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1XUacHQis8

Jimmy Iovine

Is that actually real?

If it is I'm surprised that it's being released. The last thing people, like Em and Fiddy, should be doing is glamorising drugs. They did enough of that in their music back in the day. I thought they'd grown out of that nonsense.

mufcboy1999

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Is that actually real?

If it is I'm surprised that it's being released. The last thing people, like Em and Fiddy, should be doing is glamorising drugs. They did enough of that in their music back in the day. I thought they'd grown out of that nonsense.

i dont think there glamorizing drugs, i say its more there experience in dealing them and the effects it had on their lives.

Jimmy Iovine

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

i dont think there glamorizing drugs, i say its more there experience in dealing them and the effects it had on their lives.

"If you know what to do (with 3 and half grams) then you'll be alright" - Fiddy

They may not be fully glamorising it, but the documentary definitely is. Why else would they have Freeway Rick in there saying that he was making a million dollars every day.

I wonder will they point out that he was originally sentenced to life in prison for trying to purchase coke, before it was reduced to 20 years?

The voice-over guy called it an "exciting" global industry. Some of these people seem to believe all that Tony Montana bollicks.

mufcboy1999

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

i dont think there glamorizing drugs, i say its more there experience in dealing them and the effects it had on their lives.

"If you know what to do (with 3 and half grams) then you'll be alright" - Fiddy

They may not be fully glamorising it, but the documentary definitely is. Why else would they have Freeway Rick in there saying that he was making a million dollars every day.

I wonder will they point out that he was originally sentenced to life in prison for trying to purchase coke, before it was reduced to 20 years?

The voice-over guy called it an "exciting" global industry. Some of these people seem to believe all that Tony Montana bollicks.

It's a very harsh reality, there's people out making truck loads and getting away it. Iv seen enough drug docs on addicts with the polices side of things etc Ross kemp style docs.

I'm sure theyll explain freeway ricky Ross's story, it was only a trailer in fairness. As long as its interesting il watch it and tbh it looks alright IMO.

It's a way of life though infact nearly a culture , look how much influence the drug trade has over hip hop, entertainment etc. Selling drugs is some people's Only chance of survival in countries like America in the slums.

I'm sure there going to go into how the drugs and guns get there in the first place but that's opening up a whole differnt can of worms.

tossy

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I think there are a few Breaking Bad fans on here, so I said I'd post this t-shirt design. It's pretty brilliant. Everyone should know where they got the inspiration for it from.

Only €17 as well. I think I might invest in it.



http://www.redbubble.com/people/lukeshirt/works/7997964-breaking-bad-mr-white-the-cook?body_color=white&p=t-shirt&print_location=front&size=medium&style=mens

Thats great,i'm ordering a hoody! thanks for the link.

Jimmy Iovine

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

It's a very harsh reality, there's people out making truck loads and getting away it. Iv seen enough drug docs on addicts with the polices side of things etc Ross kemp style docs.

I'm sure theyll explain freeway ricky Ross's story, it was only a trailer in fairness. As long as its interesting il watch it and tbh it looks alright IMO.

It's a way of life though infact nearly a culture , look how much influence the drug trade has over hip hop, entertainment etc. Selling drugs is some people's Only chance of survival in countries like America in the slums.

I'm sure there going to go into how the drugs and guns get there in the first place but that's opening up a whole differnt can of worms.

I'll hold my opinion until I see the final thing. Hopefully they show both sides to the story.

Jimmy Iovine

This is the 3rd highest viewed video on Youtube featuring The Roots.

I don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. At least it introduces more people to them I suppose.

The video itself is great. Questlove is playing a guiro with his afro pick. The dude in the back left is brilliant, just bobbing his head from side to side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEsPhTbJhuo

Jimmy Iovine

Has anyone heard of a guy called The Last Emperor?

The Expert linked to some of his music on Twitter just there and I gave a listen. It's pretty nice stuff. Had a search for him and he seems to be a bit of an underground legend. Supposedly it's next to impossible to find his music. He was signed to Aftermath and was Dre's protégé but left because Dre started working with Eminem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX8dHbql2M

conor.hogan.2

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

He was signed to Aftermath and was Dre's protégé but left because Dre started working with Eminem.

Heard of one of his songs, never knew he was Dres protege. Dre has gone through a lot of proteges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDVs8ixHnUg

Talib Fiasco

The Last Emperor is brilliant. Music, Magic, Myth is my favourite album by him. I'm on my phone atm so I can't embed youtube links but check out the songs 'One Life', 'Secret Wars (crazy good concept track)' and 'Meditation' if you'd like.

Andy_rse

Speaking of Dr Dre proteges, whatever happened to Hittman? Does he have any material out?

Boom_Bap

The Last Emporer is a hero. This is the best song from 2010 hands down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH01VHTbXk8

All his albums are solid.

conor.hogan.2

Andy_rse wrote: »

Speaking of Dr Dre proteges, whatever happened to Hittman? Does he have any material out?

Last thing I heard about hittman was Game asking people to not stop him and ask him about hittman.

Andy_rse

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Last thing I heard about hittman was Game asking people to not stop him and ask him about hittman.

Haha brilliant!

mufcboy1999

speaking of former dre proteges is right... one of my favourites bishop lamont released a video today for dont stop... proper westcoast feel to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlj7Y-RBl_U

SdoowSirhc

Any thoughts on this track? Had no idea Metro Zu were working with rappers for this sort of track :P Hooked on them for a few weeks now. Denzel Curry goes hard on this :cool:

Bobby Baccala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubobf9M4QzU

I despise more or less everything odd future do but this song is actually not that bad at all, beat is fire imo. Rapping is only average, still dont understand all the hype about them. This is the only thing they've done that I'm actually able to listen to.

SdoowSirhc

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubobf9M4QzU

I despise more or less everything odd future do but this song is actually not that bad at all, beat is fire imo. Rapping is only average, still dont understand all the hype about them. This is the only thing they've done that I'm actually able to listen to.

Oldie is a great song :cool: I was super suprised to hear Thinking of You on the radio today. Frank Ocean has really been doing well recently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEUNGSC3oe4 Loving this too..

Andy_rse

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

I despise more or less everything odd future do but this song is actually not that bad at all, beat is fire imo. Rapping is only average, still dont understand all the hype about them. This is the only thing they've done that I'm actually able to listen to.

Exact same as me mate. I think I was drawn into the video for it when someone posted it here because they're having fun in it and found myself nodding my head and thinking, this ain't bad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzi24Nssiow

mufcboy1999

thats actually a class song, was this made before ocean came out or is it new?because he' says im bi in it.

That beat is some WU sh*t, quality.

Andy_rse

The track came out before Frank did. Someone posted the track pointing out that line when the news came out.

conor.hogan.2

Would be good if it was a freestyle as it is catchy and has little substance.

Bobby Baccala

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Would be good if it was a freestyle as it is catchy and has little substance.

Very true about the lack of substance but not even their lack of ability as rappers could take away from that beat, absolute fire. Apparently Tyler produced it, i didnt know who made their beats.

conor.hogan.2

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Apparently Tyler produced it

So he is not as useless as I thought. The beat does make it and the energy, but as far as lyrics go it is like a freestyle.

Talib Fiasco

Here lads if ye were to get a tattoo and it'd be hip hop related...what would ye get? I'm kinda leaning towards lyrics here but anything hip hop related. I'm not getting a tattoo for a while yet but I always said I'd get at least one with some lyrics on it. I've spent hours trying to decide what lyrics I would get though. Something like Nas or One Be Lo would probably be my pick but it's so damn hard to choose what lines!!!

PrettyBoy

TheComeUp wrote: »

Here lads if ye were to get a tattoo and it'd be hip hop related...what would ye get? I'm kinda leaning towards lyrics here but anything hip hop related. I'm not getting a tattoo for a while yet but I always said I'd get at least one with some lyrics on it. I've spent hours trying to decide what lyrics I would get though. Something like Nas or One Be Lo would probably be my pick but it's so damn hard to choose what lines!!!

So many quotes running through my head but get the feeling none of them would be helpful :pac:

Boom_Bap

When you find a quote you want, sit on it for a while because, you know, it's going to be on you forever. I personally wouldnt go for a long extract of lyrics, just a line or something that means something.
This is my favorite hip-hop tat on Aesop Rock:



Sage Francis also has a host of pictures of people with tats of the Lie in a Life 'Li(F)e' thing, some of which are excellent. He has a site dedicated to it which is worth looking up.

mufcboy1999

TheComeUp wrote: »

Here lads if ye were to get a tattoo and it'd be hip hop related...what would ye get? I'm kinda leaning towards lyrics here but anything hip hop related. I'm not getting a tattoo for a while yet but I always said I'd get at least one with some lyrics on it. I've spent hours trying to decide what lyrics I would get though. Something like Nas or One Be Lo would probably be my pick but it's so damn hard to choose what lines!!!

I'm set to get this line by havoc from mobb deep, it means something to me but I'm just having trouble picking a location. Iv got 2 tribal designs on my back and traps and I'm not a fan of forearm tatts (no offence to any1 who has them) anyway make sure the lryics are what you want and something you can relate too.

My line is , people make mistakes but mistakes make people. Il post the song later as I'm on the phone but if the line is too long look into symbols or an Asian translation , some can look really good and be a lot shorter !

Boom_Bap

I've convinced myself that I'm not a forearm type of person either, but that's mainly because my job can be customer facing in hot climates...so not quite professional

But I do have an excellent design, which is not hip hop related, all ready to go, but for some reason I have started getting eczema on my leg where i've planned the design. So that's kinda screwed that up.

conor.hogan.2

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Sage Francis also has a host of pictures of people with tats of the Lie in a Life 'Li(F)e' thing, some of which are excellent. He has a site dedicated to it which is worth looking up.

The exact thing I thought of when I read that post.

That said I would not tatoo anything on me but if I would it would be a Sage quote.

Bobby Baccala

"ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME"

:p I'm joking, that has to be the most overused hip hop related quote ever.
A friend of mine has a tupac quote on his bicep saying "for every dark night there's a brighter day" or something along those lines. I'm trying to convince him to get "who shot ya" on the other arm, he's not going for it.

conor.hogan.2

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

"for every dark night there's a brighter day" or something along those lines. I'm trying to convince him to get "who shot ya" on the other arm, he's not going for it.

"That's right, I know it seem hard sometimes but remember one thing.
Through every dark night, there's a bright day after that.
So no matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out; keep your head up, and handle it"

Having "who shot ya" on your other arm would just suck imo after the first one unless you were going for polar opposites/irony.

Bobby Baccala

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Having "who shot ya" on your other arm would just suck imo after the first one unless you were going for polar opposites/irony.

lol it was a joke man, the lad with the tattoo is a major Pac Stan, the thoughts of him getting an alleged diss against pac tattooed on his body is laughable.

Speaking of hip hop related tattoos, on the day of the Watch the throne gig in town i walked by the whitest lad I've ever seen and he had "Thug Life" tattooed across his chest in Old English text, looked like a proper spanner.

conor.hogan.2

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

lol it was a joke man, the lad with the tattoo is a major Pac Stan, the thoughts of him getting an alleged diss against pac tattooed on his body is laughable.

Speaking of hip hop related tattoos, on the day of the Watch the throne gig in town i walked by the whitest lad I've ever seen and he had "Thug Life" tattooed across his chest in Old English text, looked like a proper spanner.

Yeah, it seemed like a joke to me in the sense it is a completely useless quote compared to the other one I didn't even think of the context.

Yeah, Hiiipower* would be a much better tattoo as you would not look like a ghob****e for having it tattoo'd on you (that said, I would still not have a tattoo anyway)

*essentially equivalent (along with being better thought out as it can not be misconstrued by idiots) and heavily inspired by TL.

Bobby Baccala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owy76XdBtWE

Anybody got an idea who produced this? The scratches sound like Premos work but the rest of the track sounds nothing like him.

Andy_rse

TheComeUp wrote: »

Here lads if ye were to get a tattoo and it'd be hip hop related...what would ye get? I'm kinda leaning towards lyrics here but anything hip hop related. I'm not getting a tattoo for a while yet but I always said I'd get at least one with some lyrics on it. I've spent hours trying to decide what lyrics I would get though. Something like Nas or One Be Lo would probably be my pick but it's so damn hard to choose what lines!!!

You should def get this

Mr. Rager

Andy_rse wrote: »

You should def get this

This song sums up that photo nicely.

Finally Nicki Minaj is useful for something, other than her arse being a nice cockholder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM