Would you take 'any job' ?

Stiffler2

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

would you work as a chicken sexer? http://www.mymajors.com/careers-and-jobs/Chicken-Sexer

erm - no

cena

i would take a job in the nypd or fdny if i was asked. I would not say no. I know you would be putting your life at risk but these would be my dream jobs. more the nypd

OldNotWIse

Stiffler2 wrote: »

My Dream Job :

Taosaich
Dictator
Porn Fluffer
Titty Jiggler
Gyno
Sniper for US Army
WW2 Historian
Coffe Shop Amsterdam
Coffe Shop California

or if I wanted a job without having to do any work :

Public Sector - Ireland
Eircom

Jobs I wouldn't do because "I am better than that" :

Bin Man
McDonalds or any of these types of chains
Supermarkets
Moderator on boards
Anything to do with the public bar jobs located in "Dream Jobs" above
Toilet Cleaner
Sewers Cleaner
Packing Fudge at the Fudge Packing Plant - http://reason.com/assets/mc/psuderman/2010_07/RomneyFudge.jpg

There's more, just can't think of more right now

Moderator on boards? Ouch I worked in McD's (Tallaght) when I was 16 (just summer and the occasional weekend) and I guess loo cleaning falls into this as I often ended up cleaning the toilets. My turning point was when I found myself staring at a black pube (sorry) in a urinal and nearly passing out with the smell of ajax. Still...it gave me a good hard dose of reality and has made every job since look better Plus returning to 4th year with like a grand in my bank account was pretty sweet I figure its one t-shirt I am proud of. Is the fudge packing er..actual fudge packing?

Nothingbetter2d

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Would that also involve (as I suspect) chucking the poor unfortunate males into grinders? Sorry but dont want to follow the link just in case

If so, no (not because I feel its beneath me but because I could not bring myself to be this cruel)

lol just click the link and read the full job description and educational requirements... you get a good laugh out of it.

Nothingbetter2d

cena wrote: »

i would take a job in the nypd or fdny if i was asked. I would not say no. I know you would be putting your life at risk but these would be my dream jobs. more the nypd

in NYPD u'd get fat from eating Donuts and drinking Coffee all day

previous user

plenty of jobs in McDonalds.

promethius42

If a legal job is there to be done then whether you like it or not, you should do it and use it to get you off the ground for you search for better jobs.

The Big Red Button

AngryPensioner wrote: »

This attitude annoys me tbh. You are above no job assuming you are capable for work. If I was in power, I would abolish social welfare for well bodied adults and set up a charity for less fortunate people.

I have a Masters Degree in Science and I would still shovel **** for some money. Education isn't an excuse for not contributing to the economy. This attitude of expecting tax payers to fund your ego is immoral. I would not expect others to pay for my dole year on year.

I guess I am simply too principled to agree with this attitude I was brought up to never accept handouts. There is a difference between a real dole recipient and somebody who believes jobs are above them.

Ah it's not that I think I'm "above" any job. Like I said, I've done them all.

As I said, I've been working since I was 14, and I took any job I could get, I've never been in a position where I had to take social welfare.

I guess I'm just lucky that I'm working in a field where, if I lost my job, I wouldn't have any trouble getting in a job in Ireland or anywhere else in the world. I made sure of that when I was choosing my course etc. I guess it's easy to be principled and to say that I wouldn't accept a job outside my field, when I know that it's not going to come down to that!

OldNotWIse

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

lol just click the link and read the full job description and educational requirements... you get a good laugh out of it.

Ok done Some funny ones on there. I think banana grader is actually my vocation...
(Cue the joke about the banana grader who was sacked for throwing out the crooked ones)

Stiffler2

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Moderator on boards? Ouch I worked in McD's (Tallaght) when I was 16 (just summer and the occasional weekend) and I guess loo cleaning falls into this as I often ended up cleaning the toilets. My turning point was when I found myself staring at a black pube (sorry) in a urinal and nearly passing out with the smell of ajax. Still...it gave me a good hard dose of reality and has made every job since look better Plus returning to 4th year with like a grand in my bank account was pretty sweet I figure its one t-shirt I am proud of. Is the fudge packing er..actual fudge packing?

Oh - the fudge packing job certainly does exist. Are you familiar with those orange tiny fudge bars you can purchase in shops.

Well that product does need to be packed into boxes so if you work for Cadbury's and end up in the fudge and box section you can tell your mates you're a fudge packer !!

OldNotWIse

Stiffler2 wrote: »

Oh - the fudge packing job certainly does exist. Are you familiar with those orange tiny fudge bars you can purchase in shops.

Well that product does need to be packed into boxes so if you work for Cadbury's and end up in the fudge and box section you can tell your mates you're a fudge packer !!

hahahaha...I think I would do it just so I could use that as an ice breaker at the pub lol

AngryPensioner

Sleepy wrote: »

Honestly? While I'm not overly fussy about the type of work I'd be doing, I couldn't see myself working for less than my dole "entitlements" which, given my current circumstances as the sole earner in a co-habiting couple renting a 3 bedroom house in Dublin, would currently be the equivalent of about a 43k a year or so job.

Sorry to be crass, but I am guessing you are a civil servant/public sector worker? No wonder the place is fcuked. We have bred a nation of people who would rather sit on the dole then help out and improve the state of the place.

Nyan Cat

depends how you define 'within reason' <- to me that means nothing like selling yourself, professional thief :rolleyes: etc.

id do cleaning and the like.

im not suited to sales work or dealing with the public - i mean, i wouldnt even be hired. id give it a go though.

i have done manual labour in the past (on site landscape stuff - moving concrete slabs etc - i was a strong young one for a girl)
and i have done carer work - i dont consider it a bad job. someone has to do it

and i AM educated. you have to be realistic though.

seamus

I'd take any job that I'd be remotely good at. Cleaner, probably not so much. Not for the cleaning aspect for the fact that I would become so mind-numbingly bored that I would end up doing a half-assed job. Couldn't do any kind of sales. I'd just be terrible at it, I'm too honest for sales.

But binman, builder's labourer, checkout operator, no problem if I was stuck.

I would draw a line at anything which involved killing animals or handling meat products.

OldNotWIse

Sleepy wrote: »

Honestly? While I'm not overly fussy about the type of work I'd be doing, I couldn't see myself working for less than my dole "entitlements" which, given my current circumstances as the sole earner in a co-habiting couple renting a 3 bedroom house in Dublin, would currently be the equivalent of about a 43k a year or so job.

43k? Eh???

SeaFields

I am doing it at the moment from my own point of view. Working part time retail, in a pharmacy. Don't like it but its a means to an end at the moment. Will keep trying to get a job in what was related to my college education but at least it keeps me off the dole and pays the bills.

Sales I would be brutal at. Don't have the personality for it, i'm usually a cranky bollocks

Sleepy

AngryPensioner wrote: »

Sorry to be crass, but I am guessing you are a civil servant/public sector worker? No wonder the place is fcuked. We have bred a nation of people who would rather sit on the dole then help out and improve the state of the place.

OldNotWize wrote:

43k? Eh???

The tax and welfare systems in this country treat co-habiting couples differently: on welfare they treat you as if you're married so were I out of work I could claim JSB/JSA for myself, my fiancée and our two kids. Working, I just get a single persons tax credit.

The Department of Welfare will pay rent on a 3 bedroom property with a rent of up to €1,050 a month for a couple with 2 kids. You pay €35 a week of this yourself and they pick up the rest.

Added to our fairly generous JSB/JSA rates (and not even factoring in the value of a medical card / back-to-school payments etc.) the last time I calculated it (some time last year), I worked out that if I earned anything below 43k a year gross, I'd be worse off working than on the dole.

AngryPensioner - nope, not PS, one of those actually improving things in a small firm that export software and consultancy services to the UK market.

Assuming your name is accurate, we're actually ****ed because your generation raised and elected a bunch of fvcking morons and tolerated a nod&wink culture of political corruption. We could also mention the tantrums thrown when some of the trinkets those idiots gave you were attempted to be taken back but hey, lets not get into generalisations, eh?

I'm not about to quit my job, I've educated myself and worked hard at a career that has me to the point where I can earn enough to make it worth my while here or damn near three times my salary should I not be able to find work in Ireland and move my family to the UK.

If I weren't in a position to do that, however, I wouldn't accept work when the net result would be to harm my children's standard of living. I consider the current system insane but I won't let a political belief keep food from my children's mouths, clothes from their backs or a roof from over their heads.

AngryPensioner

Sleepy wrote: »

The tax and welfare systems in this country treat co-habiting couples differently: on welfare they treat you as if you're married so were I out of work I could claim JSB/JSA for myself, my fiancée and our two kids. Working, I just get a single persons tax credit.

The Department of Welfare will pay rent on a 3 bedroom property with a rent of up to €1,050 a month for a couple with 2 kids. You pay €35 a week of this yourself and they pick up the rest.

Added to our fairly generous JSB/JSA rates (and not even factoring in the value of a medical card / back-to-school payments etc.) the last time I calculated it (some time last year), I worked out that if I earned anything below 43k a year gross, I'd be worse off working than on the dole.

AngryPensioner - nope, not PS, one of those actually improving things in a small firm that export software and consultancy services to the UK market.

Assuming your name is accurate, we're actually ****ed because your generation raised and elected a bunch of fvcking morons and tolerated a nod&wink culture of political corruption. We could also mention the tantrums thrown when some of the trinkets those idiots gave you were attempted to be taken back but hey, lets not get into generalisations, eh?

I'm not about to quit my job, I've educated myself and worked hard at a career that has me to the point where I can earn enough to make it worth my while here or damn near three times my salary should I not be able to find work in Ireland and move my family to the UK.

If I weren't in a position to do that, however, I wouldn't accept work when the net result would be to harm my children's standard of living. I consider the current system insane but I won't let a political belief keep food from my children's mouths, clothes from their backs or a roof from over their heads.

Fair enough. I am not going to argue your line of thinking. It's true that you would be a fool to accept a lower paid job for the dole in this country. That does not however mean it's ethical on the part Department of Social Welfare and Protection though.

Nobody should be able to live on 42k from the taxpayers of this country. It's just wrong. Even if you pay into the system all your life, there are still 4+ million citizens on this island.

Azureus

Reading that people can get 43k a year on welfare entitlements actually just made me feel sick there. Makes you think why do you bother working your ass of to get half of that like so many people do
I would do any job, but there are certain things that I would genuinely hate-like call centres for example. It wasnt my dream to be working behind a desk for 8 hours a day either but that's how the cookie crumbles and at least I *earn* my money. Any job is fine once it pays, and you can always look for better while your in one you dont like-beats sitting on your ass.

AngryPensioner

The dole is a joke of a career if I may so myself:mad:

Nyan Cat

how many actually get 47k or something like that, on SW? too many cos there are those that screw the system but the people who genuinely need to be on SW dont get near that but the scroungers are the ones you hear about.

its a catch 22 - if people say 'f^ck it, i can earn more on the dole' or 'i cant get the job i want' etc - so more people end up on SW thus more money is needed so the ones who are working are taxed more. and the people who genuinely need it and everyone else with regard services - health and so on - suffer for it. its a viscious cycle

Murdstone

I now a few people who were working in good jobs and said that they would do anything rather then claim the dole, and of course after they were let go they suddenly got a lot fussier!

I am the type to take a job 'within reason'

I am currently working as a general operative, and have cleaned toilets and so on in my time. However, there are some jobs I wouldn't do, mar shampla:

1. Anything cash-in-hand/black market.
2. commission - based sales.
3. door work - because I would get battered.
4. Hospitality, restaurant, barwork, kitchen porter - I wouldn't rule it out entirely but I did these kinds of jobs before and I was too clumsy/awkward for it.

Having said that, I don't have much time for people who refuse to take work purely on the basis that they think it is beneath them. I remember on a night out meeting an unemployed young lady, recent graduate, who said:

"I have a masters in drama & theatre studies; I shouldn't have to work as a receptionist!"

My mate's reply: "could you get a job being dramatic?"

Sleepy

AngryPensioner wrote: »

Fair enough. I am not going to argue your line of thinking. It's true that you would be a fool to accept a lower paid job for the dole in this country. That does not however mean it's ethical on the part Department of Social Welfare and Protection though.

Nobody should be able to live on 42k from the taxpayers of this country. It's just wrong. Even if you pay into the system all your life, there are still 4+ million citizens on this island.

I agree. It's obscene that welfare entitlements can be worth that much for people in my situation. Were co-habiting couples entitled to the same tax status as married couples (which there's precedence for, my fiancée can't claim welfare because I'm working / I'd get welfare for her if I wasn't working).

You can't get 42k in benefits afaik, it works out as 30 odd (can't remember the figure) i.e. the after-tax amount you'd have on a 42k salary.

With the exception of jobs I'd simply be a danger at, I'd be prepared to work at whatever it took to provide for my family. I've done my share of shite jobs in the past, I've been a carnie, stacked shelves, been a night-porter, grabbed glasses in bars, worked in warehouses, etc. etc. I still do the odd night in a local club bar to earn some holiday money on top of my 50/60 hours a week career job, so I'm far from afraid of hard work!

Robdude

People who think they are above working a particular job simply overvalue their worth.

It's doubly true if they happen to be unemployed and still view themselves as being 'too good' to work a particular job.

metaoblivia

I would take a job within reason. I wouldn't take any of the ones listed in the OP, restaurant work, illegal activity or sales/cold calling. I'm not suited to those jobs, particularly manual labor as I have a deteriorative joint condition, which isn't painful, but makes me weak and more susceptible to injury.

But this is also a two-way street. I have an advanced degree, and most of the employers offering those jobs wouldn't hire me as it'd be obvious that the moment I got a job that better suited my skills, I'd be out.

If I were in a tough situation, I'd probably turn to retail, which isn't great, but something that could get it done. I'd also love to quit my career in education and become a receptionist again, but very few companies are willing to hire a receptionist with an advanced degree. I keep sending out resumes though!

Robdude

metaoblivia wrote: »

I would take a job within reason. I wouldn't take any of the ones listed in the OP, restaurant work, illegal activity or sales/cold calling. I'm not suited to those jobs, particularly manual labor as I have a deteriorative joint condition, which isn't painful, but makes me weak and more susceptible to injury.

But this is also a two-way street. I have an advanced degree, and most of the employers offering those jobs wouldn't hire me as it'd be obvious that the moment I got a job that better suited my skills, I'd be out.

If I were in a tough situation, I'd probably turn to retail, which isn't great, but something that could get it done. I'd also love to quit my career in education and become a receptionist again, but very few companies are willing to hire a receptionist with an advanced degree. I keep sending out resumes though!

Do you have to disclose your advanced degree when you apply for jobs?

I thought you could pick and choose what information to include on your CV/resume?

InTheTrees

Robdude wrote: »

Do you have to disclose your advanced degree when you apply for jobs?

I thought you could pick and choose what information to include on your CV/resume?

You can put whetever you want on there.

kowloon

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Would that also involve (as I suspect) chucking the poor unfortunate males into grinders? Sorry but dont want to follow the link just in case

If so, no (not because I feel its beneath me but because I could not bring myself to be this cruel)

Says on the site: •Discard inferior or defective products and/or foreign matter, and place acceptable products in containers for further processing.

Couldn't do that job.

Best job I ever had was one of the lowest paid: a General Operative for an archaeology company. Was a Summer job when I was in school and in college, although I got promoted and paid more as I went along.
Tough first few days because I'm pretty weedy but met some really sound people.

Everything's been downhill since.

Sleepy

Robdude wrote: »

People who think they are above working a particular job simply overvalue their worth.

It's doubly true if they happen to be unemployed and still view themselves as being 'too good' to work a particular job.

But surely people who are working know their worth since they get given a payslip with that figure on it every month?

metaoblivia

Robdude wrote: »

Do you have to disclose your advanced degree when you apply for jobs?

I thought you could pick and choose what information to include on your CV/resume?

I could leave it out, but I feel that's unethical and akin to lying on your resume. If I find a long term position, it's eventually going to come out and that could be grounds for dismissal. I wouldn't want to risk it.

Diceicle

I think most people are choosy and wouldnt be happy scrubbing my poo off a toilet bowl?

cena

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

in NYPD u'd get fat from eating Donuts and drinking Coffee all day

I don't drink coffee.:)

annascott

What is a chugger?

gustafo

metaoblivia wrote: »

I could leave it out, but I feel that's unethical and akin to lying on your resume. If I find a long term position, it's eventually going to come out and that could be grounds for dismissal. I wouldn't want to risk it.

Your joking are ya, you would't RISK it, you must love being on d dole so, i'd try my arm at anything if it doesn't work it doesn't work out, at the end of the day you have nothing to lose.

Nyan Cat

annascott wrote: »

What is a chugger?

Charity mugger - you know those guys that try to stop you in the street and want you to sign a direct debit?

annascott

Thanks. No, I could not be a chugger- although I am always very apologetic in my refusal - I am sure some people are quite rude. (actually, I had always thought that they were volunteers)

I suppose if I was stuck, I would do anything that wasn't toilet related, made me smell or put me at risk of germs or in full view of other people. It's not snobbery. it's embarrasment..

Robdude

annascott wrote: »

Thanks. No, I could not be a chugger- although I am always very apologetic in my refusal - I am sure some people are quite rude. (actually, I had always thought that they were volunteers)

I suppose if I was stuck, I would do anything that wasn't toilet related, made me smell or put me at risk of germs or in full view of other people. It's not snobbery. it's embarrasment..

What is your opinion of the people who do those things?

Sindri

I once advertised myself as a prostitute.

Scanlas The 2nd

annascott wrote: »

Thanks. No, I could not be a chugger- although I am always very apologetic in my refusal - I am sure some people are quite rude. (actually, I had always thought that they were volunteers)

I suppose if I was stuck, I would do anything that wasn't toilet related, made me smell or put me at risk of germs or in full view of other people. It's not snobbery. it's embarrasment..

Apologetic in your refusal!!!!! Why? Say no thanks or ignore them.

monkeypants

I think I'd be really bad as a chugger.

I was unemployed a couple of years ago for over a year. The thing that struck me is that even though I applied for every job I could think of, many of them didn't want me as they considered me to be overqualified.

OldNotWIse

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Apologetic in your refusal!!!!! Why? Say no thanks or ignore them.

Or just give them "the look" - I have finally mastered the look after 2/3 years of running the gauntlet through town. I am actually quite proud of it lol - a look that can wither a chugger and stop them from approaching you - excellent