Joint writing

mikemac1

Was reading a child's letter over in the Retro forum and it has me wondering

Is this still taught in schools?
I know I did it and we had a book where we wrote over the letters to practice.
And then we had multiple pages to write until we got it right.

So that's what I used, then I went to secondary school. My teachers didn't like it at all and I don't blame them.
So I switched to print and I write pretty much the same as the text here on the screen

Do schools still do joint writing?
Or has it been dismissed as a waste of time?
I know my parents still use it but nowadays is there much point?



I'm interested to know, feeling nostalgic

endacl

mikemac1 wrote: »

Was reading a child's letter over in the Retro forum and it has me wondering

Is this still taught in schools?
I know I did it and we had a book where we wrote over the letters to practice.
And then we had multiple pages to write until we got it right.

So that's what I used, then I went to secondary school. My teachers didn't like it at all and I don't blame them.
So I switched to print and I write pretty much the same as the text here on the screen

Do schools still do joint writing?
Or has it been dismissed as a waste of time?
I know my parents still use it but nowadays is there much point?



I'm interested to know, feeling nostalgic

Never used joint writing. Joined writing on the other hand....

cichlid child

Thay still teach it in schools.My son got into trouble for not doing homework in joined writing.He is aged 10

mikemac1

endacl wrote: »

Never used joint writing. Joined writing on the other hand....

Well now, I was expecting a response like that and I was unsure over the spelling

So before I posted I looked it up

Cursive, also known as joined-up writing, joint writing, linking, or running writing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursive

If it's on the internet it must be true :cool:

Anything else to contribute to the thread?

byhookorbycrook

We teach it at school and insist children use it from 2nd up. It helps with speed and fluency and can actually also help with spelling.

Stroke Politics

In France, the children are taught joined writing from the very start of school, in the equivalent of Junior Infants. I would agree with this, the initial emphasis here is letter formation and teaching children how to print. Then when they get to late 2nd class, they are told ditch what you have learned, and start using cursive/joined writing, you are learning how to write again!

When I was training to be a teacher, one of the best lectures that I had believed that spelling is a form of writing, and he believed that teaching children how to write cursively helped spelling as the child begins to recognise if a word looks right or wrong. There are a few schools around the country who start cursive writing in Infants classes, but there are very rare, I know of only one in Co Meath. I would encourage more schools to use cursive writing from the very beginning for these reasons....

mikemac1

Many abandon it though when they start secondary, wasn't just me, lots did

I co-sign documents in work and nobody uses it apart from the older people.

However I didn't realize there was a reason behind it. I figured it was just learning to write sentences and letters but it seems there is more behind it. So an interesting thread

Just seems natural to me that I see clear printed text everywhere like boards.ie for example and that's how I write

byhookorbycrook

We had an few in-service days from spelling guru Brendan Culligan,a strong advocate for joining from the start. We are thinking about it at the moment.

bbam

They still teach it here too, my DD is in 3rd class and just starting although she's been working on it at home herself for a while...

I on the other hand was deemed too poor with the pencil to be taught joined writhing at school... probably because the junior/senior teacher beat the crap outta me for writing with my left hand :rolleyes:

byhookorbycrook

bbam wrote: »

I on the other hand was deemed too poor with the pencil to be taught joined writhing at school... probably because the junior/senior teacher beat the crap outta me for writing with my left hand :rolleyes:

You and me both, I had my hand tied to the back of the old kind of desks and was slapped on both sides of my face until I took the pencil in my right hand(at the age of 3 1/2)

I think 3rd is too late, children write more and some find it easier to revert to print for a bit and try to avoid joining.

Stroke Politics

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

We had an few in-service days from spelling guru Brendan Culligan,a strong advocate for joining from the start. We are thinking about it at the moment.

The very man. He had a lady from Mary I(?) give a presentation on starting cursive writing early on a summer course summer course I was on, will try to dig up a few links....

13spanner

I was taught joined in 2nd class but stopped as soon as I could. Being left handed, I used to smudge the words if the pen was the smallest bit ''inky''. Now I'm in 6th year. I write in print and whenever we have a guest speaker in, I get the job of writing the ''thank you'' letter. Not too shabby

ShamoBuc

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

You and me both, I had my hand tied to the back of the old kind of desks and was slapped on both sides of my face until I took the pencil in my right hand(at the age of 3 1/2)
.

lol - I can write just as well ( or as poorly)with both hands -because the Christian Brothers 'stopped' me writing with my left hand - from about 5
years of age onwards. As you can imagine, they were very persuasive!

We start teaching joined in the second half of second class.

byhookorbycrook

Berol handwriting pens are great for us lefties.They don't smudge and make even my writing look better.:D
http://www.cultpens.com/acatalog/Berol-Handwriting-Pen.html

thesimpsons

love to see nice script handwriting but its becoming a thing of the past from what I can see. all my kids left primary school with lovely script but once they had to take down reams and reams of notes or write pages and pages of history and english answers in secondary school, the script became too raggy and illegible so they opted to go back to printing. Same thing happened to most of my family and friends when we went into secondary too. I had a lovely script (both left and right handed too) and tried hard to get it back again a few years ago but find myself drifting back to print if I don't think about it.