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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    I think thats the only thing they have done :D
    Schreier is by far the best asset they have but his work goes beyond the Bioware articles.

    There's a list of the features he's written for the site on his own website, the majority of which are well worth a read.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    I think thats the only thing they have done

    No, Schreier has definetly done more articles like that. He was the guy that did the Rockstar crunch story 6 months ago just before RDR2 released & wrote a book on game development stories.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Jason "Big boobs are for pedophiles" Schreier https://archive.is/S5Y6l / https://www.neogaf.com/threads/george-kamitani-responds-to-kotaku.547884/page-22#post-55704184

    Lies about his poll results that show users wanted to talk about NDAs and incestuous journo/publishers relations - deflects it saying it's all about reviews: https://archive.fo/729HN

    His interview with YongYea is the biggest reveal of his character and intent.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Schreier's got a long standing reputation as a respected games journalist, I don't know why anyone would be daft enough to question that unless they have no idea what they're talking about :P He's one of a very small number of actual journalists I could name in the gaming space (the others being Richard Lewis and Slasher/Rod Breslau and I don't think either of them work as journalists any more cause it's almost impossible to be a real journalist in that space).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Shiminay wrote: »
    Schreier's got a long standing reputation as a respected games journalist, I don't know why anyone would be daft enough to question that unless they have no idea what they're talking about :P He's one of a very small number of actual journalists I could name in the gaming space (the others being Richard Lewis and Slasher/Rod Breslau and I don't think either of them work as journalists any more cause it's almost impossible to be a real journalist in that space).

    But... but... ethics in games journalism!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    But... but... ethics in games journalism!!!

    Do you not believe people writing about games need to be held to an ethical standard?

    I believe anyone givin a platform like that should be accountable,just like in mainstream media.

    If you slack off in one area of journalism whats to stop the rest following?

    We could totally devalue the word journalist,that would solve it. Then theres no associated standard there. But if i see someone describe themselves as a journalist,regardless of field,i would expect a certain standard.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    It'd be nice to have a legit discussion about the subject, but we all know that's impossible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    EoinHef wrote: »
    Do you not believe people writing about games need to be held to an ethical standard?

    I believe anyone givin a platform like that should be accountable,just like in mainstream media.

    If you slack off in one area of journalism whats to stop the rest following?

    We could totally devalue the word journalist,that would solve it. Then theres no associated standard there. But if i see someone describe themselves as a journalist,regardless of field,i would expect a certain standard.

    Honestly, I'm going to always take most industry journalism with a healthy dose of cynicism because of the back and forth they'll have to do to keep themselves in favour with the corporations and PR companies that rule their industry so that they can get access to the information and interviews that will get them the clicks. So I'd include gaming, music, movie, car and sports journalism in that.

    That said, Schreier's recent pieces on BioWare were really interesting but they'll be dismissed out of hand by some because he said something about not liking bit tits in Dragon's Crown...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,475 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    To be fair, Kotaku has a pretty strong reputation for adversarial journalism dating back before they hired Schreier. Their various blacklistings from gaming companies over the years is testament to that. I fully agree that Schreier is their best asset at the moment - I mean, as Shiminay alluded to, there’s not really any other gaming journalist out there producing consistent and regular and well-sourced investigative journalism (not that it doesn’t exist!), so that alone puts Kotaku top of the food chain in gaming outlets. That stuff costs a lot of time and resources, so their regular blog-like / news content is pretty necessary to keep things rolling on a day-to-day basis.

    Not that journalism is all about big investigative pieces showpieces, mind you, and I give Kotaku plenty of credit for investing in strong and creative criticism and writing over the years too. Kirk Hamilton’s (who’s since departed as a staff writer to focus on his pretty great Strong Songs podcast and music career) Red Dead Redemption 2 review is only of my favourite game reviews: https://kotaku.com/red-dead-redemption-2-the-kotaku-review-1829984369


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I think shoutout to Danny O'Dywer and his NoClip series is also in order - it's definitely journalism, but of a different sort.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,475 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Shiminay wrote: »
    I think shoutout to Danny O'Dywer and his NoClip series is also in order - it's definitely journalism, but of a different sort.

    They’re doing great stuff over there, but it’s definitely different. The sort of material you get by putting developers on camera can be illuminating and insightful and extremely valuable. But in terms of digging in, finding those sources who are taking a risk in speaking out, and telling the stories that studios really don’t want told... Schreier’s leading the pack there.

    But yeah last thing I’d want to suggest is one man is defining gaming journalism or writing - there’s a lot of very fine work being done across various different sort of approaches. The folk over at Heterotopias are really doing the kind of thing I’m personally looking for - thoughtful, offbeat, in-depth critical writing. But that’s almost the opposite end of the spectrum to a Kotaku crunch expose :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Jamiekelly


    I'd rate Danny O'Dwyer over Jason Schreier any day of the week but mostly for personal reasons. I asked Jason on twitter about lootboxes in EA games (keep in mind this was around the time the whole Battlefront 2 controversy was happening) and he blocked me. No namecalling or vitriol in my tweet yet he clearly felt the question was below him. I can't respect a journalist who blocks people asking legitimate questions.

    I asked him something along the lines of "If a game is age rated 3+ shouldn't the gambling concerns far outweigh investor wants, especially in the gaming industry constantly under threat from Govt legislation because of Casino fuelled monetary tactics."

    If you look at his twitter feed you won't see a single user challenging him because he blocks anyone who asks a question that even remotely goes against his own beliefs. Also that YongYea interview he did really showed the kind of person he is, a very insecure person who needs constant positive reinforcement and if he doesn't get it he acts like a spoilt child.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Jamiekelly wrote: »
    I'd rate Danny O'Dwyer over Jason Schreier any day of the week but mostly for personal reasons. I asked Jason on twitter about lootboxes in EA games (keep in mind this was around the time the whole Battlefront 2 controversy was happening) and he blocked me. No namecalling or vitriol in my tweet yet he clearly felt the question was below him. I can't respect a journalist who blocks people asking legitimate questions.

    I asked him something along the lines of "If a game is age rated 3+ shouldn't the gambling concerns far outweigh investor wants, especially in the gaming industry constantly under threat from Govt legislation because of Casino fuelled monetary tactics."

    If you look at his twitter feed you won't see a single user challenging him because he blocks anyone who asks a question that even remotely goes against his own beliefs. Also that YongYea interview he did really showed the kind of person he is, a very insecure person who needs constant positive reinforcement and if he doesn't get it he acts like a spoilt child.

    lol, Danny blocked me.

    He jumped on the bandwagon siding with a female accuser who lashed out at her ex who was due to be married shortly :rolleyes:

    All because I said there shouldn't be a rush to convict people via social media especially when we haven't heard both sides of the story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Jason Schrier is probably the best investigative journalist working in videogames today, and one of the few telling stories that game companies don't sanction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,845 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I'd say for people with any kind of an audience on Twitter, the majority will be itchy trigger on block button due to the fact how many absolutely stalking weirdos there are on public social media. I've seen devs who make it a point to keep close communication with the fans get melted by repetitive questions, stupid input and trolling.

    On the other side though, it's disappointing when guys want everyone to listen to what they're saying but block someone from making a rational point that in anyway challenges them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,540 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Don't like Schrier but O'Dwyer is a right ****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    I think a shout out to Brad Glasgow is in order, whom Danny "no anime arse" O'Dwyer called a hack in his QnA here on boards.
    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    I'd say for people with any kind of an audience on Twitter, the majority will be itchy trigger on block button

    They use a tool that anti-gamergate types made to autoblock users. It's also hard to take any of their stalking/harassment claims seriously when they've proven to lie and exaggerate about them. Cry wolf and all that.
    All because I said there shouldn't be a rush to convict people via social media especially when we haven't heard both sides of the story.

    They rarely discuss it openly with anyone that doens't agree with them. Ignore it, silence it, counter it with tons articles that they all agree to in secret, whatever it takes to keep the narrative going.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    I'm confused, do they expect you to balance that on both people's laps to play?

    Pricing is out and it ain't cheap either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Oh God why is it shaped like the Capcom logo? Nice idea, absolutely hideous execution.

    And €230? No thanks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭megaten


    Jamiekelly wrote: »
    I'd rate Danny O'Dwyer over Jason Schreier any day of the week but mostly for personal reasons. I asked Jason on twitter about lootboxes in EA games (keep in mind this was around the time the whole Battlefront 2 controversy was happening) and he blocked me. No namecalling or vitriol in my tweet yet he clearly felt the question was below him. I can't respect a journalist who blocks people asking legitimate questions.

    I asked him something along the lines of "If a game is age rated 3+ shouldn't the gambling concerns far outweigh investor wants, especially in the gaming industry constantly under threat from Govt legislation because of Casino fuelled monetary tactics."

    If you look at his twitter feed you won't see a single user challenging him because he blocks anyone who asks a question that even remotely goes against his own beliefs. Also that YongYea interview he did really showed the kind of person he is, a very insecure person who needs constant positive reinforcement and if he doesn't get it he acts like a spoilt child.

    Why do you think people should respond to you on twitter?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,540 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    gizmo wrote: »
    I'm confused, do they expect you to balance that on both people's laps to play?

    Wouldn't think you'd want to.

    Either have it on a coffee table or in a pseudo arcade cabinet set up close to a screen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    gizmo wrote: »
    I'm confused, do they expect you to balance that on both people's laps to play?
    Considering where the HDMI cable is & that it's 2-player:
    No, I don't expect you to put it on your lap.

    Instead, you'd make/buy something like the Xtension arcade cabinet.
    Pricing is out and it ain't cheap either.
    Oh God why is it shaped like the Capcom logo? Nice idea, absolutely hideous execution.

    And €230? No thanks.

    For a semi-custom, full-Sanwa 2 player stick that is a STEAL.

    Hori sticks cost €120-140, Madcatz €130-150, and others (eTokki, Nacon, Razer) are in the €200+ range.
    For single-player sticks which are essentially just big boxes.

    To get something like this from a custom builder (e.g. b15sdm) you'd be looking at €600+


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    You're getting top of the range arcade parts and a base which is a good stand in for an arcade front panel. Might be on the steep side but you are paying a good price for quality, it's not a bad price when you consider it. Hope the emulation is good and add in possibility of modding and it could be a steal really.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Wow, that's a lot of cash for nostalgia on the Capcom thing. I've seen similar emulator pirate things popping up on Facebook ads for about the €100 mark and with a lot more games loaded in. It's a nice and cheap way to build a casual arcade cabinet I suppose if you don't mind running something completely unofficial :D

    EDIT: Hadn't spotted that it was made with the top tier parts mentioned. I acknowledge that it's not bad money for the quality of the product but still a lot of money for a casual purchase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Considering where the HDMI cable is & that it's 2-player:
    No, I don't expect you to put it on your lap.

    Instead, you'd make/buy something like the Xtension arcade cabinet.
    The arcade cabinet crowd is a good shout actually. I was mainly thinking about the target audience for this kind of product and all I could really come up with were the folk who have a suitable coffee table between their couch and TVs, a group I wouldn't have considered to be particularly large?
    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    For a semi-custom, full-Sanwa 2 player stick that is a STEAL.

    Hori sticks cost €120-140, Madcatz €130-150, and others (eTokki, Nacon, Razer) are in the €200+ range.
    For single-player sticks which are essentially just big boxes.

    To get something like this from a custom builder (e.g. b15sdm) you'd be looking at €600+
    I definitely wouldn't consider it expensive when you consider what you'll likely be getting* but again on the target audience subject, I would imagine much of the market for "retro consoles" would look at it quite differently? And those who wouldn't would mainly be served by having their own arcade sticks and less *ahem* legitimate means of emulation?



    * You can pry my SFIV TE stick from my cold dead hands


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,993 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    As someone who loves arcade machines and has owned quite a few in my time, please, PLEASE for the sake of humanity, nobody buy one of these and bolt it to a machine.

    You'll be featured in 'MAME of shame' threads in arcade forums all over the internet.

    ...I'll personally make sure of it :pac:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I'd say if you were going to do that, you'd be better off jig-sawing/routering out a hole to simply slot it into and applying a proper finish to it so it wouldn't get scratched to hell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    o1s1n wrote: »
    As someone who loves arcade machines and has owned quite a few in my time, please, PLEASE for the sake of humanity, nobody buy one of these and bolt it to a machine.

    You'll be featured in 'MAME of shame' threads in arcade forums all over the internet.

    ...I'll personally make sure of it :pac:
    Why so? Wire it up to a nice widescreen monitor, get yourself a nice glossy yellow, white and blue colour scheme on the cabinet and you're good to go.


    ...no?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    o1s1n wrote: »
    As someone who loves arcade machines and has owned quite a few in my time, please, PLEASE for the sake of humanity, nobody buy one of these and bolt it to a machine.

    You'll be featured in 'MAME of shame' threads in arcade forums all over the internet.

    ...I'll personally make sure of it :pac:

    Mate I'm gonna save up & make you cry :pac:


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