Drico to write Autobiography..

durkadurka

I don't believe what I'm reading

godtabh

durkadurka wrote: »

I don't believe what I'm reading

Thats because it hasnt been written yet.

What kind of money would he get for that and does he get it tax free as a current player?

CatFromHue

pickarooney wrote: »

Has anyone ever read a good biog of someone who hasn't been a gambling addict or a bigamist or had children kidnapped?

I enjoyed Richard Branson's biography alot. None of the above things happened to him but still reading how he started companies and made them a success was breath taking.

Success doesn't always come from heartbreak. Finding out why people have made themselves so successful by various steps/actions and why they took those steps/actions is pretty interesting to me.

Amazotheamazing

I'd love if BOD totally trolls the **** out of the book.

Things like, "After the Grandslam year in 2009 we were all pretty high and pretty sure it was our RWC, then Kidney ****ed with the formula and brought in Sexton, who's only a 35% Int kicker, I begged him, literally begged him to bring back in my good friend, and sometime male model, Ronan O'Gara but Kidney was adamant. All mind games he explained, the opposition need to be kept on their toes. It was then I considered beating him to death with his shoes, looking back at it now, I should have."

Or

"frankly, I've never rated Munster, either as a place or as a team, with the exception of my good friend, and sometime male model, Ronan O'Gara. Looking back, I think I lost to them so many times in my 20's because it was impossible not to hit Coppers for a few brewskis on the night before the match. In 2006, they actually found me in a gutter on one of those lanes between Coppers and Camden street 45 minutes before the game. I was totally certain we'd win."

Eoin

I know he says he'll have retired when it's published, but I'd be more interested in reading it a few years after he retires, when he's had a bit more time to reflect on everything. I doubt the commercial realities will allow for that though.

godtabh wrote: »

What kind of money would he get for that and does he get it tax free as a current player?

The 40% tax repayment (it's not completely tax free) doesn't cover endorsements etc.

chevy

I hope its better than his first book. I couldn't even finish it.:(

GerM

pickarooney wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't wish that on anyone but if he had had it it would be more of a selling point.

Has anyone ever read a good biog of someone who hasn't been a gambling addict or a bigamist or had children kidnapped?

You need to read more.

totallegend

Eoin wrote: »

The 40% tax repayment (it's not completely tax free) doesn't cover endorsements etc.

No, but writing is subject to the artists' tax exemption, so he will pay zero tax on the first 50k of income from the book. Ridiculous system but there it is.

Edit: It's actually the first 40k.

JustinDee

totallegend wrote: »

No, but writing is subject to the artists' tax exemption, so he will pay zero tax on the first 50k of income from the book. Ridiculous system but there it is.

Edit: It's actually the first 40k.

Not applicable to biographies and autobiographies.

phog

JustinDee wrote: »

Not applicable to biographies and autobiographies.

I thought Bertie got an exemption for his book? I know there was a change but I thought it was around the tax break could only be a max of a certain percentage of your yearly earnings.

pickarooney

CatFromHue wrote: »

I enjoyed Richard Branson's biography alot. None of the above things happened to him but still reading how he started companies and made them a success was breath taking.

Success doesn't always come from heartbreak. Finding out why people have made themselves so successful by various steps/actions and why they took those steps/actions is pretty interesting to me.

Completely different scenario. BOD's story, in contrast with his talent, is nothing exceptional. If he were somehow able to explain how he came to have that talent, as Branson details how he acquired his wealth, there would be a story there.

JustinDee

phog wrote: »

I thought Bertie got an exemption for his book? I know there was a change but I thought it was around the tax break could only be a max of a certain percentage of your yearly earnings.

He got his, thats for sure. Probably for the work being fiction . . . boom boom ha!*






*Notice that they've changed it since I last looked at it (family member published a book some years ago hence my dipsy knowledge on subject). Used to be non-biographical. Now its any publication on more than three copies.

mikedragon32

We're drifting waaay off-topic now, but surely Kimmage as the person who will actually be writing the book gets the excemption?

SomeFool

pickarooney wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't wish that on anyone but if he had had it it would be more of a selling point.

Has anyone ever read a good biog of someone who hasn't been a gambling addict or a bigamist or had children kidnapped?

You could start with Kimmages own story, very interesting book, I like him as a writer, there is the potential for a great book between the two of them.

Cpt_Blackbeard

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

I'd love if BOD totally trolls the **** out of the book.

Things like, "After the Grandslam year in 2009 we were all pretty high and pretty sure it was our RWC, then Kidney ****ed with the formula and brought in Sexton, who's only a 35% Int kicker, I begged him, literally begged him to bring back in my good friend, and sometime male model, Ronan O'Gara but Kidney was adamant. All mind games he explained, the opposition need to be kept on their toes. It was then I considered beating him to death with his shoes, looking back at it now, I should have."

It would absolutely fantastic, if ROG was referred to in this manor throughout the book.

GerM

pickarooney wrote: »

Completely different scenario. BOD's story, in contrast with his talent, is nothing exceptional. If he were somehow able to explain how he came to have that talent, as Branson details how he acquired his wealth, there would be a story there.

I'm sure he'll delve into that in relation to his development. He was a kid who couldn't make his JCT side or SCT in 5th year to playing in a WC for Ireland 3 years later. BOD has come through plenty of hard times in both his professional and personal life which have been well documented. Whether he chooses to go into it in his book is his choice. With Kimmage at the helm, teasing the information out in his typical manner, I would fully expect to see mention of his life under the microscope, the abuse of him by the public and media, Barry Twomey's suicide and also the actual low points of his professional career.

Adversity or a hard luck story is far from necessary to make a good book. Dallaglio came through some awful times in his personal life and controversy in his career to be the player he was in 2003 but his book was dull and poorly written. Moss Keane was successful in everything he did and loved by all but his book was one of the best sporting biographies I've read.

BOD has a huge amount of material to draw on and with Kimmage's interviewing and writing abilities, I'm confident this book is going to be a very interesting read. If you're looking for drama, you're better off with fiction. If you want an honest, blunt and revealing account of Brian O'Driscoll's career, then Paul Kimmage's book is for you.

Zuffer

Matt Williams, a couple of months ago, wrote in his Irish Times column that BOD is the hardest working player he's ever known. A couple of years ago a coach who had been involved in the Leinster set up said the exact same thing to us at training.

I'd imagine that it is not a coincidence that the hardest working player (amongst his peers at least) is also the greatest player of his generation. I'd hope that the book captures some element of that, to help inspire the rest of us ordinary mortals.

ktulu123

Not sure where else to put this but its absolutely brilliant:

http://media.todayfm.com/podcast/51203/

Brendog

Definitly getting this. Should be a great read and a great insight into the life of, in my opinion, Ireland greatest sportsman ever

durkadurka

this is worth a listen




http://media.todayfm.com/podcast/51203/

CatFromHue

ktulu123 wrote: »

Not sure where else to put this but its absolutely brilliant:

http://media.todayfm.com/podcast/51203/

durkadurka wrote: »

this is worth a listen




http://media.todayfm.com/podcast/51203/

I liked ROG in that!

durkadurka

CatFromHue wrote: »

I liked ROG in that!

Trying to get the word 'greatest' out.

The hook description is stunning in its accuracy

CatFromHue

durkadurka wrote: »

Trying to get the word 'greatest' out.

The hook description is stunning in its accuracy

Him telling stringer to pass the ball to him and why in the Grand Slam decider game was very good too.

Clearlier

chevy wrote: »

I hope its better than his first book. I couldn't even finish it.:(

Was that his diary?

There was another book on him called "In BOD we trust" - one of the worst books I've ever read. BOD had nothing to do with its publication though.

I'll be interested to read this when it comes out.

I've only flicked through DOC's book in the airport but his story about EOS bawling him out of it because he took the ball on in a training drill when the 'designated ball carrier' was stuck on the ground opened my eyes as to just how controlling Eddie was.

ROG's biography was interesting because it gave an insight in to how he thinks rather than anything he said in it.

I'd be interested in reading Woody's autobiography if he were ever to write one. Ger Hartmann described him as the toughest patient he ever had. He also clearly thought about things.

Cool_CM

ktulu123 wrote: »

Not sure where else to put this but its absolutely brilliant:

http://media.todayfm.com/podcast/51203/

That's brilliant!

Ash.J.Williams

Kimmage has resigned.......interesting

.ak

Alan English is taking over from what I hear.

Ash.J.Williams

.ak wrote: »

Alan English is taking over from what I hear.

Wonder what happened

Giruilla

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Wonder what happened

Always thought it was strange for Kimmage to be writing a book on the subject anyway based on his anti doping crusade past.

Ash.J.Williams

he's also on record on saying drico is a bore, who never deviates from script.

however that's just good career management.

Larbre34

He has written some enjoyable books and some not enjoyable columns, but from his own media appearances Kimmage would strike me as a very very difficult man to deal with and I imagine his ego gets in the way of a lot of things.

Diabhal Beag

He must have spotted a Lance book on BOD's shelf.

Sandwlch

Giruilla wrote: »

Always thought it was strange for Kimmage to be writing a book on the subject anyway based on his anti doping crusade past.

because...... ?

phog

No idea why Kimmage left but Alan English is a good writer and imho would have a better rugby knowledge.

radharc

Never thought they were a good match in the first place.

Just speculating but would imagine Kimmage became frustrated at the lack of 'scoops' or really insightful commentary from Drico who has always been fairly diplomatic and guarded imo.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

radharc wrote: »

Never thought they were a good match in the first place.

Just speculating but would imagine Kimmage became frustrated at the lack of 'scoops' or really insightful commentary from Drico who has always been fairly diplomatic and guarded imo.

Yep, that's what I thought. Maybe Kimmage didn't want to write it if he felt Drico was being overly diplomatic

Buer

Kimmage wrote Matt Hampson's book which wasn't exactly packed with controversial material.

Going on his Twitter comments, Kimmage resigned before he was pushed.

phog

Looking at a screenshot of Kimmage's tweets from last Friday you could get the impression that he knew last week he was on the way out and waited until his replacement was selected.

Mr Boom Boom

radharc wrote: »

Never thought they were a good match in the first place.

Just speculating but would imagine Kimmage became frustrated at the lack of 'scoops' or really insightful commentary from Drico who has always been fairly diplomatic and guarded imo.

Yeah. Contrary buggers the pair.

finisklin

He was keen on doing the Roy Keane one until his ambition blew up in his face. More here. Now that would have been match made in hell, 2 grumpy gits.

trackguy

BOD contrary? I wouldn't have said that.

Kimmage on the other hand...

Kimmage is a great writer but seems to fall out with a lot of people. It's a pity, I was really looking forward to this book.

I hope BOD gives an honest account. So many sports autobiographies are horribly bland.

thomond2006

I'm at an elverys event with Franno and Kimmage.

I'll post if Kimmage comments on it!

thomond2006

"not sensationalist"

CatFromHue

thomond2006 wrote: »

"not sensationalist"

What do you mean?

thomond2006

Jesus he seems really gutted!

thomond2006

Says he didn't want to ghost write again after Matt Hampson's book, took too much out of him.

thomond2006

BOD was set to do an interview with another paper. Kimmage wanted him to it with Sindo.

Both felt they were being unreasonable and they parted ways.

thomond2006

Enjoyable night overall!

What I should have said in the previous post was BOD was set to do an interview with another paper this weekend. So the falling out or whatever between the two was very recent.

durkadurka

thomond2006 wrote: »

Enjoyable night overall!

What I should have said in the previous post was BOD was set to do an interview with another paper this weekend. So the falling out or whatever between the two it was was very recent.

Seems a very trivial matter upon which to cancel a multi year project. A bit more to it I suspect.

its_phil

Yeah seems there might be more to it. It's too many years work done to throw the baby out the bathwater now.

Although BOD may be doing an interview with the Sunday Times and David Walsh and anyone who has followed Kimmage over the past year knows how the two of them have fallen out massively. Meer speculation but just a theory I thought I would offer.