NFL DRAFT 2012

who in the name of god is derek wolfe missed the first few picks

UnitedIrishman

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

That's a nice pick from Bill. He lit up the three cone drill too.

Really working the starting defense with these picks and considering Bill could work with pretty much any offensive options, (well even at that you got Gronk, Hernandez and Welker.. oh and Brady) if they manage to work these guys into the team early then the Pats are going to be unreal next year.

spiralism

Reuben Purring Tray wrote: »

who in the name of god is derek wolfe missed the first few picks

Solid but unspectacular DT, was projected at the bottom of the second rather than the top. Hard worker though and an every down player. Should be a like for like replacement for Bunkley imo

spiralism

spiralism wrote: »

Solid but unspectacular DT, was projected at the bottom of the second rather than the top. Hard worker though and an every down player. Should be a like for like replacement for Bunkley imo

thanks dont know how i missed him never even herd the name

JaMarcus Hustle

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Really working the starting defense with these picks and considering Bill could work with pretty much any offensive options, (well even at that you got Gronk, Hernandez and Welker.. oh and Brady) if they manage to work these guys into the team early then the Pats are going to be unreal next year.

Don't forget a certain Brandon Lloyd too

Such an exciting team for next year, I can't bloody wait.

spiralism

Bengals take Thompson. They've had some draft in fairness to them.

FreeOSCAR

Just for the record.
Stephen Hill will be a stud.

matthew8

The Ravens got Osemele. Can he play left guard?

HigginsJ

matthew8 wrote: »

The Ravens got Osemele. Can he play left guard?

No more a right guard with potential to play right tackle. Absolute monster of a man

HigginsJ

Do GM's, coaches etc. start to lose interest in the draft process?

I only ask as its difficult to explain the Pats taking a safety on-one has heard of, Falcons taking a tackle most ppl had in the 7th round/undrafted.

The Jags taking a punter in the 3rd, do they think 1 wide-out is all Gabbert needs, sure he wouldnt say no to another weapon/o-lineman, someone should tell the Jags to take a look at what the Colts are doing for Andrew luck.

Baffling some of the picks?

Not that high on Reuben Randle to the Giants. Think he is bit of a bust candidate but really like the pick of Jayron Hosley in the 3rd.

HigginsJ

Just going through last nights picks as fell asleep.

If your a Bengals man you must be delighted. Thats a cracking draft in my opinion. Maybe they could picked a running back but i'm sure they'll get one.

An already good yound D has really been made an awful lot better.

Sanu, Green and Gresham are exciting

Morrisseeee

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Grow up.

Hillman is a very good running back.

After watching his video he's doesn't look like a bad pick.
He's very agile, quick vision, well balanced and has a burst of speed to make short yardage.

DDC1990

Hard not to love the Bucs Draft.

I'd have preferred Claiborne to Barron, but at the end of the day you have serious potential at Saftey coming in, where the Bucs had nothing.

Martin gives the Bucs a 3 down back, who can catch and pass protect, while having the big gain potential in Blount as RB #2. If they work in unison, then we might have a Running game to worry teams into believing some play action plays unlike last year.

Finally Lavonte David upgrades our very weak LB corps, meaning the Bucs look more solid against the Run and Pass.

In these players the Bucs have got 3 starters from Day 1. Throught the Draft and FA, the Bucs have gotton better at WR, RB, G, CB, LB and S. Our young DL now have another year under their belts and we could see big things out of McCoy, Price, Clayborne and Bowers this year. They all have the potential. All 4 were 1st/2nd round picks.

Won't make playoffs this year but give this young team 1 more year and I think we can trouble the likes of Atlanta, NO and Carolina and come out on top of the NFC South once again.

spiralism

The more i check out Ronnie Hillman (admittedly didn't know a lot about him, hence thinking of it as a reach), the more i like the pick. Kinda fits the mold of the traditional Broncos RB, the 1 cut and run guy that makes fellas miss. More importantly, hes' a sproles-esque scat back threat, can't be any harm giving him to Manning! Worst job he's at least better than Moreno and nowhere near as expensive

Syferus

HigginsJ wrote: »

Do GM's, coaches etc. start to lose interest in the draft process?

I only ask as its difficult to explain the Pats taking a safety on-one has heard of, Falcons taking a tackle most ppl had in the 7th round/undrafted.

The Jags taking a punter in the 3rd, do they think 1 wide-out is all Gabbert needs, sure he wouldnt say no to another weapon/o-lineman, someone should tell the Jags to take a look at what the Colts are doing for Andrew luck.

Baffling some of the picks?

Not that high on Reuben Randle to the Giants. Think he is bit of a bust candidate but really like the pick of Jayron Hosley in the 3rd.

I think MJD, one of the best back-up RBs in the league in Rashad Jennings, Justin Blackmon, Mike Thomas in the slot, Laurent Robinson and Lee Evans as #2 or #3, or whatever suits, and Marcedes Lewis at tight end is more weapons than most QBs have. If Gabbert fails again it won't be because he hasn't anyone to give the ball to.

DDC1990

DDC1990 wrote: »

Hard not to love the Bucs Draft.

I'd have preferred Claiborne to Barron, but at the end of the day you have serious potential at Saftey coming in, where the Bucs had nothing.

Martin gives the Bucs a 3 down back, who can catch and pass protect, while having the big gain potential in Blount as RB #2. If they work in unison, then we might have a Running game to worry teams into believing some play action plays unlike last year.

Finally Lavonte David upgrades our very weak LB corps, meaning the Bucs look more solid against the Run and Pass.

In these players the Bucs have got 3 starters from Day 1. Throught the Draft and FA, the Bucs have gotton better at WR, RB, G, CB, LB and S. Our young DL now have another year under their belts and we could see big things out of McCoy, Price, Clayborne and Bowers this year. They all have the potential. All 4 were 1st/2nd round picks.

Won't make playoffs this year but give this young team 1 more year and I think we can trouble the likes of Atlanta, NO and Carolina and come out on top of the NFC South once again.

i wouldnt say that 2 years ago ye where the best young team in the league that talent didnt just disappear if talib is back i think ye are at least wildcard

DDC1990

Reuben Purring Tray wrote: »

i wouldnt say that 2 years ago ye where the best young team in the league that talent didnt just disappear if talib is back i think ye are at least wildcard

Im looking at the schedule as well.

2 vs Panthers, Saints, Falcons!!!

Have Redskins, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Broncos, Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers!

And the Rams and Vikings.

Could easily see a 2 win season only!

If I was being positive, I'd say wins against: Rams, Vikings, Chiefs, Panthers, Saints and Falcons (at Home) and 1 or 2 upsets (Cowboys or maybe Redskins with a Rookie QB early in the season)

A lot of the 10 win season was down to an easy schedule and a team that got confidence from a good run of early form. This year the Bucs start with Panthers who walked all over us last year, Giants SB champions, Cowboys who are strong all over the field and Redskins who may or may not have a Stud at QB. 0-4 start is a distinct possibilty, and we saw what happened last year when results started to slip away.

Anyway I'd rather be a pessimist and be surprised then an optimist and be disappointed like last season.

Go Bucs!

eagle eye

HigginsJ wrote: »

Do GM's, coaches etc. start to lose interest in the draft process?

I only ask as its difficult to explain the Pats taking a safety on-one has heard of, Falcons taking a tackle most ppl had in the 7th round/undrafted.

The Jags taking a punter in the 3rd, do they think 1 wide-out is all Gabbert needs, sure he wouldnt say no to another weapon/o-lineman, someone should tell the Jags to take a look at what the Colts are doing for Andrew luck.

Baffling some of the picks?

Not that high on Reuben Randle to the Giants. Think he is bit of a bust candidate but really like the pick of Jayron Hosley in the 3rd.

Randle is one thats very hard to project because LSU didn't throw the ball enough to get a good handle on just how good he can be. I like him I have to admit and think he could be a good one.

Only thing I can think of with the Pats pick is that they felt they had a real good one and were afraid they had competition for the pick. If they had had him very high on their board then I suppose you take the guy asap. If you rank him that highly then why gamble on losing him?

The lowest ranked player by draftniks was Derek Wolfe. He was ranked lower than Wilson by most.

I never even looked at what teams might want a punter. Certainly Anger was one of the best in recent years in college so its not a bad move if he can be that good in the NFL. Again like the Patriots pick, we would be guessing that you would get this guy much later. It may be a reach but we don't know for sure.

JaMarcus Hustle

Good article here by the always reliable Mike Reiss on why Wilson may have went as high as he did.

But others might look closer and learn that Wilson had seven teams that brought him in for visits (Buccaneers, Texans, Cardinals, Falcons, Colts, Ravens, Chargers), while Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio and director of college scouting Jon Robinson -- along with another club -- worked him out privately.

JaMarcus Hustle

Chris Givens is a very nice pick for St. Louis, as is Omar Bolden for Denver.

JaMarcus Hustle

Kirk Cousins to the Redskins!

Joe Adams to the Panthers, Cam will love him!

Utopia Parkway

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Good article here by the always reliable Mike Reiss on why Wilson may have went as high as he did.

Yeah it seems the Pats really liked what they saw in Tavon Wilson even though the draft analysts didn't seem to know anything about him. Still you have to think that the Pats would have been able to trade that pick for two 3rd or 4th round picks and still been able to nab Wilson much later. Maybe they couldn't find anyone to trade that pick with though?

I do like their Jake Bequette pick though. He didn't get much buzz heading into the draft but he racked up 10 sacks in the toughest conference in college football by far last season. And he missed 3 games. Typical Pats pick. A guy who can play DE and OLB.

HigginsJ

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Kirk Cousins to the Redskins!

Joe Adams to the Panthers, Cam will love him!

What the frack??? Why Redskins take a QB?

Silver-Tiger

We just drafted a WR that's shorter than me. Travis Benjamin. My christ he's fast. He offers speed that our others WRs don't. Good returner too. Looks one good hit from a career ending injury though.

spiralism

We draft Omar Bolden and Phil Blake with the fourth rounders. Love the picks, if Bolden can stay healthy he projects to be an excellent Nickel CB at the VERY least and Blake is right now probably better than Walton. Interestingly he was Walton's successor at Baylor.

JaMarcus Hustle

Devon Wylie to the Chiefs. So similar to Wes Welker.

eagle eye

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Yeah it seems the Pats really liked what they saw in Tavon Wilson even though the draft analysts didn't seem to know anything about him. Still you have to think that the Pats would have been able to trade that pick for two 3rd or 4th round picks and still been able to nab Wilson much later. Maybe they couldn't find anyone to trade that pick with though?

I do like their Jake Bequette pick though. He didn't get much buzz heading into the draft but he racked up 10 sacks in the toughest conference in college football by far last season. And he missed 3 games. Typical Pats pick. A guy who can play DE and OLB.

Well Belichick gave an insight into how players are rated during his presser. He said that he doesn't know who invites to the all-star games or the combine. Then he posed the question asking how Brandon Brooks(drafted by Texans in the 3rd) didn't get invited to the combine and how Vollmer(considered a reach a few years ago) didn't get invited.
He spoke about the stats from last year too. He said that defenses are getting spread out a lot more, he said that the Patriots spent over 50% of their snaps in nickel or dime formations last year. He said that Wilson played safety and then a lot of nickel and dime as well. He basically said without saying it that this guy was overlooked by whoever invites people to combines and all-star games.

JaMarcus Hustle

Bobby Massie FINALLY gets picked.

eagle eye

Belichick and McCarthy both had great offenses last season but the D let them down. Both the Packers and Patriots have made all defensive picks to this point. Packers have two comp picks at the end of this round. I fancy he goes for more DE/LBs there. I think the Packers want to have a lot of competiton and depth in those positions, the injuries really hurt them late last season.

mikemac1

Irrelevant fact of the day

Ravens now have two centers that have brothers which are NFL QB's
Cecil Newton, brother of Cam
Gino Gradowski, brother of Bruce

JaMarcus Hustle

Miles Burris is a Raider. Strangely happy about that, I think he's brilliant and was my favourite undervalued player in the whole draft. Can't wait to see him in action. Clay Matthews-esque dare I say.

deisedude

HigginsJ wrote: »

Just going through last nights picks as fell asleep.

If your a Bengals man you must be delighted. Thats a cracking draft in my opinion. Maybe they could picked a running back but i'm sure they'll get one.

An already good yound D has really been made an awful lot better.

Sanu, Green and Gresham are exciting

I'm over the moon. Filled a lot of gaps in the team

deisedude

spiralism wrote: »

Solid but unspectacular DT, was projected at the bottom of the second rather than the top. Hard worker though and an every down player. Should be a like for like replacement for Bunkley imo

I'm a Bearcat fan and I've seen a lot of Wolfe. Think he is a great pick for ye guys

spiralism

deisedude wrote: »

I'm a Bearcat fan and I've seen a lot of Wolfe. Think he is a great pick for ye guys

That's what i like to hear! Should at the very least cover for Bunkley. If we can manage to keep Ty Warren healthy, we're grand on the DL, especially with Malik Jackson now providing a bit more depth

JaMarcus Hustle

The Texans just drafted a kicker called Randy Bullock.

Call off the rest of the draft and lock this thread, they've clearly won the draft.

JaMarcus Hustle

Marvin Jones in the 5th round, the Bengals are just owning this draft. Jones is the 3rd best WR in the class after Floyd and Blackmon imo, amazing he lasted this long.

Edit: And the Raiders get Criner! He was my 5th best WR. Some great picks today, and the Ravens make yet another great pick with Asa Jackson too. They're on fire.

DDC1990

Why is Anfonzo Dennard still on the board? Is there serious character issues?

Im very surprised Asa Jackson went before him, if Baltimore considered CB a need.

Im crossing my fingers and hoping he falls 3 more spots to the Bucs.

Heffo001

DDC1990 wrote: »

Why is Anfonzo Dennard still on the board? Is there serious character issues?

Im very surprised Asa Jackson went before him, if Baltimore considered CB a need.

Im crossing my fingers and hoping he falls 3 more spots to the Bucs.

Last week he got arrested for fighting outside a bar and then hit a police officer. So it's fair to say he has some character issues.

JaMarcus Hustle

I really hope someone picks Ryan Lindley.

DDC1990

Yeah I forgot about that!

Still, Bucs DB's are no strangers to altercations. (Talib and Tanard Jackson)

Would love to see a CB of his quality come in.

EDIT: Ah well, Its a CB but Keith Tandy. I'd be lying if I said I knew anything about him.
Hope he can do a job.

HigginsJ

DDC1990 wrote: »

Why is Anfonzo Dennard still on the board? Is there serious character issues?

Im very surprised Asa Jackson went before him, if Baltimore considered CB a need.

Im crossing my fingers and hoping he falls 3 more spots to the Bucs.

Not sure saying he has red flags about his character does it justice.


Most people could get past the drugs but he was arrested for assaulting a police officer last week.

HigginsJ

Pats 2nd round safety Tayon Wilson's grandmother is 112.

Maybe BB see's Wilson as a long term solution to the safety positon

JaMarcus Hustle

So the Cardinals are the ones to take the infamous jumping Justin Bethel. Don't know what he's like as a player, but this is damn impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08RJgDJS8Dg

eagle eye

JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »

Marvin Jones in the 5th round, the Bengals are just owning this draft. Jones is the 3rd best WR in the class after Floyd and Blackmon imo, amazing he lasted this long.

Edit: And the Raiders get Criner! He was my 5th best WR. Some great picks today, and the Ravens make yet another great pick with Asa Jackson too. They're on fire.

I had Greg Childs as the most likely to be a big hit after the first two in the draft. Vikes got him with a compensatory at the end of the 4th.

eagle eye

HigginsJ wrote: »

Pats 2nd round safety Tayon Wilson's grandmother is 112.

Maybe BB see's Wilson as a long term solution to the safety positon

She raised him too, his father was shot when he was very young, his mother died when he was 12 I believe.

JaMarcus Hustle

Ryan Lindley picked by the Cardinals

Has a very good chance of being the eventual starter there. He completes my trio of San Diego State sleepers - Lindley, Hillman and Burris.

eagle eye

So we take Nate Ebner, a rugby player and special teams ace with the Buckeyes.

Interesting to see how this works out. He wasn't expected to be drafted up until his pro-day where he got noticed after some serious performances.

Ares

Justin10

I be surprised if Anfonzo Dennard Or Vontaze Burfict isnt picked soon.

The money they would get would have no affect against the cap if they got released.

mikemac1

Ebner looks good, fast and can tackle.
Good things will come from adding him to special teams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P94LZzurYM

Wondering now will anyone use a pick on Burfict
We'll know soon enough