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Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II
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I know I know, 10 outta 10 on the crapometer but its great ordinary motoring for the ordinary man. Surely bought for 8 or 900 quid.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3208357
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Possibly the best car in the world ever and all for 700 quid ....
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3102046
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Savage one there the last three
I think the Galant are a great looking yoke, this is the link to the add for the Jag http://www.octane.ie/ads/car.php?id=9327, no NCT but still, the guts of 3 months tax is decent. Has been 4+ years without a test though and needs a windscreen.0 -
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Not slagging the ad or the car, but the ad statesI know I know, 10 outta 10 on the crapometer but its great ordinary motoring for the ordinary man. Surely bought for 8 or 900 quid.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3208357
Wait, maybe I am slagging the car?Similar car to volvo s40 s70 v40 v70
Not your ornery onager
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http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3033406
New NCT, nice colour combination and a low mileage with service history. I'd maybe chance €1000 and see what happens. Regardless could be a fine car for €1200 ish...0 -
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Shur they all come with recent "full services", belts and CV joints changedRoverJames wrote: »No NCT at the moment and no mention of belt history either. Sounds like a SideOfTheRoad Motors special.
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http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3033406
New NCT, nice colour combination and a low mileage with service history. I'd maybe chance €1000 and see what happens. Regardless could be a fine car for €1200 ish...
Sold 40 minutes ago. Can you just hear the conversation on the way home now ....
" Its a minter, a bloody minter. Oh man, I cant beleive I just bought a 166 ...... What have I done " 0 -
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Jeez you really love your belt history don't you RJ? Never seen you post about an Alfa and not commented about the timing belts...:rolleyes:........
Well when Alfa themselves put the interval on the 4 cylinder twin sparks to 36k miles because so many of them were snapping I reckon it's a decent point to make
There are other makes of car I'd happily run to 100k miles and beyond on the factory belts 0 -
RoverJames wrote: »Well when Alfa themselves put the interval on the 4 cylinder twin sparks to 36k miles because so many of them were snapping I reckon it's a decent point to make
You're right it is a decent point to make, it's just you make it at least once a week at this stage... Doesn't need to be made every time an Alfa comes up for sale. At the amount I drive and others too 36k miles is quite a bit you know...0 -
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You're right it is a decent point to make, it's just you make it at least once a week at this stage... Doesn't need to be made every time an Alfa comes up for sale.
I know where you're coming from with that comment but i'm still with RJ on this one despite his obvious prejudice. Its like buying a Saab, every time you'd ask about sludge. Buying a modern diesel, you'd ask about the turbo and the DMF. 90's BM and the engine block trouble, the list goes on. T-Belt on an Alfa is just always a question that needs to be asked. 0 -
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I know where you're coming from with that comment but i'm still with RJ on this one despite his obvious prejudice. Its like buying a Saab, every time you'd ask about sludge. Buying a modern diesel, you'd ask about the turbo and the DMF. 90's BM and the engine block trouble, the list goes on. T-Belt on an Alfa is just always a question that needs to be asked.
It's not asking about it, it's just I can't remember when I saw a comment by RJ not relating to an Alfa's timing belt. Ask away but I don't think it needs to be mentioned each time a clean Alfa comes up. There are other parts on an Alfa that are also weak points.
Ah well each to their own and all that.0 -
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............ Did you know that the front suspension is a known weak point in most Alfas?
I do indeed, I've mentioned it more than a few time too Easy to spot on a testdrive for even the biggest of gnomes though.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=64544398RoverJames wrote: »What about the suspension issues, the thing with Alfas is it typically costs more to maintain them. Realistically a €1500 Alfa won't be wise move.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70369095RoverJames wrote: »Suspension bits and the short frequency of timing belts are the only thing that would put me off. Suspension are not drive and 2 ton jack friendly jobs and the I wouldn't chance driving an Alfa that was overdue a cambelt change, lots of other cars I would without too much worry. The costs of the cambelt change relative to the purchase price of the car is not insignificant in my view. So buying one for €1200 that's due a belt is not really savage value for a 2001 ish car with 100K miles on it
There doesn't seem to be that many old 156s about now though so a good one would be nice to have, I hate driving around in something that loads of folks have.
Edit: I'd agree with above point, a decent spec Accord would be money better spent.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75018330RoverJames wrote: »The twin spark rubbish is the greatest load of unnecessary crap ever (in a small capacity car engine), little if any actual benefit, why they persisted with it I'll never understand. They saw the light eventually I suppose.
Also from a manufacturing view point the fragility of the valve timing train is also another weakness and nothing to be proud of. Tensioners were chocolate. Interval aside the timing assembly on them was simply not a great design.
When the 156 was introduced Alfa were pushing the message of how they have overcome the reliability issues, as the time I used to deliver parts to an alfa mechanic on a Saturday who used to do some work on the side, he was telling me that as the salemen were bleating onto potential customers about the reliability (at the time lots of reps were getting 156s, pre diesel days really I suppose) the workshop was full of warranty jobs, there were a lot of early ones that had issues with the balance belt, not enough teeth on it so it used to hop off.
Personally I'd be slow to buy a car that mightn't make 36k miles after a belt change. If it goes it's fairly serious.
I also reckon the 156 is a cramped enough car for the driver. The built around the driver lark doesn't cut it, so is an ST202 Celica and you don't get the squashed feeling. The non leathered ones are cheap and nasty looking. And the suspension is chocolately too.
The handling of a 156 isn't wonderful, it's better than a Vectra alright but not up there with a Mark3 mondeo, the 156 is woeful in a crash too.
The 159s are GM engined so aren't real Alfas in my opinion.
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Jeez you really love your belt history don't you RJ? Never seen you post about an Alfa and not commented about the timing belts...:rolleyes:
The add states that a new NCT could be put on for the new buyer. So it's probably safe to assume that it's in reasonable mechanical order and/or that the seller would be willing to fix whatever is wrong for the NCT...RoverJames wrote: »Well when Alfa themselves put the interval on the 4 cylinder twin sparks to 36k miles because so many of them were snapping I reckon it's a decent point to make
There are other makes of car I'd happily run to 100k miles and beyond on the factory belts
TBH as an Alfa lover I wouldn't be too worried about the belts as long as it was running fine at the point of sale, I'd be planning on changing them myself (for obvious reasons) anyway, I'd also factor that into the sale.
Editr: Can say the 156 actually was pretty good in a head on smash, well, below30mph anyway 0 -
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Oh look, a post with a car in it......
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3193496
NCT till years end. A good bit of work done. Cant go wrong for €600.0
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