Lidl generator

Yorky

Lidl will be selling generators on Thursday 19th January. It's advertised as 2800w but in the same description states it has 5.1kW output.

This seems to be contradictory - can anyone explain?

Bruthal

Its likely the 2800w (2.8kw) is the continous rating, and the 5.1kw (5100w) is probably the max it can deliver for very short bursts.

In reality 2.8kw is a power rating, where as this probably should be rated as 2.8kva which is a little different. This generator could be capable of powering a 2800w heating element continously, but not a 2800w motor load, which is why generators should be rated in kva.

But for general use, it will be around the 2800w (resistive load) continous rated output.

2011

Anyone got a link ?

Ta

Bruthal

Lidl generator

It might be giving the power of the engine as 7hp, as well as the actual generator output of 2.8kva

cala

robbie7730 wrote: »

Its likely the 2800w (2.8kw) is the continous rating, and the 5.1kw (5100w) is probably the max it can deliver for very short bursts.

In reality 2.8kw is a power rating, where as this probably should be rated as 2.8kva which is a little different. This generator could be capable of powering a 2800w heating element continously, but not a 2800w motor load, which is why generators should be rated in kva.

But for general use, it will be around the 2800w (resistive load) continous rated output.

how is kva calculated re hp or output

Bruthal

cala wrote: »

how is kva calculated re hp or output

KVA is volts x amps/1000 in an AC circuit. If a heating element is 2kw, its power factor will be 1 as its a resistive load. So it will require a 2kva output from a generator to power it, as the element takes 8.7 amps to give its 2kw output (a 2kw 230v element)

If its a 2kw motor with a 0.75 power factor, it would require a 2.6kva supply from the generator, because the 2kw motor would take over 11 amps to get 2kw out of it, because of the out of phase power factor. (efficiency excluded in calculations)

So the 2.8kva generator can give a continous 2800/230v= 12.17 amps. But how this amps level equates to KW depends on the power factor of the load.

The HP is kw/0.746

jingojonson

These have been on sale previously over the last few years. Does anyone have one and if so whats the feedback? A honday will cost over twice the price, so is it worth waiting and saving up or is the lidl one grand for irregular use?

dingding

2011 wrote: »

Anyone got a link ?

Ta

http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/index_17137.htm

paddymick

The only issues I see with them is the outlet sockets and theres no 110v.So for €200 I dont think you can wrong if you just need a Generator for around the house.

Bruthal

paddymick wrote: »

The only issues I see with them is the outlet sockets and theres no 110v.So for €200 I dont think you can wrong if you just need a Generator for around the house.

Yes thats about it there. Sockets will need an adaptor, but at €200 it seems a good generator.

liveandnetural

Yorky wrote: »

Lidl will be selling generators on Thursday 19th January. It's advertised as 2800w but in the same description states it has 5.1kW output.

This seems to be contradictory - can anyone explain?

5.1kw is the rating for the petrol engine(7HP)
2800w is output of generator

Bruthal

liveandnetural wrote: »

5.1kw is the rating for the petrol engine(7HP)
2800w is output of generator

Thats mentioned somewhere earlier alright.

howamidifferent

Pardon my ignorance, but is it safe to use the 2 pin to 3 pin adapters with something like this? Also, can one safely use an extension lead to multiply at least one of the outputs to handle 4 outputs? i.e. to use kettle, radio and maybe a microwave if needed at the same time?

Are they allowed sell these 2 pin models here? Shouldn't they have a 3 pin model if sold here?

CJhaughey

howamidifferent wrote: »

Pardon my ignorance, but is it safe to use the 2 pin to 3 pin adapters with something like this? Also, can one safely use an extension lead to multiply at least one of the outputs to handle 4 outputs? i.e. to use kettle, radio and maybe a microwave if needed at the same time?

Are they allowed sell these 2 pin models here? Shouldn't they have a 3 pin model if sold here?

Kettle = 2200-2500w
Microwave = 600-800w
Radio = 20w-60w
Generator output is 2800w.
Its pretty close to the maximum load with just a kettle nevermind all the rest.
I would use one thing at a time or buy a bigger genset.

paddymick

So did we get any guinea pig`s today that bit the bullet?