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Pope giving out about those pesky gays again
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... the ideal enviroment if possible is to have a mother and father who are involved in the childs life. Anyone who denies that the natural family is blind ( and as much as gays lobby they can never naturally have kids, the pope didn't invent that rule).
Nobody is trying to take kids away from loving families and give them to gay people,so your point is rather mute. I was raised by a loving parents who were married and am happy, many of my friends were raised by single parents and they turned out brilliantly. The idea being floated, however, that gay couples should not be allowed to apply to adopt children in need of a home is what is wrong.
Here is a study from the American Academy of Pediatrics which finds same sex parents (lesbian couples for this study) raise kids fine. In fact, their kids on average done better than other kids in may areas although we can let that slide
The point is, people should be treated equally and so should families, even if they do not meet the favoured model of the Vatican or any other religious leader.0 -
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I'd love the opportunity to interview the Protector of Paedophiles Everywhere and ask him some questions no one has ever asked him before. The guy is always on about sex, although I suspect he knows less about it than the average Inuit knows about banana farming, so why shouldn't I ask him things like where he stands on guys waxing the carrot, has he ever bashed the bishop himself, when did he give it up ...
The only way to deal with nutters like him is to treat them as a big joke.
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Imagine being so doubtful of your own argument that you need to create a second account to agree with yourself... classic..
That's the benefit of 'faith' in what you want to believe, as it's whatever you want it to be, for as long as you want it to be what you want it to be, and then you can change sides and make hay all over again. Yep, it's win, win, win, even if you sin, sin, sin....all the way to the Vatican bank (even if usury is still officially regarded as being heresy, and against the Pope's teachings) In the Council of Vienne (1311) it was declared that if any person obstinately maintained that there was no sin in the practice of demanding interest, he should be punished as a heretic (see c. "Ex gravi", unic. Clem., "De usuris", V, 5).
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15235c.htm
The don't actually doubt anything they do, as they can rely on it 100% as it works all the time, and they have perfected it as an artform. Take a look at all the gold and glitz, palaces, banks, property owned by the various religions. Basically, it simply means that the 'House' always wins no matter which way you roll the dice. Isn't 'morality' great when you want to sit high on a fence and poop on everyone below?
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Congrats.. But the statics don't live up to your post. Those who society has most failed have first been failed by their families (or lack of). The Pope is promoting the family (Mother+Father+Kids) as the ideal best environment. there is nothing wrong with this.
Mother plus child = Family
Father plus child = Family
Mother plus Mother plus child = Family.
Father plus Father plus child = Family.
I even know a Lesbian Granny plus Grandson = Family (and the only one he ever had as father in jail and mother did a runner from the maternity hospital Granny went and brought him home - she is currently trying to legally adopt him.)
There is nothing wrong with any of them.
Families come in all shapes and sizes and can fail whether they are headed by hetrosexuals or homosexuals.
Difference is, gay parents are unlikely to have to get married because of of them is pregnant ('are you sure you're a man?' 'absolutely - but that's the wrong hole.' '?') or end up having a child by accident (the turkey baster slipped
).
When an openly gay person has a child it is because that child is truly wanted.
Gay people I know have spend fortunes on insemination, months selecting donors and years trying (and sometimes succeeding ) to get pregnant. No drunken one night stands here.
Others who were able to conceive but did adopt were assesses, and reassess and rereassessed by countless social workers - in one case the adoption proceedings went all the way to the Old Bailey in London after a two year, horrendously expensive, struggle up the court system. The judge granted the adoption - but only to one of the couple as a gay couple can't adopt but a single person can.
So, despite the fact this now 2 year old child lived with the couple her biological parents had chosen as their preferred adoptive parents, a couple who had not only had been present at her birth - one of them was her first person to hold her, a couple who were the only parents she knew who had nursed her through many sleepless nights due to the serious medical conditions she had from birth - in short they were her parent- despite all of this according to the law, the child was legally the child of a lone parent as it would not allow her to have two gay parents.0 -
Teach a man to fish Dades....
Yeah...but teach a man to pray and he'll bother someone else with his problems.
A big plus for religion.
Side note : God sure does have a lot of rules regarding stuff he has never experienced, or would ever need to, should he exist. Almost.....just almost, makes you think that all this stuff was made u by....I don't know....dudes.0 -
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The catholic church is full of hypocrisy imo.
A fine piece of understatement.:)It was perfectly fine for catholic priests to have homosexual urges when they raped young boys but not for normal run of the mill gays and lesbians to have the same rights as far as marriage is concerned in most parts of the world.
Your heart is in the right place, but I believe you are confusing homosexuals, whose sexual partners are usually consenting adults, with paedophiles who rape children.Just because you fall in love with a member of the same sex it doesn't mean you should be punished for it.
I completely agree, but again do not make the mistake of equating same-sex couples who are in love with each other with paedophile priests, who are not in love with anything but themselves and are driven solely by their own lust for power and sexual gratification. It's a pity that Ratzi fails to see and admire the love that makes same-sex couples want to marry, at the same time as he protects those of his underlings who prey on children.:cool:0 -
A fine piece of understatement.:)
Your heart is in the right place, but I believe you are confusing homosexuals, whose sexual partners are usually consenting adults, with paedophiles who rape children.
I completely agree, but again do not make the mistake of equating same-sex couples who are in love with each other with paedophile priests, who are not in love with anything but themselves and are driven solely by their own lust for power and sexual gratification. It's a pity that Ratzi fails to see and admire the love that makes same-sex couples want to marry, at the same time as he protects those of his underlings who prey on children.:cool:
on that note - just saw this:The Catholic Church’s pedophilia investigator, in charge of child protection and interviewing adults who as children had been victims of pedophile priests today was jailed on pedophilia charges in England. 49-year old Christopher Jarvis, a married man with four children of his own, began serving his 12-month sentence after serving the Catholic Church for nine years in a dioscese that included 120 Catholic Churches. Jarvis admitted to the charges, which included possession of 4000 images of pre-pubescent boys, including several depicting sadism, child rape, and torture.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/catholic-churchs-pedophilia-investigator-in-charge-of-child-protection-jailed-for-pedophilia/news/2011/11/14/301720 -
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