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Internet addiction...

  • 12-01-2012 4:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16505521
    Web addicts have brain changes similar to those hooked on drugs or alcohol, preliminary research suggests.
    Experts in China scanned the brains of 17 young web addicts and found disruption in the way their brains were wired up.
    They say the discovery, published in Plos One, could lead to new treatments for addictive behaviour.
    Internet addiction is a clinical disorder marked by out-of-control internet use.
    A research team led by Hao Lei of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan carried out brain scans of 35 men and women aged between 14 and 21.
    Seventeen of them were classed as having internet addiction disorder (IAD) on the basis of answering yes to questions such as, "Have you repeatedly made unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back or stop Internet use?"
    Specialised MRI brain scans showed changes in the white matter of the brain - the part that contains nerve fibres - in those classed as being web addicts, compared with non-addicts.


    There was evidence of disruption to connections in nerve fibres linking brain areas involved in emotions, decision making, and self-control.
    Dr Hao Lei and colleagues write in Plos One: "Overall, our findings indicate that IAD has abnormal white matter integrity in brain regions involving emotional generation and processing, executive attention, decision making and cognitive control.
    "The results also suggest that IAD may share psychological and neural mechanisms with other types of substance addiction and impulse control disorders."
    Prof Gunter Schumann, chair in biological psychiatry at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College, London, said similar findings have been found in video game addicts.
    He told the BBC: "For the first time two studies show changes in the neuronal connections between brain areas as well as changes in brain function in people who are frequently using the internet or video games."
    Commenting on the Chinese study, Dr Henrietta Bowden-Jones, consultant psychiatrist and honorary senior lecturer at Imperial College London, said the research was "groundbreaking".
    She added: "We are finally being told what clinicians suspected for some time now, that white matter abnormalities in the orbito-frontal cortex and other truly significant brain areas are present not only in addictions where substances are involved but also in behavioural ones such as internet addiction."
    She said further studies with larger numbers of subjects were needed to confirm the findings.



    Diagnostic criteria for internet addiction

    • Do you feel preoccupied with the internet?
    • Do you feel the need to use the internet with increasing amounts of time in order to achieve satisfaction?
    • Have you repeatedly made unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back or stop internet use?
    • Do you feel restless, moody, depressed, or irritable when attempting to cut down or stop internet use?
    • Do you stay online longer than intended?
    • Have you jeopardized or risked the loss of a significant relationship, job, educational or career opportunity because of the internet?
    • Have you lied to family members, a therapist or others to conceal the extent of involvement with the internet?
    • Do you use the internet as a way of escaping from problems or of relieving a distressed mood (eg feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety and depression)?
    Participants answering yes to questions 1 to 5 and at least one more answer were classed as suffering from Internet Addiction Disorder



    So... are you addicted to the internet?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Ficheall wrote: »
    So... are you addicted to the internet?

    I like to think it's addicted to me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Im addicted to a few things, but have never thought i might be addicted to the Internet:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    I didnt read any of that but no I don't think I am


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Richie90


    Not addicted. Would take a while to get used to not having it but I think I'd be ok


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 167 ✭✭promethius42


    A lot of the work I do revolves around the internet and contributes to it so it more like a mutually beneficial partnership between host and parasite :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,265 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The internet is just a vessel to carry different media and information.

    If you are spending all your time on facebook, you are addicted to facebook.

    If you are spending all your time looking at online porn, you probably have a porn addiction.

    Same with gaming.

    'Internet addiction' is a bit too vague.

    Maybe I have an addition to using DSL modems?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I am addicted to using the internet.

    I went on a stag weekend and was furious that there was no WIFI in my hotel room.

    So angry in fact that I almost complained about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I like to think of it as a symbiotic relationship.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Nyan Cat


    i spend plenty of time online doing different things. i do things offline when it needs doing or go out when i fancy it. and have spent weeks away from computers. im a bit addicted to being connected to games, email, facebook, boards, pinterest and what have you. but not addicted to any one single aspect.

    people spend hours watching tv and others barely bat an eyelid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    I am addicted to using the internet.

    I went on a stag weekend and was furious that there was no WIFI in my hotel room.

    So angry in fact that I almost complained about it.


    ok we get it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    I'm not addicted ... I'm not addicted I tell you ... not addicted!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Can you summarise that for me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    Pretty sure I am. That's why I decided to give it up last month. Going alright so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭no1beemerfan


    Only while at work :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Nyan Cat


    I am addicted to using the internet.

    I went on a stag weekend and was furious that there was no WIFI in my hotel room.

    So angry in fact that I almost complained about it.


    i do appreciate a bit of wifi for the ol' phone. check my farm, virtual pets, aquarium email etc at bed time - after the drink etx (unless im comatose)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,265 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I am addicted to using the internet.

    I went on a stag weekend and was furious that there was no WIFI in my hotel room.

    So angry in fact that I almost complained about it.

    Did you roam the streets with your laptop, trying to find a wireless hotspot?
    Only to find some shady character, offering you WIFI for some 'favours'?
    Did you agree to such 'favours'?
    Do you now have chlamydia?

    If you answered no to the above, you aren't really addicted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭StephenHendry


    i use the internet a lot during the day, im glad i don't have a pc a home otherwise i would be on it too long :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    smash wrote: »
    Can you summarise that for me?

    Read the bolded bits.
    Web addicts have brain changes similar to those hooked on drugs or alcohol, preliminary research suggests.

    Experts in China scanned the brains of 17 young web addicts and found disruption in the way their brains were wired up.
    They say the discovery, published in Plos One, could lead to new treatments for addictive behaviour.
    Internet addiction is a clinical disorder marked by out-of-control internet use.
    A research team led by Hao Lei of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan carried out brain scans of 35 men and women aged between 14 and 21.
    Seventeen of them were classed as having internet addiction disorder (IAD) on the basis of answering yes to questions such as, "Have you repeatedly made unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back or stop Internet use?"
    Specialised MRI brain scans showed changes in the white matter of the brain - the part that contains nerve fibres - in those classed as being web addicts, compared with non-addicts.


    There was evidence of disruption to connections in nerve fibres linking brain areas involved in emotions, decision making, and self-control.
    Dr Hao Lei and colleagues write in Plos One: "Overall, our findings indicate that IAD has abnormal white matter integrity in brain regions involving emotional generation and processing, executive attention, decision making and cognitive control.
    "The results also suggest that IAD may share psychological and neural mechanisms with other types of substance addiction and impulse control disorders."
    Prof Gunter Schumann, chair in biological psychiatry at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College, London, said similar findings have been found in video game addicts. (here we go!)
    He told the BBC: "For the first time two studies show changes in the neuronal connections between brain areas as well as changes in brain function in people who are frequently using the internet or video games."
    Commenting on the Chinese study, Dr Henrietta Bowden-Jones, consultant psychiatrist and honorary senior lecturer at Imperial College London, said the research was "groundbreaking".
    She added: "We are finally being told what clinicians suspected for some time now, that white matter abnormalities in the orbito-frontal cortex and other truly significant brain areas are present not only in addictions where substances are involved but also in behavioural ones such as internet addiction."
    She said further studies with larger numbers of subjects were needed to confirm the findings. (Yeah, cos it's bullsh!t without proper testing).



    Diagnostic criteria for internet addiction

    Do you feel preoccupied with the internet?
    Do you feel the need to use the internet with increasing amounts of time in order to achieve satisfaction?
    Have you repeatedly made unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back or stop internet use?
    Do you feel restless, moody, depressed, or irritable when attempting to cut down or stop internet use?
    Do you stay online longer than intended?
    Have you jeopardized or risked the loss of a significant relationship, job, educational or career opportunity because of the internet?
    Have you lied to family members, a therapist or others to conceal the extent of involvement with the internet?
    Do you use the internet as a way of escaping from problems or of relieving a distressed mood (eg feelings of helplessness, guilt, anxiety and depression)?

    Participants answering yes to questions 1 to 5 and at least one more answer were classed as suffering from Internet Addiction Disorder


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    I'm totally addicted, its all or nothing with me.

    It's nearly impossible for me to live without it totally and I find myself wasting my spare time, on the other hand , I've stopped going to the pub much much less.
    I've perma deleted my Facebook, that's helped a bit


  • Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭harvester of sorrow


    Hi my name is harvester of sorrow,and im an internet addict............


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Experts in China should shut up and get a ride!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    ok we get it

    Who's we? And what is it?

    Stop talking bollocks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Its just all that sexy granny porn. I cant stop looking at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    FatherLen wrote: »
    I didnt read any of that but no I don't think I am
    Richie90 wrote: »
    Not addicted. Would take a while to get used to not having it but I think I'd be ok
    Nyan Cat wrote: »
    i spend plenty of time online doing different things. i do things offline when it needs doing or go out when i fancy it. and have spent weeks away from computers. im a bit addicted to being connected to games, email, facebook, boards, pinterest and what have you. but not addicted to any one single aspect.

    people spend hours watching tv and others barely bat an eyelid.
    I'm not addicted ... I'm not addicted I tell you ... not addicted!!!

    You know what they say the first sign of addiction is :pac:



    Joking aside, there's a good thread on the subject here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=71464090


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    Imagine how addicted kids in China would be if they could also use all the blocked sites!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Dotrel wrote: »
    Imagine how addicted kids in China would be if they could also use all the blocked sites!

    They'd be like this -> :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Nyan Cat


    You know what they say the first sign of addiction is :pac:


    catch 22 that one!
    (in denial)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    symptom: staying up to 4 on a college day to check if someone commented on your hilarious comment on boards.

    not me of course:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 AngryPensioner


    Psychiatrists invent illness to sell drugs. Shocker:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭maxfresh


    ye pretty much addicted boards.ie dosn't help :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    No its habitual but excessive. I'm bad at limiting my time but if I went away for two weeks I wouldn't be cracking up, Its not my only coping mechanism.

    I think it can be an addiction but very rarely I do believe it is from a disordered lifestyle to a symptom of something else, The idea of an internet addiction is more like an issue with withdrawing from the real world or at least a slightly different idea of addiction from the conventional ones more that have a very limited notion of a substance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    No its habitual but excessive. I'm bad at limiting my time but if I went away for two weeks I wouldn't be cracking up, Its not my only coping mechanism.

    I think it can be an addiction but very rarely I do believe it is from a disordered lifestyle to a symptom of something else, The idea of an internet addiction is more like an issue with withdrawing from the real world or at least a slightly different idea of addiction from the conventional ones more that have a very limited notion of a substance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    No, I'm on patches right now and no longer consider myself an addict.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    No, I'm on patches right now and no longer consider myself an addict.

    No no no, put them down. They're patch leads!


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,230 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    If I've nothing else to do I'll often sit online all day. But I'd never pick browsing online over going out with friends or anything.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I work online to a certain extent, I watch all my media online, I buy things online. How can a necessity like the internet be an addiction if you really have no other choice but to use the internet? It's like accusing somebody of being addicted to using roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,129 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It's more undying love than addiction. The internet's my BFF after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    In all seriousness though. The only time I go on here is when I have feck all else to do. Like right now. I only ever go onto youtube, boards.ie or some news website (guardian, telegraph, reuters, etc..), if I haven't proper stuff to do on the internet like look up stuff for college, etc.. I don't even have facebook. If I didn't have the internet I'd probably just be reading something or watching TV in my spare time.

    The only time I need the internet, is for e-mail, college stuff (they put our lecture notes online, etc.), bank stuff (even though I could do the same physically in a bank), booking something (flights, accom) or finding out how to get somewhere. That's all.

    I've spent about 2-3 hours on this today already, so I better shut it down soon before I start to go crazy thinking I have an addiction, lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    The internets a neccesity in work, and I use it when Im bored/for college work (accessing notes etc) but Im not remotely addicted, despite being online for large chunks of my day. In fact, when I go home and turn off my computer and my phone I feel infinately better. Same as when I go on holidays and dont access the outside world for two weeks-fantastic :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    This generation are displaying signs of narcissistic tendencies and a difficulty with delayed gratification because of the internet.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I work online to a certain extent, I watch all my media online, I buy things online. How can a necessity like the internet be an addiction if you really have no other choice but to use the internet? It's like accusing somebody of being addicted to using roads.

    Was ALL that information really necessary ?

    You are also completely wrong by the way.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Yeah...but I could give it up tomorrow, just like that *click*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭ICANN


    I didn't have home internet (ie constant access) or a laptop until about two and a half years ago and I'm increasingly dependent on it! I'm definitely going to cut back to about an hour a day because truth be told I don't do much on it except browse around a few sites and I stream Irish radio while I'm here in the UK as I hate English radio!!

    I'm glad that I had more or less an internet-free childhood and that my childhood wasn't wasted in front of a computer screen like some of my young cousins!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Was ALL that information really necessary ?

    You are also completely wrong by the way.......
    How can I be wrong, do you mean I don't work online or watch media online? Or that the modern world would work just fine without the internet it's not at all essential?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭Captain McDuck


    Im addicted to your Ma


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    I used to have it really bad. I suffer from depression and when I'm feeling down I can't really get out of bed or have the motivation to do productive things so I would just piss about online all day. I sometimes suffer from insomnia too, would just be online all night. Boards was "good" for me in that it was a way of talking to people, but people I didn't know and so I would share personal things I was afraid to talk about with people I know.

    Been much better lately! I'm still online a good bit but I can now do other things I couldn't before. May not seem like a big deal, but being able to hold my concentration long enough to watch a film is good for me :) I'm out a lot more and even when I'm at home I often turn off the laptop and do something else.

    Using it all day in work isn't an addiction. Its when you avoid doing anything else because internet is just easier and more comforting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    yup im an addict and very proud of that :D


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