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W.W Greener Restoration??

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  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    pics.. sorry they are so big
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    Do you think the stock is original to the gun? What length are the barrels?
    Try taking photos outdoors as natural light is more forgiving.
    Any marks on the action flats and barrel's ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    Id say its original as the day is long. checkering is well worn from handling and it has an old style straight grip english stock..
    Action flats have proof marks for each barrel and a mark saying W.W. Greener pattented Stamped around the locking mechanisim hole.

    Barrels have the capital b primary proof marks, And what appear to be birmingham nitro proof markings Twice on each barrel.
    And the birmingham gun makers view mark on each barrel..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    Bob
    Excellent. When you send photos to Greener's pic's of the marks would be helpful.
    Check that all SN# match, barrels, receiver, forend etc.
    The photos are not to big BTW. :D
    You may not have a shooter but you surely have a keeper, and definitely an heirloom.
    Good luck with the strikers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    All the numbers match.. the fore end ones are engraved into the wood twice on each side of the latching mechanism. kinda unusual.. There is a slight split in the wood but i think it would be worth leaving as is just not to loose the numbers.. Maybe get it repaired by a specialist like Mr Sludds..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    I would wait and see what Graham Greener has to say, he may be the way to go, depending on rarity.
    Pat is a stock man.
    I think Moby mentioned he had a good experience with Pat O Brien in Bray.
    Peter McGee in Newport is well qualified and has an excellent reputation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    Yea its probably a good idea goin through Greeners.. They asked for a comprehensive picture album to be sent by cd to them so the plan is to get cracking on that tomorrow.. Call goin in to the gun smiths first thing too, ;) Thanks for the help DB.. Ill keep you posted on progress..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    hrcbob,

    It is difficult to tell for sure but I think your barrels pattern look, or would look, like this set that have being redone.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    the spirals arent that visible due to a bit of light rust and i didnt want to clean it with anything more abrasive than an oily rag incase it would take off the markings.. They are only visible for about 3 inches after the chambers one one side.,. Pretty similar but i always thought each barrel was almost unique due to how they are forged???


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    The pattern can be repeated because a billet is formed consisting of sheets of iron and steel arranged to form a pattern which is welded, twisted and wrapped around a mandrel to form a barrel. Several barrels can be made from a billet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭hrcbob


    Little update.. Firing pins are gone.. Not to be recovered gone.. :mad: Its looking like its going to be a trip across the water for it to see what the verdict is from either greeners or another damascus specialist..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    hrcbob wrote: »
    Thanks for The replies lads.. I think it will def need new barrels as they are dinged and badly pitted inside.. Shame realy as its a gorgeous piece of kit.
    Pitting can be taken out by honing the barrels leaving them highly polished. They can get rid of dints by placing some sort of an insert inside the barrel while its tapped with a brass hammer. Here's videos i found worth a look so things may be looking positive for you :)

    http://youtu.be/wXQb2QoMJPo
    http://youtu.be/b_x3hQHtdtI


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭4200fps


    The pattern can be repeated because a billet is formed consisting of sheets of iron and steel arranged to form a pattern which is welded, twisted and wrapped around a mandrel to form a barrel. Several barrels can be made from a billet.
    You love your side by sides like myself Double Barrel lol. If that's your s/s in the pictures on this thread i love it


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