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Do you want Dark Souls on PC?
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »You also need to stop calling everyone who politely disagrees with you fanboys or peasants. Will probably help your argument somewhat as silly name-calling gets no-one anywhere
sorry, noted.
getting carried away. plus i guess i am doing not bad in my life for 12 years old
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Would people please try to keep it civil as possible. I'm sick of these threads turning into fanboy flame wars.
I think Dark Souls would work great on PC but, tbh,if you have the money then there's no reason you shouldn't own at least one of the consoles because if you don't own multiple machines you are going to miss out on some games.
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Regardless of our format/formats of choice we are all gamers,we should be all singing be from the same hymm sheet.
I think that's why some of us are arguing :P
There have been a few people on this thread who have point-blank refused to play Dark Souls unless there's a PC port. I think the rest of us are just slightly disappointed about that, because Dark Souls is such a great game that it'd be fantastic to see more people play it. The full Dark Souls thread is actually one of the best the games forum has seen recently, because everyone who was playing formed a fantastic community to help each other out (every bit as busy as the Skyrim one, albeit with a smaller playerbase). And, if (like many a Japanese console game past) the game doesn't get ported, a format bias shouldn't be an obstacle when there's two perfectly fine versions of the game to enjoy already 0 -
johnny_ultimate wrote: »I think that's why some of us are arguing :P
There have been a few people on this thread who have point-blank refused to play Dark Souls unless there's a PC port. I think the rest of us are just slightly disappointed about that, because Dark Souls is such a great game that it'd be fantastic to see more people play it. The full Dark Souls thread is actually one of the best the games forum has seen recently, because everyone who was playing formed a fantastic community to help each other out (every bit as busy as the Skyrim one, albeit with a smaller playerbase). And, if (like many a Japanese console game past) the game doesn't get ported, a format bias shouldn't be an obstacle when there's two perfectly fine versions of the game to enjoy already
not really.
the point of all the video was: "PC gamers asking to port one of the best games this year on PC from console. If the thing we ask does not sound good, then here are reasons A B C D E F ... X Y Z why it could be a good idea."
and what happened: "console gamers went all out and got very angry: " HOW DARE YOU NOT TO BUY THAT HARDWARE AND ASK FOR THAT GAME TO BE PORTED TO PC, ARE YOU SAYING CONSOLES ARE ****!? YOU DAMN BASTARDS!" "
what alot of people forgeting is that TB ( and alot of other PC gamers ) have that console or even that game, but they would enjoy that on pc more then on console. This is where it all ends, when god ideas being miss sunderstood, and becomes a food for fanboys war.
As for PC vs Console, me and some other forum members game great valid points about PCs, but we were point blank refused to be listen to and just made as laughing stock. you get a knowladge from people who own PC and consoles, so they can give a non one sided opinion on perks and downsides, but instead, it just turns in to what we have here.
there are good few lads on "building PC" forum on boards.ie, i am always checking that forum and always give a hand to people who decide to go and try to build first gaming pc, no matter if its high end machine or low budget starter machine, me and most of the lads there will try to give our 110% to make fellow gamers happy. It makes me happy as more and more people who have passion for games will try new things! When i see people who wont see anything pass their own circle of vision, then it makes me just sad. Its like middle ages: if i dont know it, it means its EVIL and should be burned!
as for me taking a piss with all "peasants and godly PC master race". everyone who knows where that phrase came up and what it actually means will know, that is just messing around and taking a piss thing ( irish people are very good at it). it was even invented by console person and not the biggest fan of pc gaming.
if i reached at least one hardcore console gamer, who refuses even to "know" that there is something more then console, with this, then i am very happy.0 -
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That's not what happened at all. johnny_ultimate made the point that many of us who game on a variety of platforms cannot understand why people don't just bite the bullet and, assuming they can afford it, have both a PC and at least one console in order to enjoy the widest variety of games. Your reply to this was the first to introduce the idea of the angry console player who has still yet to actually appear on the thread.ShadowHearth wrote: »not really.
the point of all the video was: "PC gamers asking to port one of the best games this year on PC from console. If the thing we ask does not sound good, then here are reasons A B C D E F ... X Y Z why it could be a good idea."
and what happened: "console gamers went all out and got very angry: " HOW DARE YOU NOT TO BUY THAT HARDWARE AND ASK FOR THAT GAME TO BE PORTED TO PC, ARE YOU SAYING CONSOLES ARE ****!? YOU DAMN BASTARDS!" "
Yes, some valid points were made. I was happy to see the distinction being made between PC gaming being an expensive upfront cost rather than it being just flat out expensive. However the majority of the other points were made with an annoying amount of hypocrisy and condescension which stifled any chance of a reasonable debate happening.ShadowHearth wrote: »As for PC vs Console, me and some other forum members game great valid points about PCs, but we were point blank refused to be listen to and just made as laughing stock. you get a knowladge from people who own PC and consoles, so they can give a non one sided opinion on perks and downsides, but instead, it just turns in to what we have here.
Quite true, yet when I used it while referencing a completely idiotic quote from the petition which actually make the case for the port weaker and which thankfully no one has tried to defend yet and only one person has mistakenly agreed with, you responded with a sarcastic rolleyes comment.ShadowHearth wrote: »as for me taking a piss with all "peasants and godly PC master race". everyone who knows where that phrase came up and what it actually means will know, that is just messing around and taking a piss thing ( irish people are very good at it). it was even invented by console person and not the biggest fan of pc gaming.
Despite the above being patently untrue, what you originally said was...Eh? You have to be kidding , the biggest games on consoles these days are FPS's/shooters and everyone knows this.
Replying to this isn't being sensitive, it's pointing out complete rubbish. To make matters worse, you said that and then made your Demon's Souls gaff all the while talking down to other users. And then you wonder why people get angry?When I bought a ps3 I was looking forward to playing some console games again but instead they went down the Quake 2 path and its filled with PC games dumbed down and compressed onto a console.
Now, as for the current issue, while some PC only gamers are waiting for news on Dark Souls, may I recommend Severance: Blade Of Darkness to keep them going if they haven't already played it. Sure it's not as new as Dark Souls but it's still a highly enjoyable and quite challenging action RPG. Only downside is I haven't been able to find it anywhere for purchase new, at least on none of the major digital distribution sites or retail sites.
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Now, as for the current issue, while some PC only gamers are waiting for news on Dark Souls, may I recommend Severance: Blade Of Darkness to keep them going if they haven't already played it. Sure it's not as new as Dark Souls but it's still a highly enjoyable and quite challenging action RPG. Only downside is I haven't been able to find it anywhere for purchase new, at least on none of the major digital distribution sites or retail sites.
severance: blade of darkness is one of the best rpg hack/slashers in the business. the graphics are decent enough for such an old game, they give it a charming feel rather than a "my god, this game is so old" feel.
everything else gizmo said was nonsense obviously0 -
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The level of backtracking is reaching staggering levels. I'll quote it once more for posterity...Its complete rubbish that Quake 2 was a dumbed down version of the great game that it was on PC.......oooooooooookay.
Getting worked up over facts is being over sensitive.When I bought a ps3 I was looking forward to playing some console games again but instead they went down the Quake 2 path and its filled with PC games dumbed down and compressed onto a console.
You weren't talking about Quake 2 in the above quote, you were talking about the platform being filled with ports of PC games which don't work. This is complete rubbish.
Just to clarify though, I was aware Quake 2 got a port to the Playstation. If I remember correctly it was also a horrifically compromised port which, control system aside, was never going to work. A better example to use would be Quake III with it's Dreamcast port which, all things considered, wasn't actually that bad. What proved to be far more interesting, however, was the PC-side hack which allowed both sets of players to face off against each other. The result was probably the best example of why a keyboard and mouse is better suited to FPS games than a controller.
Due to the fact that I primarily play BF3 on the PC in Hardcore mode, I didn't even realise that multiplayer had grenade indicators. Maybe if you want to avoid the game being dumbed down you should try it?I will never stop using the term dumbed down when that is very much the case. I am not however implying anything about the intelligence of anyone playing. Often the games have to be dumbed down to even work on a console. If anyone is implying anything about the intelligence of console gamers its the developers. I don't use the term dumbed down when just talking about consoles games. BF3 is dumbed down compared to BF2 for example. "Oh we better not let the poor gamers get annoyed about being blown up by a grenade , lets make sure there's a big giant red flashing light on the grenade and a 5 second delay plus someone shouting "GRENADE" and a very loud banging noise when it hits the ground so our poor dumb gamers are completely aware someone had thrown a grenade at them....we wouldn't want to make it too hard for them".0 -
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I don't see how Quake 2 was a dumbed down port on the PS1. From what I remember it was an excellent port which added new elements to the game to replace the larger levels that the PS1 couldn't handle. It was also hardly dumbed down considering in retrospect Quake 2 was as dumb a FPS as you can get.
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The level of backtracking is reaching staggering levels. I'll quote it once more for posterity...
You really don't get what I'm saying do you. The genre FPS is a PC genre that got squeezed onto the consoles and started to take off in popularity, overshadowing the types of games that used to work well on console that I enjoyed before this happened. Such became a trend to make everything a shooter. A shooter by default would be best kept to PC. (not that it should be) This is why demon souls is the perfect console game, its not trying to be a pc game thus it does not end up feeling limited in what it should have been as a game. It plays to the consoles strengths and doesn't dumb anything down . Reminds me of the classic gaming of years past.Due to the fact that I primarily play BF3 on the PC in Hardcore mode, I didn't even realise that multiplayer had grenade indicators. Maybe if you want to avoid the game being dumbed down you should try it?
HA! & he wips out his e-penis. Jaysus. Listen I have arma when I wanna play a "hardcore" sim. BF3's default mode of play should be the same as BF2's. Then maybe they should have softcore mode for the console gamers or something. I would play hardcore mode if it was the same settings as BF2/1942 but its not. I highly doubt you get to control how far you can throw grenades in hardcore mode too. In fact I'm pretty damn sure those flashing lights on the nades are still there in hardcore mode so I'm not sure how you've not noticed
Resident Evil deep? Seriously????
Come on the series is about as deep as a puddle in the middle of Death Valley. There is nothing deep about either the gameplay mechanics or storyline in the Resident Evil series. Did you honestly find the horror elements scary once you got past the age of 12?
Resi 1 is deeper than resi 5 gameplay wise in the context of the series itself is what I'm getting at. And for its time Resi 1 was pretty impressive. I'm not talking about story at all btw, they are all equally as cheesy (intentionally so I think) The cheesyness is whats fun about Resident Evil.Because thats the way you come across. I'm far from the only one who thinks this.
Hahahahahaha. Well people need to not take comments so personally then. I will always use the term dumbed down when that is very much what has taken place. I mean visuals and game play. Usually to suit the more casual players of a game. People who wanna chill on a couch and have a relaxing game of an FPS owning noobs without having to worry about watching for grenades or looking for the enemy and would rather red flashing lights and 3d red arrows above enemys heads to do the work.
I play consoles too and totally understand it, the simpler the better on a console. Nothing to do with the person playing its to do with the type of gameplay that works better in that setting. (FPS)
Auto-aim for example automatically means dumbing down the game. Not cause the user is too stupid but cause the hardware is lacking.Retr0gamer wrote: »I don't see how Quake 2 was a dumbed down port on the PS1. From what I remember it was an excellent port which added new elements to the game to replace the larger levels that the PS1 couldn't handle. It was also hardly dumbed down considering in retrospect Quake 2 was as dumb a FPS as you can get.
So the PS1 version of Quake 2 is better than the PC version?0 -
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