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Australian Skilled Migration Visa - Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 nobodyspecial


    Hi all,

    quick question, sorry if it's been covered here before: if you get permanent residency through the skilled migrant visa class, as say a plumber, when you arrive can you just get a job as something else? You see the reason I am asking is that as a time served plumber that is fully qualified to do domestic and commercial gas over here I believe that once I arrive in OZ my qualifications count for diddly squat ( had the same thing in new zealand, had to work "supervised" by a guy that had not a clue what he was doing) - is this assumption correct?

    I fully accept that it is not going to be easy to be a plumber over there so am more than happy to diversify and do something else if that is permitted.

    Thanks in advance for any info/advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭irishmover


    It's one of the most common questions on here. Once you're a PR you can work in any discipline in any state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 nobodyspecial


    irishmover wrote: »
    It's one of the most common questions on here. Once you're a PR you can work in any discipline in any state.

    Thanks for the response, so essentially get the visa through current skill set and get any job that pays the same or better and cut out all the hassle of trying to be a plumber there?!?!? Seems odd, but as I say, after living/working in NZ I was expecting it. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Thanks for the response, so essentially get the visa through current skill set and get any job that pays the same or better and cut out all the hassle of trying to be a plumber there?!?!? Seems odd, but as I say, after living/working in NZ I was expecting it. :)

    Yup. Pass the skills assessment and the rigmarole of getting the visa and then you're free to do as you wish. Apart from anything illegal ofcourse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Not for Long


    Hi all,

    Just got the IELTS results I was after- it took two attempts [didn’t reach my mark by 0.5 first time]. My advice to others would be to focus on specific study material as there is a lot out there and its easy misinterpret exactly what they are after. For the listening, reading & speaking I used nothing but past papers for practice and found this to be effective. For the writing they are after a particular format [my creative writing style didn’t cut it the first time:] - I found this website the best for guidance on this.

    http://ielts-simon.com/ielts-help-and-english-pr/ielts-general-writing/

    As long as you focus on this and ignore the tonnes of stuff on the Internet it should be alright, as an English speaker, to get what you need.

    Also, I am now looking for a migrant agent to process my skilled migrant visa and am in the process of getting some quotes. If anyone can recommend some agents it would be much appreciated? - My case is relative straight forward and I’ll probably go with whoever I feel most comfortable with. One other question- if I fail my skills assessment can i cut my losses at that stage in the application or is the agent paid in a lump sum? I imagine it is a series of staged payments but I just want to confirm this is the case? im sure people have been declined this visa in the past and i want to weigh up the risks.

    Is there a ballpark figure for the cost of a skilled migrant visa application [including agent fees]? I know it’s not going to be cheap but just want to make sure I don’t get fleeced! Also, Ive heard processing times range from a few weeks up to 12 months??

    Any advice is much appreciated...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,235 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    One other question- if I fail my skills assessment can i cut my losses at that stage in the application or is the agent paid in a lump sum? I imagine it is a series of staged payments but I just want to confirm this is the case? im sure people have been declined this visa in the past and i want to weigh up the risks.

    The skills assessment is a separate process, you can do it do before you apply for the visa, and before you hire an agent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Not for Long


    thanks for that!

    Ive been quoted $6000 AUD [agents fee only]... $2000 for each part of the application...

    Might have to do the skill assess myself and save $2000- does the Agent really do any more then just put the paperwork through? I wouldnt mind if there was a distinct advantage of using the agent for the skill assess but there doesnt seem much point in me handing over the paperwork and then the agent simply passes it over to be assessed?

    Any thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 johnkerry


    Where did you get past papers? I can find any


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 birthmother


    We are in the process for applying for a PR, we have done the skills access ourselves. We were sent it to the ACS for an I.T. accessment.It was very straight forward you just need all your qualifications, passport and letter from employer detailing the work you do. All the information is on their website and how to apply. It can take up to eight weeks and costs $450 AD. Better then €2000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭tower08


    Hi Guys, I just a few questions..

    I was on a 457 up until last week when I got made redundant from the engineering company I was working for.

    They are letting DIAC know this Friday so I will have 28 days from then to find a new employer willing to take over my 457 sponsorship, correct? I have heard they extend this if you can show that you are actively looking for another employer?

    I have been looking into PR, for me I think I would have to go for subclass 190 rather that the 189 so that I would have enough points to apply.

    How much does this cost through an agent and what time scale would it be from applying for a skills assessment? Would I be placed on a bridging visa where I would be unable to work until a decision had been made?

    If you go through an agent do you still pay in full even if the visa application is unsuccessful?

    Also in the points system, can you only use one of you qualifications for points? For example I have a Beng Hons degree in mechanical engineering as well as a bachelor in manufacturing engineering, can i only select one of these for points?

    Another quick one, in these 28 days i have to find a new sponsor am i eligible to work for example a recruitment agency laboring just to keep some money coming in?

    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    tower08 wrote: »
    Hi Guys, I just a few questions..

    I was on a 457 up until last week when I got made redundant from the engineering company I was working for.

    They are letting DIAC know this Friday so I will have 28 days from then to find a new employer willing to take over my 457 sponsorship, correct? I have heard they extend this if you can show that you are actively looking for another employer?

    I have heard that DIAC a flexible enough on this if they believe you have a good a good chance of find a job ie. you have an occupation in demand.
    tower08 wrote: »

    I have been looking into PR, for me I think I would have to go for subclass 190 rather that the 189 so that I would have enough points to apply.

    How much does this cost through an agent and what time scale would it be from applying for a skills assessment? Would I be placed on a bridging visa where I would be unable to work until a decision had been made?

    You can get a bridging visa for a 189 or 190 if lodge an application, you can only lodge an application if you have been invited.

    1, Get skills assessment, IELTS, etc
    2, Register your Expression of Instrest.
    3, Wait for invite
    4, Once invited lodge and pay for application. At this point you get a bridging visa.

    tower08 wrote: »



    If you go through an agent do you still pay in full even if the visa application is unsuccessful?


    You pay the VAC (Visa application charge) in full, no refunds if you are unsuccessful DIAC keep your $3000.

    Agents make their own rules, maybe get one with a No Success No fee or only keep 50%.

    Any MARA agent worth their salt won't take you on unless you have a chance of success, but if you fail for some unforeseen reason ie. medical reason then they still did the work for you and earned your fee.





    tower08 wrote: »

    Also in the points system, can you only use one of you qualifications for points? For example I have a Beng Hons degree in mechanical engineering as well as a bachelor in manufacturing engineering, can i only select one of these for points?

    You would pick either the one of most value or the one most suited to your occupation/Experience.

    tower08 wrote: »

    Another quick one, in these 28 days i have to find a new sponsor am i eligible to work for example a recruitment agency laboring just to keep some money coming in?

    You can only work for your 457 sponsor, that's why employers by law have to pay for your flights home as you are your ex-employers obligation if you work for someone else like an agency they could claim your new employer is responsible.

    You have to wait until a new 457 nomination is approved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭tower08


    Thanks for the response madrake, much appreciated!
    mandrake04 wrote: »
    I have heard that DIAC a flexible enough on this if they believe you have a good a good chance of find a job ie. you have an occupation in demand.



    You can get a bridging visa for a 189 or 190 if lodge an application, you can only lodge an application if you have been invited.

    1, Get skills assessment, IELTS, etc
    2, Register your Expression of Instrest.
    3, Wait for invite
    4, Once invited lodge and pay for application. At this point you get a bridging visa.

    On this bridging visa would i be entitled to work?

    If not would I be better off living cheap in Asia or flying home until I get an answer on visa application etc. or does it make a difference to the application that I am currently residing in Australia?


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    You can only work for your 457 sponsor, that's why employers by law have to pay for your flights home as you are your ex-employers obligation if you work for someone else like an agency they could claim your new employer is responsible.

    You have to wait until a new 457 nomination is approved.

    I was not aware that my employer would be obliged to pay for my flights home if I failed to get another sponsor.. Thanks, I must do some more research on that..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,235 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    tower08 wrote: »
    On this bridging visa would i be entitled to work?
    I would imagine so. There are different bridging visas, so worst case scenario you are put on a Bridging visa E where you can't work. you be able to apply for separate work permission, once you have proof that you needed to work to survive, then it would be granted. Takes 5 mins. In my experience, a bank statement, and proof of rent was all that was required. If you have 30k or similar in the bank, they might not agree that you need to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    tower08 wrote: »
    Thanks for the response madrake, much appreciated!



    On this bridging visa would i be entitled to work?


    Applying for Bridge between one substantive visa to another substantive visa is usually Bridging visa A

    You have the same work rights as the substantive visa you are on, unfortunately that visa is a 457 and you are restricted to work for your sponsoring employer only.

    But like Mellor says you can apply for unlimited permission to work, but it is DIACs discretion.
    Permission to work
    Generally, the holder of a Bridging visa A, B, C, or E with work
    restrictions can apply on form 1005 Application for a bridging
    visa for another bridging visa with unlimited permission to
    work. To be eligible, you need to demonstrate a ‘compelling
    need to work’, that is:
    • you are in financial hardship; or
    • you have been nominated or sponsored by an employer for
    a substantive visa on skills grounds, and appear to meet the
    requirements for the visa.

    Its all here on http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1024i.pdf

    But to get that bridging visa you need to make a valid Lodgement, you can only do that if you have successfully registered a EOI and been invited to apply.

    Depending on your occupation, the occupation ceiling and your points will determine how long you wait for an invite.


    tower08 wrote: »

    I was not aware that my employer would be obliged to pay for my flights home if I failed to get another sponsor.. Thanks, I must do some more research on that..

    Its explained in Booklet 9
    Obligation to pay travel costs to enable sponsored persons to leave Australia
    Sponsors must pay reasonable and necessary travel costs to enable their sponsored workers and their
    family members to leave Australia. This is required providing the costs have been requested in writing by
    the sponsored worker or their family member or the department on their behalf, and the costs have not
    already been paid by the sponsor in accordance with this obligation.
    The costs will be considered reasonable and necessary provided they:
    • include travel from the sponsored persons’ usual place of residence in Australia to the place of
    departure from Australia
    • include travel from Australia to the country (for which the person holds a passport) specified in the
    request to pay travel costs
    • are paid within 30 days of receiving the request, and
    • are for economy class air travel or, where unavailable, a reasonable equivalent.
    How long does this obligation apply for?
    This obligation starts to apply on the day the primary sponsored person is granted a subclass 457 visa,
    unless he or she already holds a subclass 457 visa in which case the obligation starts to apply on the day
    the nomination for the primary sponsored person is approved.Part X – Chapter heading
    16 Temporary Work
    This obligation ends on the earliest of the day:
    • on which a nomination by another sponsor in relation to the primary sponsored person is approved
    • on which the sponsored person is granted a further substantive visa (other than a subclass 457 visa).
    If the primary sponsored person is granted another subclass 457 visa to continue to work for the
    sponsor, the obligation continues, or
    • the sponsored person has left Australia and no longer holds a visa.
    This obligation applies to primary and secondary sponsored persons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Bundy2013


    Hello,
    Great thread - I've been reading it for the best part of a week and looking up things as I go along! Lots of info!

    I still have a few questions and wondering if anyone could help me. My partner and I wish to move to Australia, preferably WA, but open to anything really. I am 30 and can still get my WHV if needed and I'm a part qualified accountant. My partner is 34 and an electrician. He has been applying for jobs and trying to secure a sponsor but it is proving very difficult. He even went out to South Australia last year and did a Peer VEET Grade A Wiring Regulations course and has a certificate for that.

    1. Which Visa? Some people have suggested that maybe I go out on a WHV, try get sponsored and he could come defacto but really we would prefer to go together is possible. So my first question is what is the main difference between 189 visa and 190 visa and which one should we be going for. I see a lot of people talking about the 190 visa on this thread and see that the 190 visa is nominated by state or territory and 189 is not... What exactly does this mean and would anyone have any advice which one my partner should be aiming for??

    2. Skills Assessment. As electrician is on the SOL, it says he has to be assessed by TRA. This is in addition to the Peer VEET he already did yes?? And this can be done through Victoria University?

    3. Work Experience. My partner had his own electrician business with his brother for 6/7 years after his apprenticeship. They wrapped this up in 2010 due to lack of work and he only does the odd job and nixer since then. He works mainly in the family pub. So he wouldn't have solid electrician experience or Tax Returns for electrical work in the last three years. Will this be a problem?

    I am sorry if any of this has been covered or if I am asking on the right thread. Any information anyone could give would be greatly appreciated!!

    Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭DeclanClune


    Bundy2013 wrote: »
    Hello,
    Great thread - I've been reading it for the best part of a week and looking up things as I go along! Lots of info!

    I still have a few questions and wondering if anyone could help me. My partner and I wish to move to Australia, preferably WA, but open to anything really. I am 30 and can still get my WHV if needed and I'm a part qualified accountant. My partner is 34 and an electrician. He has been applying for jobs and trying to secure a sponsor but it is proving very difficult. He even went out to South Australia last year and did a Peer VEET Grade A Wiring Regulations course and has a certificate for that.

    1. Which Visa? Some people have suggested that maybe I go out on a WHV, try get sponsored and he could come defacto but really we would prefer to go together is possible. So my first question is what is the main difference between 189 visa and 190 visa and which one should we be going for. I see a lot of people talking about the 190 visa on this thread and see that the 190 visa is nominated by state or territory and 189 is not... What exactly does this mean and would anyone have any advice which one my partner should be aiming for??


    2. Skills Assessment. As electrician is on the SOL, it says he has to be assessed by TRA. This is in addition to the Peer VEET he already did yes?? And this can be done through Victoria University?


    3. Work Experience. My partner had his own electrician business with his brother for 6/7 years after his apprenticeship. They wrapped this up in 2010 due to lack of work and he only does the odd job and nixer since then. He works mainly in the family pub. So he wouldn't have solid electrician experience or Tax Returns for electrical work in the last three years. Will this be a problem?

    I am sorry if any of this has been covered or if I am asking on the right thread. Any information anyone could give would be greatly appreciated!!

    Thank you

    I still have a few questions and wondering if anyone could help me. My partner and I wish to move to Australia, preferably WA, but open to anything really. I am 30 and can still get my WHV if needed and I'm a part qualified accountant. My partner is 34 and an electrician. He has been applying for jobs and trying to secure a sponsor but it is proving very difficult. He even went out to South Australia last year and did a Peer VEET Grade A Wiring Regulations course and has a certificate for that.

    1. Which Visa? Some people have suggested that maybe I go out on a WHV, try get sponsored and he could come defacto but really we would prefer to go together is possible. So my first question is what is the main difference between 189 visa and 190 visa and which one should we be going for. I see a lot of people talking about the 190 visa on this thread and see that the 190 visa is nominated by state or territory and 189 is not... What exactly does this mean and would anyone have any advice which one my partner should be aiming for??

    189 is independent skilled migration visa - not tied to a state. The 190 state sponsored migration visa is where you are sponasored by a state. Both give you permanent residency.
    You get points for state sponsorship towards your overall points total.
    The 190 visa requires that you live and work in that state for the first 2 years.

    2. Skills Assessment. As electrician is on the SOL, it says he has to be assessed by TRA. This is in addition to the Peer VEET he already did yes?? And this can be done through Victoria University?

    TRA is the overall assessing body, but within this Vetassess or Vic Uni or Future Skills are the options.


    3. Work Experience. My partner had his own electrician business with his brother for 6/7 years after his apprenticeship. They wrapped this up in 2010 due to lack of work and he only does the odd job and nixer since then. He works mainly in the family pub. So he wouldn't have solid electrician experience or Tax Returns for electrical work in the last three years. Will this be a problem?

    Yes this could be a problem
    You do not have to meet a minimum number of years experience for your visa application but in order to get points for work experience not working since 2010 may go against him. A proper assessment of your criteria should be carried out before you go any further with this visa application. You need to ensure that you are eligible.


    Regards,
    Declan Clune


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Dallan2000


    Hi guys, I know my post isn't really beneficial to the topic in question but I really need some advice.

    Very very long story short: I am married to an Australian woman however we have separated (not legally) over a year ago. We have a 3 yr old girl and we have decided to move to Australia as she is very homesick and I don't have much to keep me here.

    The problem is that although we are technically still married and could attempt to obtain a spousal visa we have both decided that this is not the best approach. I have no formal qualifications but have been a general manager of bars and clubs for almost 10 years (im 29).

    does anyone know where i can start looking (aside from the obvious- immi etc to obtain any type of permanent residency visa as as it stands my wife is taking me to court to get permission to remove my daughter from Ireland and doesn't really care if i come or not, I won the case against her in the family court but she will persist through all courts in order to get the permission to go back to oz with my daughter and i need to be prepared in case that happens

    This may sound selfish but there is no way I am letting my daughter leave this country without me but I have agreed to move to Australia if I can qualify for a visa.

    Any help off anyone would be greatly appreciated :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 imagine_08


    Hi lads & Ladies

    I hope someone can help me with this query.

    I am currently sponsored by my company on a 457 Visa. I am keen to get permanant residency sorted as soon as possible. I have been told that it may be possible for me to apply for a 186 Visa so that I wont have to do the 2 years with my current employer before applying. Is this something that can be done?

    I am not too keen about working with this current company. I am with them for 8 months now and I am based in Melbourne.

    If anyone can give me some advice about this, i'd be very grateful.

    Thanks guys

    Sean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Traq


    457 Visa to Sponsorship...

    It's been covered on here a few times already - and probably a lot better than I'm about to do - but for what it's worth:

    You can apply for a 186 visa at any time - the two year requirement just determines what stream you enter into. If you're with your employer over two years on a 457 then this means that you don't have to get a skills assessment as immigration take it that your skills have already been proven, and this is termed the "temporary residence transition stream". If you're with your employer under two years on a 457 then you need a positive skills assessment from whoever your assessing body may be, which is the "direct entry stream".

    If you are going the 186 visa route, your employer will ultimately need to sign off on this, so it's not something you can apply for just by yourself, however once the visa is granted you will immediately have permanent residency and will not be tied to your employer.

    If you don't want your employer involved at all, and would prefer to do it all independently, then you'll have to go through the whole SkillSelect Expression of Interest route for residency.

    Hope that helps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 imagine_08


    Great stuff. Thanks a million for that. Ill have to look into it a bit further. Im not a tradesman so not sure if I need a skills assessment done? Im currently working in Insurance. Ill check the rest of the thread for more info. Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Traq


    Yep, doesn't matter if you're a tradesman or work in IT/insurance/whatever, if you don't meet the two year work requirement then you need to provide a positive skills assessment in your nominated occupation and provide evidence of at least three years of relevant work experience.

    To find out who does the skills assessment for your particular position, you'd have to find your occupation here http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/ and the details for that occupation will tell you who the assessing body is, e.g. for insurance agent it's listed as vetassess (http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/occupations/i/insurance-agent.htm)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,235 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    imagine_08 wrote: »
    Great stuff. Thanks a million for that. Ill have to look into it a bit further. Im not a tradesman so not sure if I need a skills assessment done? Im currently working in Insurance. Ill check the rest of the thread for more info. Thanks again

    A skills assessment is nothing to do with being a tradesman.
    Its to prove you are qualified in the occupation under which you apply. Otherwise anyone could stick down an in demand job on the application.

    You only skip the skills assessment (on a 189 visa only) if you spend two years with the nomination company while on a 457 visa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 imagine_08


    Thanks guys. That information is a massive help. Do you have any idea of the costs involved? I will be going the application myself and not through an agent.

    Also so the process is that I get my skills assessed by the relevant body, Empoyer applys for the nomination then I apply? Is the right? Is there an extra cost for my employer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,235 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    imagine_08 wrote: »
    Thanks guys. That information is a massive help. Do you have any idea of the costs involved? I will be going the application myself and not through an agent.


    Also so the process is that I get my skills assessed by the relevant body, Empoyer applys for the nomination then I apply? Is the right? Is there an extra cost for my employer?

    That's more or else the order.
    The visa costs just over $3k, the employers nomination is $550 or so.
    Plus then what ever a skills assessment costs, will vary depending on assessing body.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭DeclanClune


    imagine_08 wrote: »
    Great stuff. Thanks a million for that. Ill have to look into it a bit further. Im not a tradesman so not sure if I need a skills assessment done? Im currently working in Insurance. Ill check the rest of the thread for more info. Thanks again

    Hi Sean,

    If you are applying for residency then you can consider:

    Applying under your employer - require a 2 year job offer from your employer.
    - Employer Nomination Scheme - 186 - You are expected to remain working with your employer for the term of the job but if circumstances change, you can switch employer
    - Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme - 187 You are obligated to remain working with your employer for the term of the job offer otherwise the visa could be cancelled.

    Applying under state approval - requires you to live and work in your occupation in your nominated state for the first 2 years
    - State sponsored migration visa - 190

    Applying independently - free to live and work anywhere across Australia in your occupation.
    - Independent skilled migration visa - 189

    Under all visa options above - you are required to have your skills assessed regardless of your occupation (unless you have worked in your occupation for 2 years in Australia and the most recent 12 months are with the sponsoring employer).

    It is hard to give accurate processing timeframes but the visas listed above are ranked in order of highest processing priority with Immigration.

    Note also that under the state and independent options you MAY need to sit an English language test to get points for your English language ability - as these visa routes are points based.

    Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other qs.

    Declan Clune


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 birthmother


    Hi Declan,

    I'm looking for some information, would it be possoble to pm you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Anyone can PM anyone. Its a side effect of being a Boardsie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 oreilly09


    Hi there,

    I am hoping someone could answer my query. Thanks in advance.

    I have an uncle who is a Aussie citizen. Speaking to him on Skype the other day he suggested that I look into whether or not he can sponsor me. I've studied the relevant website and its appears he can if my occupation is on the skilled migrant list. I noticed solicitor and barrister is on the list. Although I am neither I do have a degree and masters in law. Does this make me eligible or is it irrelevant?

    Please note I eligible for the WHV and will go on this initially. Although I am a little concerned that it restricts me from working for an employer for more than 6 months.

    On a side note - my father was recently granted aussie residency but from our understanding it counts for little as I am 27- is this correct. Once again thanks in advance :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭FernandoTorres


    You'd need to be a qualified solicitor/barrister I'd imagine and have a certain amount of experience working as one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 oreilly09


    cheers torres.........ya i was hoping that wasn't the case but alas! immigration just isnt straight forward eh! cheers again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭DeclanClune


    oreilly09 wrote: »
    Hi there,

    I am hoping someone could answer my query. Thanks in advance.

    I have an uncle who is a Aussie citizen. Speaking to him on Skype the other day he suggested that I look into whether or not he can sponsor me. I've studied the relevant website and its appears he can if my occupation is on the skilled migrant list. I noticed solicitor and barrister is on the list. Although I am neither I do have a degree and masters in law. Does this make me eligible or is it irrelevant?

    Please note I eligible for the WHV and will go on this initially. Although I am a little concerned that it restricts me from working for an employer for more than 6 months.

    On a side note - my father was recently granted aussie residency but from our understanding it counts for little as I am 27- is this correct. Once again thanks in advance :-)

    Q1
    Irrelevant - as already advised - you need to be qualified and in order to build up your points - your would need relevant work experience too.

    Q2
    You will find casual work but if you find something on the CSOL list - then the 457 sponsorship visa might be an option if you are lucky enough to find an employer that is willing to sponsor you.

    Q3
    You are deemed to be independent of your father so you need to be eligible for a visa in your own right. If he has citizenship then there might be a chance - but that would be in a few years before he could apply for that.

    Regards
    Declan Clune


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 oreilly09


    Hi Declan,

    Thanks for that. It appears the WHV is my only option ! The six month restriction is a bit of a worry but hey thats how it is........up to me to impress the employer. Thanks again.
    Kind Regards
    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Operator


    Just thought I would update an earlier post: as I previously stated my wife and I are both Gardai, obviously not on the sol, however my wife has a degree in Geography and Economics, so we decided to chance getting the degree assessed by vetassess under the occupation of Cartographer. The time line was:

    Application and payment made 10/01/13
    Documents recieved 31/01/13
    Assesment date 09//04/13
    Points test advisory letter recieved today, 16/04/13

    The qualification is recognised as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree. (15 Points)
    We are within the 30-32 age bracket (30 Points)

    DeclanClune and others kindly advised me previously that the 12 month work requirement has ceased to exist, I wonder could anybody warn me of any other difficulities I could encounter before commiting anymore financially. Or does anybody have any advice on continuing with the process?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭DeclanClune


    Operator wrote: »
    Just thought I would update an earlier post: as I previously stated my wife and I are both Gardai, obviously not on the sol, however my wife has a degree in Geography and Economics, so we decided to chance getting the degree assessed by vetassess under the occupation of Cartographer. The time line was:

    Application and payment made 10/01/13
    Documents recieved 31/01/13
    Assesment date 09//04/13
    Points test advisory letter recieved today, 16/04/13

    The qualification is recognised as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree. (15 Points)
    We are within the 30-32 age bracket (30 Points)

    DeclanClune and others kindly advised me previously that the 12 month work requirement has ceased to exist, I wonder could anybody warn me of any other difficulities I could encounter before commiting anymore financially. Or does anybody have any advice on continuing with the process?


    Hi Operator,

    Assuming that you are applying for either the 189 or 190 visa, they are points based so you need to ensure that you will meet the points requirements. Does your partner have work experience as a cartographer? If not, then may be looking at sitting the English language test also.

    My advice on this - do practice runs.

    Regards,
    Declan Clune


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Operator


    Hi Operator,

    Assuming that you are applying for either the 189 or 190 visa, they are points based so you need to ensure that you will meet the points requirements. Does your partner have work experience as a cartographer? If not, then may be looking at sitting the English language test also.

    My advice on this - do practice runs.

    Regards,
    Declan Clune


    Thanks Declan,

    No she does not have the experience, I should have stated previously that I (my wife) was banking on getting an average 8+ on the ielts (20 points). That being the case, without the experience, we would score 65 points. Yes particularly 189 visa, I think another 5 points would be availabe for regional sponsored however it is Independent we would prefer.

    I suppose my main question is this, will it be possibe to get the visa with 30 points for age, 15 points for degree and 20 points for english test?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭DeclanClune


    Operator wrote: »
    Thanks Declan,

    No she does not have the experience, I should have stated previously that I (my wife) was banking on getting an average 8+ on the ielts (20 points). That being the case, without the experience, we would score 65 points. Yes particularly 189 visa, I think another 5 points would be availabe for regional sponsored however it is Independent we would prefer.

    Then you need the score of 8 alright if you are going for the 189 visa.
    The processing does take time though so you need to be prepared for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Operator


    Then you need the score of 8 alright if you are going for the 189 visa.
    The processing does take time though so you need to be prepared for that.

    Do you have a ball park time frame? Years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    I need a little help.

    I am 26
    I have a master degree in urban and regional planning
    My skill is on the Skilled Occupation List (SOL): Schedule 1
    I have 3 months of experience back home and I have 3 months of experience here. I will have all in all over a years experience come november 2012 when my 2nd WHV runs out.
    When i do the points assessment i get 8 so i have enough points.
    Can i sponsor myself on a 189?
    Thanks in advance.

    I currently work for a council and i will be working for health/lobby group when my contract finishes with council next month. Would it be worth my while to get a reference from my Bosses stating that i am skilled and competent at my profession and i would be of added value to the workforce if i was given a visa.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Bundy2013


    My partner is an electrician so will be assessed by TRA. The TRA application states you have to have 12 months experience in the last 24 months which he does not have. Is there any point in sending the rest of the documents in for assessment or is that it then? Does that mean he cannot apply?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    danotroy wrote: »
    I need a little help.

    I am 26
    I have a master degree in urban and regional planning
    My skill is on the Skilled Occupation List (SOL): Schedule 1
    I have 3 months of experience back home and I have 3 months of experience here. I will have all in all over a years experience come november 2012 when my 2nd WHV runs out.

    Is all the experience relevant to the occupation?
    danotroy wrote: »
    When i do the points assessment i get 8 so i have enough points.

    You need at least 60 points for a 189 visa
    danotroy wrote: »

    Can i sponsor myself on a 189?

    189 visa is an independent skilled visa, there is no sort of sponsorship involved.
    danotroy wrote: »

    I currently work for a council and i will be working for health/lobby group when my contract finishes with council next month. Would it be worth my while to get a reference from my Bosses stating that i am skilled and competent at my profession and i would be of added value to the workforce if i was given a visa.?

    You would probably require a reference from all employers for the skills assessment anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Is all the experience relevant to the occupation?



    You need at least 60 points for a 189 visa



    189 visa is an independent skilled visa, there is no sort of sponsorship involved.



    You would probably require a reference from all employers for the skills assessment anyway.


    Yes all work is directly linked to planning.

    I get 70 points in the test for the visa.

    I use the term sponsor loosely, i mean can i get a a89 based on what ive said. Or at least be able to apply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    danotroy wrote: »
    Yes all work is directly linked to planning.

    I get 70 points in the test for the visa.

    I use the term sponsor loosely, i mean can i get a a89 based on what ive said. Or at least be able to apply.



    You would need a valid skills assessment first.

    What's your breakdown of points BTW? You won't get anything for overseas experience and at best 5 for Australian experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    25–32 (inclusive) 30
    Superior English—IELTS 8 / OET A 20 I presume I get 20 here. Am i right?
    At least one but less than three years (of past 10 years) 5

    At least a Bachelor degree, including a Bachelor degree with Honours or Masters, from an Australian educational institution or other degree of a recognised standard 15[ I have a masters from a UK University.\

    Would I be correct in my calculations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Legend100


    danotroy wrote: »
    25–32 (inclusive) 30
    Superior English—IELTS 8 / OET A 20 I presume I get 20 here. Am i right?
    At least one but less than three years (of past 10 years) 5

    At least a Bachelor degree, including a Bachelor degree with Honours or Masters, from an Australian educational institution or other degree of a recognised standard 15[ I have a masters from a UK University.\

    Would I be correct in my calculations?


    You need to have done the IELTS test and got an 8 do get those points (even natural english speakers do not automatically get the points)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    danotroy wrote: »
    Superior English—IELTS 8 / OET A 20 I presume I get 20 here. Am i right?

    Superior English eh! You done the test then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    Legend100 wrote: »
    You need to have done the IELTS test and got an 8 do get those points (even natural english speakers do not automatically get the points)

    Okay so i presume i would get 10 in that case that leaves me with 60 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    danotroy wrote: »
    Okay so i presume i would get 10 in that case that leaves me with 60 points.

    You get 0 points for just the passport, you need to do the test to get 10 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭danotroy


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    You get 0 points for just the passport, you need to do the test to get 10 points.

    Well if I was serious about applying I would do the test and I presume that I would receive 10 grade. I don't think I would be proficient enough to get a 20. I did not know there was a test before this conversation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    danotroy wrote: »
    Well if I was serious about applying I would do the test and I presume that I would receive 10 grade. I don't think I would be proficient enough to get a 20. I did not know there was a test before this conversation.

    Well you would probably do the skills assessment first, otherwise it would be a waste doing the English test for nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 tpnath


    Does anyone know how much the medical (X-ray included) for a 189 visa costs? It seems that there are only two places where this could be done (Mater/Euromedic). What is the turnaround time?

    Thanks in advance.


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