Can I teach if I have a PhD but no Hdip?

scopper

As per the thread title I've been looking into it and wondering whether a hdip is *the* means of entering teaching, and that without it one does not stand a chance. Is this true? I have a PhD (Humanities) and have been toying with the idea of teaching in a secondary school, but hoping to avoid returning for yet more training.

whiteandlight

I'm not sure if you are joking or not but talking it seriously....

You must have a HDIP or PGDE in Education to teach in Ireland. In order to qualify for that course you must have at least one teaching subject from your degree/further education. It doesn't matter if you have 10 PHDs, without a teaching qualification you cannot teach secondary/primary education. It is a one year full time course, costs about 6k and there are few if any jobs in this sector in Ireland.

scopper

OK I think we can consider this answered. Thanks.

Damokc

Thought anyone with a degree in "a science" can teach or is it they can just sub?

whiteandlight

Damokc wrote: »

Thought anyone with a degree in "a science" can teach or is it they can just sub?

In order to teach you must have a teaching qualification. There is currently an oversupply of teachers so while in the past you might have got unqualified rate for substitution it is a very rare occurrence now

implausible

You must have a degree in a teaching subject and a Post Graduate in Education to teach in this country.

In the past, it was possible to teach with just a degree in the VEC sector. That is no longer the case.

spurious

...or a specialised teaching degree, which means you don't need to do a PGDE.

Taffy Kat

I know this is a few months after the original post but as I understand it if you have a PhD you'd have no trouble getting lecturing hours (both here in Ireland and in other countries if you speak the language) and you'd be paid at a far higher rate than you ever would teaching in a primary/secondary school.

dory

Taffy Kat wrote: »

I know this is a few months after the original post but as I understand it if you have a PhD you'd have no trouble getting lecturing hours (both here in Ireland and in other countries if you speak the language) and you'd be paid at a far higher rate than you ever would teaching in a primary/secondary school.

You kidding?? Lecturing hours are like frogs teeth.

looksee

dory wrote: »

You kidding?? Lecturing hours are like frogs teeth.

Frogs do in fact have teeth, most of them anyway.

golden virginia

Very soon its going to be a case that if you are not registered with the teaching council you will not be paid for any teaching. This includes PhD's and anyone else who is not registered. http://www.asti.ie/news/latest-news/news-article/article/teaching-council-act-section-30-to-be-enacted//back_to/asti-home/

rias

Heard that many teachers who previously have not paid up to teaching council will now be paying up or reapplying!!

spurious

golden virginia wrote: »

Very soon its going to be a case that if you are not registered with the teaching council you will not be paid for any teaching. This includes PhD's and anyone else who is not registered. http://www.asti.ie/news/latest-news/news-article/article/teaching-council-act-section-30-to-be-enacted//back_to/asti-home/

The problem is, it's like the boy who cried wolf. They've been using 'unregistered people will not be paid' as a big stick for years, when it simply wasn't true.
Now it will soon be true, or so they tell us.

lestat21

Reading between the lines, im guessing that while part time and substitute teacher have had to fork out 90 euro each year (just in case they get a job) permanent teachers jus havent bothered. Am I right??

Thats just not fair.... Sure its a loophole that means theyll have to reapply now if the TC are serious.. but I doubt it and il still have to pay my 90 euro this summer, in the hope that i'll get more than 2 months work next year *sigh*

byhookorbycrook

Most of my staff have paid the €90 all along. Kicking ourselves to see how it's wasted.