Another Tesco (Express) for Rathmines, Frankfort Ave/Upr Rathmines Centra

eqwjewoiujqorj

Rathmines has come great competition now - Dunnes Stores, Aldi, Lidl, Tesco.

Not open yet, but they have the tesco signs up.

The Centra is only closed a month or so - they moved quick.

Late shopper won't last much longer.

http://g.co/maps/rts4m

bc dub

yay, more corperative multiantionals on our main street.

eqwjewoiujqorj

Independent shops are just useless, I don't see them making a big effort with local produce / irish goods.


Most of them are under the Spar / Centra umbrella anyway - hardly independent / local.

Rochester

The Late Shopper is independently run and has strong local support but I suppose Tesco with its cheap booze and loss leaders will wreck their business.:mad:

Gavin "shels"

bc dub wrote: »

yay, more corperative multiantionals on our main street.

Aka more jobs! :rolleyes:

Kooli

Rochester wrote: »

The Late Shopper is independently run and has strong local support but I suppose Tesco with its cheap booze and loss leaders will wreck their business.:mad:

I never went to Centra because i wanted to support Late Shopper - nice shop, really nice staff, and nice to have just ONE shop that isn't centra/spar/londis

I really hope tesco doesn't swallow them up. There is absolutely no need for one in that strip.

bc dub

Gavin shels wrote: »

Aka more jobs! :rolleyes:

Its not about a quick fix here. Yay a few new jobs, for now. But how many will be lost if the Late Shopper has to close? Or the centra? Or field & vine? Or when they under price all the beer in O'Briens with loss leading alcohol? Or lawlors meats? This is happening all over Ireland with the influx of these tesco expresses. Every shopkeeper in Ireland hears masive alarm bells if there's a sniff of a tesco opening up nearby. This has a knock on affect to not just local independently owned stores, but the stores they buy their stock from.

Tesco are nothing more then parasites on local communities imo. As stated there is no need here for another convenience store let alone a feicin tesco.

eqwjewoiujqorj

Tesco opens this Friday 13th January.

irishguy

bc dub wrote: »

Its not about a quick fix here. Yay a few new jobs, for now. But how many will be lost if the Late Shopper has to close? Or the centra? Or field & vine? Or when they under price all the beer in O'Briens with loss leading alcohol? Or lawlors meats? This is happening all over Ireland with the influx of these tesco expresses. Every shopkeeper in Ireland hears masive alarm bells if there's a sniff of a tesco opening up nearby. This has a knock on affect to not just local independently owned stores, but the stores they buy their stock from.

Tesco are nothing more then parasites on local communities imo. As stated there is no need here for another convenience store let alone a feicin tesco.

The stores should try and compete then and stop crying about it.

tiredcity

Ah this is crap news. I lived around the corner for years and loved that little stretch of shops 'cause it was so rare to have anything like that around Dublin. My reasoning is pretty biased cause i'm a coeliac but the likes of Field & Vine and Lawlors (lovely GF sausages and bagels!) were way, way better for getting specialist food than the Tesco down the road or Aldi/Lidl. The staff in Late Shopper are absolutely lovely, they try to price a lot of items competitively and they always had whatever random stuff I'd need for college so I'd always pop in there too. Yes, it was slightly more expensive but I still managed just fine on a tiny budget despite choosing to shop in the independent shops rather than Tesco Rathmines where the "fresh" veg always seemed to have decayed by the time you'd walked home with it. I might have bought less but I enjoyed it more. The Aldi - to be fair - is also very good but it was a significantly longer walk to haul the week's groceries! I still dream of Lawlor's amazing lamb & mint kebabs, might have to take a trip back over that way when it's BBQ season.

Rathgar has a lovely community atmosphere about it. You can tell people are really interested in food and that's allowed the survival of such good speciality shops. Obviously with Trinity Halls up the road and a significant student population around the area anyway, Tesco Express will do flying business, but it'd be horrible if that occurs at the expense of the other gems on that patch. I know that if you're trying to feed a whole family on a budget, your priorities are entirely different but it seems a shame that both types of shop can't co-exist more sustainably.

bc dub

irishguy wrote: »

The stores should try and compete then and stop crying about it.

:rolleyes:

They're not crying about it. I am.

shellyb73

How close is this store to the current Rathmines store does anyone know?

eqwjewoiujqorj

642m

Victor

I can see them temporarily closing the main Rathmines shop and redeveloping the site to add more parking and floor space.

Alcohol isn't a loss leader (certain lines may be). Talking to a Tesco manager from a different store, half their profits were coming from alcohol - it doesn't take much floor space and is relatively high priced compared to say milk or orange juice. And people don't buy slabs of orange juice.

eqwjewoiujqorj wrote: »

Rathmines has come great competition now - Dunnes Stores, Aldi, Lidl, Tesco.

Also Superquinn Rathgar and Kimmage.

Giblet

That little stretch of shops is great, Tesco actually stuck out like a sore thumb.

ScouseMouse

irishguy wrote: »

The stores should try and compete then and stop crying about it.

Small irish stores compete with one of the worlds biggest retailers?

Hmmmm, how exactly do you suggest they do that?

They can just drop their prices below cost and wipe out the competition then they can do what they like.

Just look at the UK. Most small privately owned stores are gone and so are the jobs, the variety, the service.

cgarrad

Tesco FTW

Fresher produce at lower prices.

Why do other shops shut when they move in?

Because they are better. There is no other explanation.

Late shopper will be closed in 6 months, Field & Vine and Lawlors should be fine if the differentiate them selves enough. If not they to will shut.

Is it a loss if a butcher that sell produce that is marginally better than Tescos shuts?

Boulevardier

Late Shopper seemingly saw off the last shop on that site. There is no need whatever for another Tesco on that road.

Where I would welcome another Tesco, or anyone else, is in the sadly abandoned site on Rathgar Road across from the Three Patrons church.

MadsL

Illegal fabric banner on the side of that Centra - par for the course for Centra franchises.

eqwjewoiujqorj

MadsL wrote: »

Illegal fabric banner on the side of that Centra - par for the course for Centra franchises.

That Centra is now closed - that's where the new Tesco is located.

eqwjewoiujqorj

Flyer from Tesco today.

4 Euro off when you spend 12 euro.

cgarrad

Butchers trying to up their game, everybody wins except the owners of poor quality stores that think they have a right to prevent shops like Tesco opening.

Scheme for top butchers

irishguy

bc dub wrote: »

:rolleyes:

They're not crying about it. I am.

Well you should stop crying about it then. If they offer a service, be a high quality product/service or low price service and there is a market for it then they will be fine.

The stores that offer the same stuff as everyone else and charge a premium which is the case with a lot of stores in Ireland deserve to go out of business.

The buying power of Centra aka Musgrave isnt that small they has sales of €4.4B last year they just have to compete. Look at the Butlers pantry, Donnybrook fair Avoca none of them are cheap but they all supply a niche market.

Centra type stores also supplied a niche, convenience over price. Now the consumer is very price conscious so Centra type stores need to find another niche or go out of business. Its the cold truth of business.

bc dub

Its ok, I only whinge online. I havent set foot in any sort of Tesco for near 18months now. I'll continue to support local stores and local people.