Pacquiao v Mayweather

cowzerp

EireGreg wrote: »

The same curse as the Kiltshkos haha do you watch boxing mate? these last 10 years have nearly destroyed the hwd because of the low standard of boxers calling the kiltschkos astounding boxers just made your whole point worthless.. good maybe astounding they are not.

Eiregreg, them brothers would beat most boxers ever, if you don't realise that then your the 1 that's clueless.

This is why their opponents look so limited, because against them they are.

EireGreg

cowzerp wrote: »

Eiregreg, them brothers would beat most boxers ever, if you don't realise that then your the 1 that's clueless.

This is why their opponents look so limited, because against them they are.

We are going to have to agree to disagree

cowzerp

EireGreg wrote: »

We are going to have to agree to disagree

No!
I agree you're wrong only and need to watch the Brothers and realise how good they are!

Frank Bullitt

EireGreg wrote: »

The same curse as the Kiltshkos haha do you watch boxing mate? these last 10 years have nearly destroyed the hwd because of the low standard of boxers calling the kiltschkos astounding boxers just made your whole point worthless.. good maybe astounding they are not.

Well how are they not astounding? They bring a different dimension to the game, its tactical and precise, a different way of boxing, it's chess with their fists.

Just because they don't do trash talk and that their opponents are not as good as them does not diminish their skills. They have all the belts for a reason. So my point is not worthless.

EireGreg

I have never said the brothers are bad boxers i just think astounding is a bit fair from the mark, i could namedrop many a boxer imo in the last 30 years that would have destroyed the two of them. David haye taking it to a points decision is proof enough for me, and remember he had a broken toe!! j/k.... i feel and many do to that the hwd is in ruins

Frank Bullitt

EireGreg wrote: »

I have never said the brothers are bad boxers i just think astounding is a bit fair from the mark, i could namedrop many a boxer imo in the last 30 years that would have destroyed the two of them. David haye taking it to a points decision is proof enough for me, and remember he had a broken toe!! j/k.... i feel and many do to that the hwd is in ruins

As has been said, they could have beaten most boxers in their division, whatever time frame, if that does not make them astounding then what does?

And what does David Haye taking it to a decision have anything to do with it? He won about 2 rounds in the whole fight and backed off the entire time, his broken toe is a bull**** excuse because he was out boxed by a dominant force.

EireGreg

Gintonious wrote: »

As has been said, they could have beaten most boxers in their division, whatever time frame, if that does not make them astounding then what does?

And what does David Haye taking it to a decision have anything to do with it? He won about 2 rounds in the whole fight and backed off the entire time, his broken toe is a bull**** excuse because he was out boxed by a dominant force.

what does david hayes point decision have anything to do with it! really

Frank Bullitt

EireGreg wrote: »

what does david hayes point decision have anything to do with it! really

Is that a question? Haye was a HW champion least we forget, yet spent the entire fight agaisnt Klitschko backing off and not engaging. Wlad punihsed him with his jab, and went for the knock out. How is a majority decision over a current champion a bad thing.

Do tell.

walshb

EireGreg wrote: »

what does david hayes point decision have anything to do with it! really

Haye was dominated. He spoiled for a hell of a lot of the fight. Haye could have survived many others with them tactics.

walshb

Gintonious wrote: »

Is that a question? Haye was a HW champion least we forget, yet spent the entire fight agaisnt Klitschko backing off and not engaging. Wlad punihsed him with his jab, and went for the knock out. How is a majority decision over a current champion a bad thing.

Do tell.

Majority decision? Did Wlad not win a clear UD?

Frank Bullitt

walshb wrote: »

Majority decision? Did Wlad not win a clear UD?

Whoops, slip of the keyboard there, sorry.

Syferus

supackofidiots wrote: »

Mate, I've recently been vindicated by the admins and cat mods in dispute resolution forum after accusations of re-regging.

Please keep it on topic like Paul has said, we're all just here to discuss the sport of boxing, let's not get side tracked with these juvenile tit for tat games. I certainly don't have my gums wrapped around his plums like some of you are suggesting however.

On topic, I'm a big Mayweather fan, I don't see how you can't be a fan of undoubtedly the most technically skillful boxer to ever enter the squared circle. He's a genius.

No, Supackofidiots and Cowzerp, I really, really, really, really thought you were Floyd Money Maywether, the Olympic bronze medalist, future hall of famer, millionaire jail-jumping superstar phenom spending your time on an Irish web forum switching from posting loving portraits about your own boxing prowess to the availability of Limerick FC tickets.

Y'see, it's a little-known fact LFC is his childhood team and the University of Limerick is his alma mater. The accent's just for show.

Sweet motherf**king lord. FML. Omg. Lol. Lmao.

Words do not begin to describe my incredulity right now.

Jayob10

supackofidiots wrote: »

Amazing that he has been p4p top 10 since 1998,he has seen them come and go yet he remains undefeated and on top once again p4p #1 at the age of 35 soon to be 36,He is 43-0 a 8 time champ(should be 9 just didnt pay for shanes belt)in 5 divisions no other fighter in the history of this sport has won 8 titles in 5 divisions and remained undefeated,over half of his fights have been title fights.Manny had a stint on top and all the hype,yet Floyd just kept defeating current champions coming off of big wins,no smoke and mirror act,no catch weight titles. Now it appears he will fight 2 more current champions in 2013 at the age of 36 and if he defeats them both he can retire 45-0 with possible 9(should be 10)world titles and maybe even possibly add 1 more lineal title to his resume,this guy is hated so much on here because of his perfection,this guy is a boxing god

Do you actually like Boxing? Or is Floyd Mayweather to you what Justin Bieber is to pre pubescent girls?

I don't know what it is about Mayweather that attracts these type of boxing "fans".

Are they wannabe gangsters or what?

Tucker.Tim

supackofidiots wrote: »

Floyd will easily pick canelo apart.
He'll box him on the outside all night.

Canelo is good, but not great. See why they're keeping him away from Trout and Martinez.

Floyd takes this one easy. Canelo won't put gloves on the King.

A lot of people on here don't realise how good Floyd is.

He trains like an absolute animal. He's 35 but in terms of boxing damage accumulation he's like a fresh faced pup. He hasn't been in the brutal wars, or taken the heavy hits like Pac. These two things are why he is still the best.

I think the fight with Canelo burns a fire under Floyd. He seems to thrive on facing those young hungry wolves. Expect a beast performance from him versus Canelo. It's a massive PPV, and definitely a more competitive fight than Pacquaio. I'm less inclined to think he fights Guerrero. Floyd would roll back in to bed before training for that one.

alot of praise for someone who's cherry picked opponents his whole career. he's like a klitchko in reverse, rather than not having the opponents available to prove his greatness he's only faced those opponents when they suited him or were well passed their best.

a fully fit and focused manny would still probably beat mayweather in a fair fight.

willmunny1990

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

alot of praise for someone who's cherry picked opponents his whole career. he's like a klitchko in reverse, rather than not having the opponents available to prove his greatness he's only faced those opponents when they suited him or were well passed their best.

a fully fit and focused manny would still probably beat mayweather in a fair fight.

That is total nonsense.

Halloween Jack

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

alot of praise for someone who's cherry picked opponents his whole career. he's like a klitchko in reverse, rather than not having the opponents available to prove his greatness he's only faced those opponents when they suited him or were well passed their best.

a fully fit and focused manny would still probably beat mayweather in a fair fight.

Manny's idea of a fair fight is fighting de la Hoya at welter when he should have been a middle weight or fighting for welterweight titles at 144 and the likes. He's just as guilty of being well matched and cherry picking fighters as mayweather. A lot of the best names on his résumé were damaged goods by the time they faced manny,

Frank Bullitt

I doubt a decent Manny would beat Mayweather, on any night at any time.

Both are as bad as eachother for matchmaking and making the fights to their liking.

Ghost.

What about Mayweather and De la Hoya? Mayweather was lucky to get the decision, it was a close fight. And De la Hoya in his prime would have won clearly.
Mayweather is good but beatable, and I think a 100% Manny would give him trouble. Styles make fights and I see how Mayweathers style would cause him trouble but Mayweather always suffers a bit when he doesnt have a huge speed advantage over his opponent. Or when they pressure him into a corner or against the ropes, sure thats why hatton done so well against him and wasnt stopped earlier, plus he was fighting Mayweather and the Ref.
Manny v Mayeather would be a tight fight provided mannys speed holds up and he fights the right fight.

Halloween Jack

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ

Mayweather doesn't struggle when pressured onto the ropes, he has one of the best close up defence I've ever seen. His strength on the inside has been a not so secret weapon for years, and was largely the reason hatton hadn't a hope. Ricky's deeply flawed gameplan was to get in close and rough up mayweather, however floyd was the stronger man on the inside and hatton had no plan b.

As the clip above goes some way to showing, he outlanded delahoya by an embarrassingly wide margin, Oscar pressured floyd all night and floyd defended brilliantly before countering.

Tucker.Tim

willmunny1990 wrote: »

That is total nonsense.

do you expect anyone to take you seriously when your response to someone is that's nonsense? :rolleyes:

to the others:

i'm sorry if i've wrecked the floyd love-in but pressure is the one thing that works on mayweather and manny's game is perfect for counter-acting mayweather. he gets inside mayweather even once and floyd will be getting the biggest battering of his life.

Frank Bullitt

Manny is also very open to the right hand, as Marquez showed at the weekend, Mayweather would expose that to the full.

Floyd also has a brilliant defense, so even if Manny can get inside, and that is a big IF, he can wrap up and stay protected. Also getting in close with a bigger fighter is a big gamble, especially with a fighter of Mayweathers calibre.

walshb

All this talk of speed and power in comparing Manny and Floyd is of less importance IMO. I always felt that Floyd's size would be a factor. His deceptive strength on the inside. Manny will end up close to Floyd at stages, and Manny will be manhandled and roughed up and hit. Reach and height in Floyd's favor. Manny needs to get close, and when he does he will eat leather.

el flaco

Canelo claiming that a deal to fight Mayweather in May is close. Assuming nobody has hacked his facebook page that is.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/12/13/3764842/floyd-mayweather-vs-canelo-alvarez-close-may-4-next-fight-facebook-quote-boxing-news

Halloween Jack

Furthermore, floyd's chin is excellent, he's taken decent shots from bigger men than manny.

I think Mandy's big advantage is that he's a southpaw, no orthodox fighter likes a southpaw even one as complete as floyd.

However I feel the best version of manny would have ultimately come up short against floyd and I think if the fight were to happen tomorrow I fear he would be outboxed comfortably.

Ghost.

Mayweather doesn't struggle when pressured onto the ropes, he has one of the best close up defence I've ever seen. His strength on the inside has been a not so secret weapon for years, and was largely the reason hatton hadn't a hope. Ricky's deeply flawed gameplan was to get in close and rough up mayweather, however floyd was the stronger man on the inside and hatton had no plan b.

Hatton had no plan B. But he only had one choice of tactics and that was to pressure floyd on the ropes and get in close. It just happens to be the most effective tactic against him and it allowed Hatton a vastly inferior fighter to last 10 rounds with Mayweather. Had he stood off from him he would have been annilatated in 3 or 4 rounds, the way Manny did. And Im sure if Floyd could have taken him out earlier he would have. The fact is that style of fighting works best against Mayweather.
Now couple that with someone stronger, faster and who can bang (Sound like Manny) employing the same tactics and I see it being a long day at the office for Floyd. It would be a tough fight for him. But I agree Manny would need to be 100% and bring his A game.

As for the De La Hoya fight, never mind the Floyd fans clips of Floyd landing shots, watch the full fight. It was close. Much closer than anybody expected.

Halloween Jack

Ghost. wrote: »

Hatton had no plan B. But he only had one choice of tactics and that was to pressure floyd on the ropes and get in close. It just happens to be the most effective tactic against him and it allowed Hatton a vastly inferior fighter to last 10 rounds with Mayweather. Had he stood off from him he would have been annilatated in 3 or 4 rounds, the way Manny did. And Im sure if Floyd could have taken him out earlier he would have. The fact is that style of fighting works best against Mayweather.
Now couple that with someone stronger, faster and who can bang (Sound like Manny) employing the same tactics and I see it being a long day at the office for Floyd. It would be a tough fight for him. But I agree Manny would need to be 100% and bring his A game.

As for the De La Hoya fight, never mind the Floyd fans clips of Floyd landing shots, watch the full fight. It was close. Much closer than anybody expected.

I watched the delahoya fight on the night thanks......

i still have the same opinion of it then that i have now, oscar showed aggression but couldnt find a way through mayweather's defense, he closed the distance down and banged away but too often couldnt make it count, meanwhile floyd was scoring regularly.

You can actually see oscar getting frustrated throughout the fight, working hard hard to get in, only to be given the slip time and again.

Now delahoya probably went into the ring north of 160lbs that night, he couldnt successfully rough up floyd on the inside, quite why you think 146lbs pacman would is anyone's guess.

As for Hatton he tried the pressure approach, but was too small and his lateral movement etc, wasnt up to scratch, after the early rounds floyd could have him out of there at will, but another reason floyd hasnt lost is that he doesnt get careless and go in wide open looking for ko's, like pacman at the weekend. He often starts slowly in fights, figures his opponent out and coasts to wide decisions.

Frank Bullitt

Ghost. wrote: »

Hatton had no plan B. But he only had one choice of tactics and that was to pressure floyd on the ropes and get in close. It just happens to be the most effective tactic against him and it allowed Hatton a vastly inferior fighter to last 10 rounds with Mayweather. Had he stood off from him he would have been annilatated in 3 or 4 rounds, the way Manny did. And Im sure if Floyd could have taken him out earlier he would have. The fact is that style of fighting works best against Mayweather.
Now couple that with someone stronger, faster and who can bang (Sound like Manny) employing the same tactics and I see it being a long day at the office for Floyd. It would be a tough fight for him. But I agree Manny would need to be 100% and bring his A game.

As for the De La Hoya fight, never mind the Floyd fans clips of Floyd landing shots, watch the full fight. It was close. Much closer than anybody expected.

Manny stronger and faster than Mayweather? Have you watched any of his fights? Mayweather is far stronger than Manny, and bigger, and just as fast. That style might work against Mayweather but to back up that style you have to be able to roll with him in the size and strength department.

walshb

Gintonious wrote: »

Manny stronger and faster than Mayweather? Have you watched any of his fights? Mayweather is far stronger than Manny, and bigger, and just as fast. That style might work against Mayweather but to back up that style you have to be able to roll with him in the size and strength department.

I think the poster is saying that Manny is faster and stronger than what Hatton was in 2007? Anyway, Manny is not IMO as strong as Mayweather.

Either way I see this fight being fought mainly on the outside. Floyd having the speed and reach to be the winner. If the fight gets close I can't see Manny having much success. He was never an inside fighter. I could also envisage Floyd walking Manny down as the rounds go by.

Frank Bullitt

walshb wrote: »

I think the poster is saying that Manny is faster and stronher than what Hatton was in 2007? Anyway, Manny is not IMO as strong as Mayweather.

Maybe, but when he said (sound like Manny) after it, I thought he was referring to him, maybe I am wrong.

I do think Mayweather has him in the strength department, he is deceptively strong for his size and for a boxer.

Granted in his fight agaisnt Cotto, he was a little slower than normal, but it was marginal, and to be expected at his age.

Ghost.

I was referring to Manny being stronger than Hatton on the inside and that he would be more successful employing similar tactics. Manny is never going to have the size to bully Mayweather but what he will do is is be more successful hurting him with shots on the inside when he gets in. And thats "When", because if the likes of Hatton could make his way in Manny sure as hell will.
I think it would be more likely that Mayweather would nail him on the way out rather than on the way in the way Marquez did.

Anyway I still reckon thats how Mayweather will be beaten if he gets beaten by somebody.

Halloween Jack

Ghost. wrote: »

I was referring to Manny being stronger than Hatton on the inside and that he would be more successful employing similar tactics. Manny is never going to have the size to bully Mayweather but what he will do is is be more successful hurting him with shots on the inside when he gets in. And thats "When", because if the likes of Hatton could make his way in Manny sure as hell will.
I think it would be more likely that Mayweather would nail him on the way out rather than on the way in the way Marquez did.

Anyway I still reckon thats how Mayweather will be beaten if he gets beaten by somebody.

Fair enough.

I unashamedly love floyd the fighter and i unashamedly dislike floyd individual, so it both irks and pleases me to to qoute the man himself

'there is no antidote to floyd mayweather'

Now im not suggesting he is unbeatable, but id suggest he's correct in stating that there is no clear blueprint for beating him. He's very, very good on the inside, as we've been discussing and near unbeatable on the outside, he can fight a number of ways, he traded with mosely, countered marquez to oblivion, rope a doped hatton etc. Even though the reflexes aren't as sharp, he still possesses the finest ring mind of his generation and is one of the most accurate and economical punchers around.

The reason the fight between himself and Manny would have been great is not just because Manny was quick and hit hard, but he was unorthodox, could throw punches from mad angles, dived in at unexpected times, and moved in unconventional ways, for once floyd may have faced something unexpected.

cowzerp

Floyd is the Master in close, worst way to beat him is getting inside!!

Only way this would work is if you're well stronger than him, even been a bot stronger won't cut it, Alvarez to me is well stronger but lacking in footwork to keep him there and speed compared to Floyd, The great thing with Floyd is he can do it all, He doesn't tend to have to but he can attack when he needs to and can bang when he needs to-His chin is solid and his defense is impeccable as Tyson would have said.

Mayweather needs to be beat from a speed merchant at range but odds on that happening are slim to none till age catches up if he keeps on fighting.

When De la Hoya fought Mayweather i was very biased towards De la Hoya as where the commentators and I Thought he won, watching back he was well beaten by Floyd, De la Hoya was landing nothing and eating constant counters, Floyd never even left 2nd gear and easily won that fight-Only time he got hit was when been held and hit and that was no use physically or scoring wise .

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

defense is impeccable as Tyson would have said.
.

Impregnable I think it was. I remember that interview. I think it was after he KO'd Bruno in 1989.

walshb

BTW, Floyd didn't beat Oscar handily at all. It was a very close fight, and the scores reflected this.

Boring fight overall.

Fall_Guy

cowzerp wrote: »

When De la Hoya fought Mayweather i was very biased towards De la Hoya as where the commentators and I Thought he won, watching back he was well beaten by Floyd, De la Hoya was landing nothing and eating constant counters, Floyd never even left 2nd gear and easily won that fight-Only time he got hit was when been held and hit and that was no use physically or scoring wise .

Agree with this 100%, the De La Hoya fight seems close if you are scoring De La Hoya's pressure but in reality it was ineffective pressure, throwing tonnes of shots that Floyd blocked or parried. It was a bit like when people were trying to make out that Ortiz was troubling Floyd before the controversial finish last year because he was rushing Floyd and throwing a lot of shots. But for all Ortiz' aggression he barely put a glove on Mayweather. Floyd was rolling all the shots or taking them on his arms and then landing whenever he countered.

walshb

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Agree with this 100%, the De La Hoya fight seems close if you are scoring De La Hoya's pressure but in reality it was ineffective pressure, throwing tonnes of shots that Floyd blocked or parried. It was a bit like when people were trying to make out that Ortiz was troubling Floyd before the controversial finish last year because he was rushing Floyd and throwing a lot of shots. But for all Ortiz' aggression he barely put a glove on Mayweather. Floyd was rolling all the shots or taking them on his arms and then landing whenever he countered.

Well, Floyd too hit a lot of arms and gloves in that fight. Oscar blocked many many Floyd shots.

Fall_Guy

walshb wrote: »

Well, Floyd too hit a lot of arms and gloves in that fight. Oscar blocked many many Floyd shots.

He did, but Floyd still landed a much higher percentage of his shots. Like you said earlier it was a very poor fight to watch.

cowzerp

Fall_Guy wrote: »

He did, but Floyd still landed a much higher percentage of his shots. Like you said earlier it was a very poor fight to watch.

I genuinely Don't even think De la hoya wanted to win, i think it was passing the torch and making Floyd the Money Machine for both them and Floyd also did not want De la hoya to look bad-Conspiracy theory i know but Floyd took that fight so relaxed like he only wanted to win small.

gene_tunney

I really enjoyed Mayweather vs De La Hoya. Had it 8-4 Floyd but many rounds were close.

Anyway, what's all this rubbish about people saying MP would have to get inside to beat Mayweather? lolwut. Have people here watched Pacquiao fight? He NEVER fights on the inside. Pac is a mid-range, aggressive, counterpunching boxer-puncher. Not an inside fighter.

walshb

Fall_Guy wrote: »

He did, but Floyd still landed a much higher percentage of his shots. Like you said earlier it was a very poor fight to watch.

And that is why I have only watched it once. Maybe a rewatch will sway me, unless I fall asleep watching it again;).

gene_tunney

walshb wrote: »

And that is why I have only watched it once. Maybe a rewatch will sway me, unless I fall asleep watching it again;).

I could watch that fight on repeat all day. Good stuff. I have yet to watch a Mayweather fight I didn't enjoy. Even his one-sided encounters are fascinating, eg vs Marquez.

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

I really enjoyed Mayweather vs De La Hoya. Had it 8-4 Floyd but many rounds were close.

Anyway, what's all this rubbish about people saying MP would have to get inside to beat Mayweather? lolwut. Have people here watched Pacquiao fight? He NEVER fights on the inside. Pac is a mid-range, aggressive, counterpunching boxer-puncher. Not an inside fighter.

Exactly. But, he will have to get close enough to land shots on a bigger man. I don't think he wins inside or outside. Floyd makes a foe commit that bit more to be successful. That is what makes him special. Manny will need to change his attacking approach vs. Floyd. It's ok against mummies like Marg and Clottey, but against Floyd I feel Manny will need to be more inventive with his attacks. Anytime Manny is in range to land or connect he will be faced with a fore that is also in range and who possesses great counterpunching and defense, and who is sharper than anyone he has ever faced.

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

I could watch that fight on repeat all day. Good stuff. I have yet to watch a Mayweather fight I didn't enjoy. Even his one-sided encounters are fascinating, eg vs Marquez.

I love watching Floyd, but that fight was a bore.

cowzerp

walshb wrote: »

I love watching Floyd, but that fight was a bore.

I rewatched it as i often do when Fighters i may be biased to are in it, Won't watch it again but i would say to Bren-I think you'll be suprised at how easy it all was for a Floyd, Was like he barely tried.

I think you where a big De la hoya fan too?

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

I rewatched it as i often do when Fighters i may be biased to are in it, Won't watch it again but i would say to Bren-I think you'll be suprised at how easy it all was for a Floyd, Was like he barely tried.

I think you where a big De la hoya fan too?

Yes, I did like Oscar when at his best. His last few years were pretty sad viewing. I always rememberd from the 2007 fight that had Oscar not made the effort then we wouldn't have had a fight. Anyway, I will watch again soon and score it.

I tgink a 1999/2000 Oscar would be too good for a WW Floyd.

Jayob10

cowzerp wrote: »

Floyd is the Master in close, worst way to beat him is getting inside!!

Only way this would work is if you're well stronger than him, even been a bot stronger won't cut it, Alvarez to me is well stronger but lacking in footwork to keep him there and speed compared to Floyd, The great thing with Floyd is he can do it all, He doesn't tend to have to but he can attack when he needs to and can bang when he needs to-His chin is solid and his defense is impeccable as Tyson would have said.

Mayweather needs to be beat from a speed merchant at range but odds on that happening are slim to none till age catches up if he keeps on fighting.

When De la Hoya fought Mayweather i was very biased towards De la Hoya as where the commentators and I Thought he won, watching back he was well beaten by Floyd, De la Hoya was landing nothing and eating constant counters, Floyd never even left 2nd gear and easily won that fight-Only time he got hit was when been held and hit and that was no use physically or scoring wise .

Thats a terrific synopsis Cowzerp, you are spot on.

Posters on here will know i'm no fan of this particular fighter i'm about to mention, but I'm gunna go for it anyways, style's make fights and all that.

Amir Khan, albeit a polished version of Amir Khan has got the tools to trouble Floyd.

Mayweather would not hunt him down and try and catch him with big shots. Mayweather is well able to force the pace, but its not his natural instinct. If Khan could keep it at range, he definately has the speed to trouble Mayweather getting in and out.

This is how everyone believes Khan should fight, but obviously its easier said than done.

cowzerp

Exactly who i was thinking of, I don't think his discipline would last for 12 rounds to not get his chin hit a few times and i can't see him withstanding it.

Jayob10 wrote: »

Thats a terrific synopsis Cowzerp, you are spot on.

Posters on here will know i'm no fan of this particular fighter i'm about to mention, but I'm gunna go for it anyways, style's make fights and all that.

Amir Khan, albeit a polished version of Amir Khan has got the tools to trouble Floyd.

Mayweather would not hunt him down and try and catch him with big shots. Mayweather is well able to force the pace, but its not his natural instinct. If Khan could keep it at range, he definately has the speed to trouble Mayweather getting in and out.

This is how everyone believes Khan should fight, but obviously its easier said than done.

Ghost.

I tgink a 1999/2000 Oscar would be too good for a WW Floyd.

Id agree with that.

Anyway, what's all this rubbish about people saying MP would have to get inside to beat Mayweather? lolwut. Have people here watched Pacquiao fight? He NEVER fights on the inside. Pac is a mid-range, aggressive, counterpunching boxer-puncher. Not an inside fighter.

Its not rubbish. Thats what a lot of people think MP would have to do to beat Mayweather. I think most people have watched him fight!! He is well capable of doing it when he wants.

If Khan hadnt such a dodgey chin I agree he would be able to win a fight with Mayweather at range, probably the only person around at the moment who could. He has good skills but as it stands he would just get KTFO no matter how polished he is because would get hit on the button with Mayweather.

cowzerp

Ghost. wrote: »

Id agree with that.

You'd be wrong!

Ghost. wrote: »

Its not rubbish. Thats what a lot of people think MP would have to do to beat Mayweather. I think most people have watched him fight!! He is well capable of doing it when he wants.

Manny is not an inside fighter and Floyd is the greatest inside fighter around-Beating him inside is not going to happen unless you're way stronger which nobody is near his weight, Canelo would be but just too slow to make it an inside fight and not defensively cute enough.

Manny would eat Right hands all day and Floyd is all wrong for him.

walshb

I still reckon Floyd would completely upset Khan's rhythm and timing. But yes, a fighter like Khan would pose issues. Floyd also has enough pop to hurt Khan.