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setting up a new scope

  • 28-12-2011 1:37am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭


    how do you do it?

    I put it on the air rifle, fired a shot and feck me, it was so far off even at 20 metres.. aimed at the target and the pellet ended up at the 10 o'clock position but several feet higher up and to the left of the target..


    without the scope, I can hit the centre of the target OK


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    CamperMan wrote: »
    how do you do it?

    I put it on the air rifle, fired a shot and feck me, it was so far off even at 20 metres.. aimed at the target and the pellet ended up at the 10 o'clock position but several feet higher up and to the left of the target..


    without the scope, I can hit the centre of the target OK

    I set up a scope.on the cousins air rifle.
    The break barrel rifle he had hinge screw would loosen and accuracy would shift.

    Tighten the screw and back on target.

    What type of Air Rifle you have?
    Spring loaded or compressed gas operated?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Did you centralise the scope before you fitted it? It sounds like the scope may not be "zeroed" for mounting.

    Take the scope, and dial both turrets to their maximum. Now dial all the way back to the other end of the turrets adjustment while counting the clicks/MOA of both the elevation, and windage. For examples sake we'll say there is 50 MOA or 200 clicks on each turret.

    Now with the elevation turret amke sure you have it dialled all the way down. Until there is no more down adjustment left. With the windage turret you dial in 25 MOA or 100 clicks. This leaves the elevation turret at its owest setting, and the windage turret centralised (or in the middle of its possible adjustment).

    Now re-mount the scope, and line it up at a target at 10 - 15 metres. Fire a shot, and see where it lands. Adjust the scope as necessary until you are in the bull. Remember the amount of clicks you are using. Write it down if necessary.

    Once you have it on bull, and can consistantly hit the bull move the target back to say 25metres. Aim, and fire. See the difference in drop and adjust the scope as necessary to hit the bull. Again writing down the adjusments made. Now you can move the scope back to 50 netres or whatever you chosen distance is. The further back you go you may find that you will have to make the occassional windage adjustment as the pellet is more effected by wind over distance.

    Try this. If the problem still persists after this then photos of your mounts/setup would help. It could be a mount or even a scope problem.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    Thanks Ezridax

    I will try this today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    I set up a scope.on the cousins air rifle.
    The break barrel rifle he had hinge screw would loosen and accuracy would shift.

    Tighten the screw and back on target.

    What type of Air Rifle you have?
    Spring loaded or compressed gas operated?

    break barrel, spring loaded Browning Gold Hunter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    CamperMan wrote: »
    break barrel, spring loaded Browning Gold Hunter

    I know if you fire them off a bipod they are hitting all over the place as they are designed to be fired off hand.

    When they fire there is a large spring vibration through the stock.
    If they are held to rigid it can affect the harmonics (how the barrel vibrates) and affects the point of impact.

    Very tricky Zero a break barrel for that reason, it's the One of the reasons the compressed gas types became so popular.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭Mr.Flibble


    CamperMan wrote: »
    without the scope, I can hit the centre of the target OK


    Dump the scope; you seem to be doing fine with just the irons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    Mr.Flibble wrote: »
    Dump the scope; you seem to be doing fine with just the irons.

    I got the scope to shoot at targets further away :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    CamperMan wrote: »
    I got the scope to shoot at targets further away :)

    Did you try Zeroing off the shoulder?
    Tricky, but do-able. I had to help a guy zero his years ago, the screw keep loosening whichwas a PITA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    Did you try Zeroing off the shoulder?
    Tricky, but do-able. I had to help a guy zero his years ago, the screw keep loosening whichwas a PITA

    Yes, and also lying on the ground with the air rifle resting on a sack


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    CamperMan wrote: »
    Yes, and also lying on the ground with the air rifle resting on a sack
    Was your accuracy sporadic, or consistantly wrong in the same direction?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    Was your accuracy sporadic, or consistantly wrong in the same direction?

    with the scope, it was all over the place, no consistency in the shots, I would be missing the paper target by a good few feet..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    CamperMan wrote: »
    with the scope, it was all over the place, no consistency in the shots, I would be missing the paper target by a good few feet..

    Scope may be loose, or not able for felt recoil of spring in your rifle.
    As I said earlier loose hinge screws would cause that, or loose mount screws.

    What make of scope is it?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Have you tried doing as i suggested above or anything similar so as to pin down the scope as the problem or elominate it rather than constantly guessing what it might or might not be?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    Scope may be loose, or not able for felt recoil of spring in your rifle.
    As I said earlier loose hinge screws would cause that, or loose mount screws.

    What make of scope is it?

    can't remember the make... the mountings are very tight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    Ezridax wrote: »
    Have you tried doing as i suggested above or anything similar so as to pin down the scope as the problem or elominate it rather than constantly guessing what it might or might not be?

    Ye.... I am working on that today :)


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