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Money for Maps

  • 04-01-2012 11:30am
    #1
    westcoast66
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭


    I wonder if someone could give me some advice here and sorry in advance for the stupid questions!

    We are thinking of buying 25 acres that adjoins our house. We are not farmers.

    A nieghbouring farmer has stated that they would 'Pay us for the maps'.

    Could someone explain in laymens terms what he means and also, is it legal?

    Would we be forfeiting our rights for something in the future?

    Thanks in advance!


Comments

  • #2
    jack77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭jack77


    I assume he wants you to get the maps and he'll pay for them, even if you dont go ahead and buy, land registery maps etc. and before any1 says it, i know the saying, assumptions are the mother of all f***ups!


  • #3
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    I think he means that he will use your maps to submit for Disadvantaged Area Payments


  • #4
    westcoast66
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭westcoast66


    Where do I get these maps? And how do I know someone else isnt using them already? - Thanks!


  • #5
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    westcoast66 wrote: »
    Where do I get these maps? And how do I know someone else isnt using them already? - Thanks!

    Whoever owns the land owns the maps. What your neighbour is saying is that he will pay you for to be allowed to use your maps (He may or may not want to use your land). This way, he will be able to claim extra subsidies because on paper he will have extra land.

    I assume that you don't intend farming the land or keeping animals on it?


  • #6
    westcoast66
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭westcoast66


    reilig wrote: »
    Whoever owns the land owns the maps. What your neighbour is saying is that he will pay you for to be allowed to use your maps (He may or may not want to use your land). This way, he will be able to claim extra subsidies because on paper he will have extra land.

    Is this legal? I will probably be using the land myself (for non farming activities).


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  • #7
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    westcoast66 wrote: »
    Is this legal?

    That's a good question. I don't know the legalities of it!


  • #8
    nilhg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭nilhg


    reilig wrote: »
    That's a good question. I don't know the legalities of it!

    It's not legal to submit land on your SFP application that you aren't farming in the year in question, how it's policed (or more often than not isn't) is the reason that people chance it and often get away with it, but if for example you were inspected and stock belonging to someone else was found on the extra land then you'd be in the s**t.


  • #9
    JohnBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Some people also want the maps to increase their farm area relative to their stock levels to allow for a high stocking density without a nitrates derogation.



    Dont know if it's actually against the law, but it is against department of agriculture rules and would involve penalties to both parties if found out.

    if you're not receiving any payments from the department of agriculture then I'm not sure what they can actually do to you though as their normal penalties are a percentage deduction from your subsidy payments.


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