Heart Don't fail me now

catweazle

Dory Dory wrote: »

You gunning for a sub 3:30 I assume??

ahhh I don't know to be honest, i know myself how hard they are - no harm in training for that time though. Closer to the day itself I will have a better idea of what I can hold.

catweazle

Wednesday Lunch: An easy 8k run, averaged around 5.20 pace for 134 heart rate.

Thursday Evening: An interval run I was actually looking forward to, a 5 x 2k @ 4.30 pace with 2 minutes recovery followed by one final k at 4.20. It was probably as I knew I would be well able for this that I didnt mind it.

Ran them all at around 4.20-4.25 pace, felt really strong on the 3rd rep for some reason and was going at around 4.15 pace for what seemed like very little effort but it kicked back a little on the 5th.

Worked myself into a lather for the last one kilometre with Sasha on the iphone grinding out the old hits, so off I went, started out at 3.45 pace but died a death and quickly decided that my poor achilles was acting up and cantered home for a 4.13 last k

I finally talked myself into entering the Galway Bay 1/2 Marathon in early October. Its a little near DCM but to hell with it. My mantra for next season is to race more so I might as well start now.

From the entrance search the mere sight of "The Fishmonger" and "The GAA friend" signed up was too much to resist. "The Fishmonger" has been texting me his latest races results as he knows all of them are better than mine. "The GAA Friend" is training for the Dublin marathon as well. Two of the most competitive people I know so I will be gunning for them. A sub 1.40 should be enough to send the Fishmonger packing but "The GAA Friend" may well be quicker than that.

Anyways as you can see I am looking forward to it, I think its this race two years ago when I last raced this distance with a swim and bike before it

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

CW your obviously not doing the half this weekend which is scheduled in the plan, any possibility of a route you could pick to run a half to see how you go? If not i will mail you a long progression run to do instead.
Good pace on the intervals tonight.

catweazle

Stevie Late Truck wrote: »

CW your obviously not doing the half this weekend which is scheduled in the plan, any possibility of a route you could pick to run a half to see how you go? If not i will mail you a long progression run to do instead.
Good pace on the intervals tonight.

Good man - I am a bit worried endurance wise with only a 12 week programme coming into this so I was going to run 18 miles, I will leave it up to you for the pace of it! Lets leave the 13.1 till October 6th, I am not the best for pushing myself on my own anyways so the 13.1 time may not be accurate

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

catweazle wrote: »

Good man - I am a bit worried endurance wise with only a 12 week programme coming into this so I was going to run 18 miles, I will leave it up to you for the pace of it! Lets leave the 13.1 till October 6th, I am not the best for pushing myself on my own anyways so the 13.1 time may not be accurate

Whats the longest run so far?

catweazle

A smidge over 16 was the longest

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

catweazle wrote: »

A smidge over 16 was the longest

pm sent. The 2 peak weeks in the final block will have you around 32-34km.

catweazle

Friday: 8k recovery run at about 5.56 pace. Legs were tired and was glad it was just trotting mileage today

Saturday: With Mrs C and Pudsy off into town to meet the girls, I was able to pack up and head somewhere new for the run. Haven't done Renville Park in ages so off I went, was mad going past the gym, I should have brought the swim gear for a dip afterwards.

The run today was 50 minutes at 5.20, 45 minutes at 5.00 and then 40 minutes at 4.45 pace. There is a nice little loop around the area which is around 8k but can be stretched out to just under 10k so this would suit perfect for a water stop at the car after each one.

Got through the first 2 ok, 50 minutes @ 5.16 and 45 minutes @ 4.54. Had a decent feeling about the last one too and picked a route that the last k would be uphill. I was close to breaking at 4k but a rousing rendition of an old Sex Kitchen song, aptly titled I'm Stomping followed by bang.......to the beat of the drum......bang.....bang (another old school classic). Got me to 30 minutes and I knew I had the back broken of the run at that stage.

As I hit 35 minutes, I spotted the wifes uncle coming towards me walking the dog, a brief moment of indecision on whether I would stop or not was quickly shelved when I realised I may be putting our yearly holiday in his pad in Portugal in jeopardy if I didn't stop. I was happy I could have finished it out anyways and was not using him as an excuse. So 5 minutes talking about the hurling and patting his dog and I was away to finish the last bit of the run. 40 minutes @ 4.42 pace

Sunday: A late night watching the film "The Raid", I love my action films and by god this is action from the first minute - this was very much probably the best fight scenes I have seen in an action movie.......ever!

Coupled with a very early morning bringing the young lad for his sunday dip in the pool with a Nightmare day mowing the lawn so just ran down to the bridge and back for 5k at 5.40 pace recovery run. Legs felt good - no stiffness at all

Chartsengrafs

Nice work on the Saturday run. Mind me asking when your peak weeks will be?

sconhome

Was that you that blitzed past me on the Maree road? I was doing same session going the other way back to Oranmore & Kilcolgan.

Nice work, well done.

catweazle

Basster wrote: »

Nice work on the Saturday run. Mind me asking when your peak weeks will be?

I don't really know to be honest . I get my schedule in four week blocks - I have a 30k next week and a 34k at some other stage, followed by a recovery week. I will be asking my "coach" given that I have a PB grudge match 1/2 Marathon the following week on the 6th, should I do 30k this weekend and the 34k the following week, leaving the race at the fag end of a recovery week

catweazle

amphkingwest wrote: »

Was that you that blitzed past me on the Maree road? I was doing same session going the other way back to Oranmore & Kilcolgan.

I don't think so I assume I would have recognized you, plus I was wearing a white Loughrea Triathlon 2010 t-shirt which you would have pegged, there were a couple of guys in the park all right doing hill repeats but that was about it. There was a burial going on when I was around there

Maree/The Park is a lovely run over with a few testing drags, I don't get a chance often to drive anywhere for the run due to time constraints with the young lad. Have you gone out and around the old castle down by the shore, its a handy extra km or so to add on if needed

RedB

amphkingwest wrote: »

Was that you that blitzed past me on the Maree road? I was doing same session going the other way back to Oranmore & Kilcolgan.

Emmmm - does that mean you're also on JBs special Gold Level plan?;):)

I'm following a P+D plan myself and just feel ordinary compared to this 'coached' version!

Good work CW (and AKW:rolleyes:) - Keep it going

BennyMul

great work, this will be no problems to you.

RedB wrote: »

Emmmm - does that mean you're also on JBs special Gold Level plan?;):)

Reb I dont know about you but I am starting to feel left out, did we do something wrong

sconhome

RedB wrote: »

Emmmm - does that mean you're also on JBs special Gold Level plan?;):)

I'm following a P+D plan myself and just feel ordinary compared to this 'coached' version!

Good work CW (and AKW:rolleyes:) - Keep it going

Curiosity got the better of me. Turns out it dovetailed nicely with my own training so I've adopted / adapted me to the plan. I needed a kick in the backside.

sconhome

catweazle wrote: »

I don't think so I assume I would have recognized you, plus I was wearing a white Loughrea Triathlon 2010 t-shirt which you would have pegged, there were a couple of guys in the park all right doing hill repeats but that was about it. There was a burial going on when I was around there

Maree/The Park is a lovely run over with a few testing drags, I don't get a chance often to drive anywhere for the run due to time constraints with the young lad. Have you gone out and around the old castle down by the shore, its a handy extra km or so to add on if needed

Its a great area. Lived in the Village for a while and the woods & park were my playground through the bad winter. Running from Kilcolgan again this week and will take the old loops in for the extra few km's.

catweazle

Monday: Seeing as I was in up in the office I finagled a visit to Knockma after work. I was caught for time - not sure but I assume the roadworks after Tuam are for the new extension of the motorway to Gort. Pain in the ass. Got to Knockma and only had time for two loops at this stage. Knockma is a circular loop up and down a steep hill, there is a fork right at the start go left and its a quick death with a wicked steep short slope go right and its less steep but much longer. I decided to go right both times, the first one was tough as I haven't ran it in months but as I expected the legs had adapted and the 2nd one I was much more in control. Took the descents handy as the stones were wet. 6.5k @ 5.40 pace.

Tuesday: A hour 25 minute tempo run 60 minutes @ 4.45 pace and 10 minutes @ 4.30 pace, this was a lunch run so I couldn't do the dog on it, so a few stretches while chatting to a client on skype for the warm up (I have no webcam) and out the door I went straight after.

Started out the first 3k at 4.29 pace, I felt great but I could see the heart rate had gone into the 160's so I dialed it back a bit and the heart rate seemed to settle into the low to mid 150's at low 4.40's pace. Nothing more eventful for the next few k, until I hit the turnaround point and it started to lash, was worried about the iphone getting wet but I had settled into a lovely rhythm of low 4.40's and I wanted to keep going. It stopped after a few minutes luckily.

Ran 13k in 61 minutes so then 2k at 4.30 pace to finish, first one was at 4.20 and the second one at 4.09, protein shake and then straight up the stairs to the office to waggle my mouse around the screen and then a quick shower. Totals 13k @ 4.41 pace and 2k at 4.15 AHR = 155 Max = 175

catweazle

Wednesday: An easy recovery run at lunchtime. 8k @ 5.40 pace for 129 heart rate

Showing my age but while lounging on the couch watching Champions League, I jumped up when I got the dinner call. I am not sure but I seemed to pull something on my side. Didn't sleep very well - while not too sore it was a little uncomfortable.

Thursday: It felt a little better this morning, with an all day work event in Dublin on saturday, I said I would take today off and do the interval run on friday and the lsr on sunday.

Friday: Stomach not bothering me today although I felt very lethargic all day. I finally said I would give the intervals a shot at lunchtime. As soon as i started to swing the arms the muscles were at me so I walked back to the house. Just after getting word that I don't have to go to Dublin tomorrow but I had cancelled a long days stone picking in a friends new garden over it. Now have the choice to do that tomorrow and hope it wont feck up the run on sunday (if the stomach improves)

On a side note having read all the TK Maxx Sugoi deals on the cycling board I rushed in at lunch time, alas some pricy jackets were all that were there, very close to buying a long sleeved jersey but backed off when i realized there were no back pockets

sconhome

Dont go stone picking if you are running Sunday. Your back and hamstrings will be in tatters. Trust me.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

amphkingwest wrote: »

Dont go stone picking if you are running Sunday. Your back and hamstrings will be in tatters. Trust me.

+1 and running with stones in your pockets & shoes is not fun:) is stone picking some country folk ritual?

griffin100

Stevie Late Truck wrote: »

+1 and running with stones in your pockets & shoes is not fun:) is stone picking some country folk ritual?

I thought we'd have to explain to Dory what stone picking was but I'm disappointed in you JB






ps I only know what it is as I married a culchie who did this as a kid along with things like using her communion money to buy a couple of calfs for fattening and selling on. I really missed out growing up in Dublin

sconhome

Stevie Late Truck wrote: »

+1 and running with stones in your pockets & shoes is not fun:) is stone picking some country folk ritual?

griffin100 wrote: »

I thought we'd have to explain to Dory what stone picking was but I'm disappointed in you JB






ps I only know what it is as I married a culchie who did this as a kid along with things like using her communion money to buy a couple of calfs for fattening and selling on. I really missed out growing up in Dublin

Come 'ere, I'm a Dub! Just to keep the record straight

Dory Dory

griffin100 wrote: »

I thought we'd have to explain to Dory what stone picking was but I'm disappointed in you JB






ps I only know what it is as I married a culchie who did this as a kid along with things like using her communion money to buy a couple of calfs for fattening and selling on. I really missed out growing up in Dublin

I had to read "stone picking" a few times before I was sure it was not a typo. Still not sure what it is, but I assume based on the context that it's picking stones out of a garden to make better soil to plant things in?? Which then begs the question: CW, WTF????

catweazle

Wikipedia = Stone picking is the process of removing stones and rocks from a garden or farmer's field. It can be done by hand, by passing the soil through a sieve, or by machine.
I think a bigger culchie trait is the pride in the lawn syndrome, even along my road you can spot the townies moved out by their push lawnmowersand often unkempt grass. All the culchies have ride-ons and snooker table lawns.

If a single blade of grass on my lawn goes beyond an inch in length the brother in law starts bitching to the mother in law who takes the wife aside calling the garden a disgrace :mad: (I couldn't give a sh1te about the lawn personally as long as it isn't overgrown)

Needless to say another lawn incident happened this weekend, I am still having trouble with my stomach and wanted to put off the grass until after a long run attempt on the sunday. This didn't go down well with the brother in law who loans me his trailer to get rid of the grass so I usually need to fit in with his timelines which this week was a saturday and he wouldn't drop it over on the sunday even though he lives next door.

So two hours of mowing later I could feel the tightness as I was lugging the grass over the sides so once again giving up the slow run I was planning on Saturday. I have been complaining about not having my own trailer all summer and was positively fuming and I finally think the hassle got through to Mrs C - so some good came out of it and in the end of it all I have been finally given the all clear to get my own trailer and to hell with what her family think of snubbing the bro in laws one.

Started to feel very cold saturday night which has been a little symptomatic of the last few days, either a feeling of being a bit run down or a cold or something is coming so went to bed early.

A brief discussion that night with Mrs C who said I was a fool to be thinking of stuffing myself with painkillers to run 30k, and I eventually agreed. I will be given the pass to go tomorrow if I feel up to it. So a fairly innocuous injury has kept me out from running since wednesday.

I have to get back swimming - none of these tweaks and twinges things ever happened when I was swimming regularly

Dory Dory

I don't know what a culchie is, but I can google.....and I assume the trailer is a lawn mower? One question, and I don't mean to stir up trouble or appear negative in any way, but do Irish women not mow the grass??

catweazle

Dory Dory wrote: »

I don't know what a culchie is, but I can google.....and I assume the trailer is a lawn mower? One question, and I don't mean to stir up trouble or appear negative in any way, but do Irish women not mow the grass??

In the city yes I would expect her to chip in but out here I would be a pariah if she was spotted doing it. In fairness I have a push lawnmower and with the lawn being circa 1/2 acre it would be a fairly big effort for her to push that around for a few hours let alone pull the cord fast enough to start it up in the first place.

No a trailer is a large box with a hitch that can attach itself to the back of a car that has a towbar. You are probably thinking of a ride on Dory which is the Ferrari of Lawn mowers (one that you can sit on)

This is the bad boy I am eying up for example purposes

Dory Dory

Oh, i see. Out here in the country women definitley share the lawn duties. I tried once, but hubby did not think my mowing skills were up to par nor had potential so I am forbidden to come near the heavy equipment. Fine with me.

Kurt Godel

Love the trailer argument description catweazle, it is just so Irish! This idea that you need to begrudgingly hit a relative to borrow a trailer (or ladder, or power drill, or whatever), but woe betide should you emasculate that relationship by buying your own!:D

By the way, theirs some great ride-ons in the States. I once went house-hunting in upstate New York, we saw the neighbours cutting their lawn- two his'n'hers ride-on behemoths, one doing the back, one the front.:)

pgibbo

So did you run on Sunday???

BTW, not sure that trailer would be a good idea. The timber base would rot to hell after 1 season of grass! :eek: There'll be a lot of grass going in to it once you drop it at mine after you cut yours! :rolleyes:

sconhome

Put mesh sides on it and we could all have a go of it. Be a communal trailer.

BennyMul

do we not realise that its winter out, there is only 1 or 2 cuts left in the grass. also would you not get a compost area for the grass, and use it as fertiliser for next years rose's?
Or do as I do and throw it over the fence to the horses

pgibbo

^^ Gery Daly reckons there'll be growth this year until December.

The farmer next door to me wasn't too happy when some grass was thrown over so that's out of bounds. Same happened to CW.

I want a compost area buy OH won't allow it. No arguing with her so I add at least 30mins to each cut by walking to and fro to dump the grass next door in a communial area :mad:

RedB

pgibbo wrote: »

^^ Gery Daly reckons there'll be growth this year until December.

The farmer next door to me wasn't too happy when some grass was thrown over so that's out of bounds. Same happened to CW.

I want a compost area buy OH won't allow it. No arguing with her so I add at least 30mins to each cut by walking to and fro to dump the grass next door in a communial area :mad:

Lucky you :rolleyes: Mine goes in the bin €€€€

littlebug

RedB wrote: »

Lucky you :rolleyes: Mine goes in the bin €€€€

I love my compost bin. Too much grass makes it too sludgy though. I'm not allowed mow the lawn either as I apparently do it wrong :rolleyes: though I am in charge of weeds. That's grand. I've even cultivated a nice little nettle patch for caterpillars

anyhow... back to Catweazle. I was on the verge of asking you to jump into the river with me someday but I'm managed to line up a friend for a lough hackett swim so you're off the hook.
I started with the masters last night. Loved it.

BennyMul

pgibbo wrote: »

^^ Gery Daly reckons there'll be growth this year until December.

The farmer next door to me wasn't too happy when some grass was thrown over so that's out of bounds. Same happened to CW.

I want a compost area buy OH won't allow it. No arguing with her so I add at least 30mins to each cut by walking to and fro to dump the grass next door in a communial area :mad:

I have a rented field, with a bunch of starved horses owned by travelers and they dont mind what I give them (as long as there is no ragworth in it)
We dont know if the horses are going to be left there or sent to the "french market"

pgibbo

Didn't realise you were there last night. Which lane were you in? Great crowd there

littlebug

pgibbo wrote: »

Didn't realise you were there last night. Which lane were you in? Great crowd there

i was at the tail end of the slow lane Didn't spot you...wouldn't know you anyway!.
I'll look out for you next week. I was delighted to be able to manage it all.. slowly . The kick stuff kills me !

catweazle

Seems to be a lot of frustrated gardeners in the tri logs. Suffice to say all was peace and quiet till a new farmer started renting the field adjoining us and called into us and asked us not to be putting the grass over the walls from now on Compost heap is a big no no for mother and daughter so thats not up for discussion.

I am not going to even get into the family politics over the strimmers.

littlebug wrote: »

I started with the masters last night. Loved it.

Well done, its something I would love to do but the time its held at just kills me as regards going and even if we had the sunday roast a bit earlier I doubt I could even float after it let alone swim.

No long run yesterday Gibbo, I popped a painkiller before lunch and managed to run the local loop for just under 8k at 5.30 pace. Its not a bit comfortable though, even though as soon as I stopped running I couldn't feel it. Going to write off last week as a recovery week and a poor one at that and see can I get through the tempo run tomorrow, if not I will have to get someone to take a look at it

catweazle

With two painkillers down me and a liberal spraying of Deep Heat I set out on my tempo run, within 50ms down the road and the pain worse than yesterday I decided what the feck am I at......... I am only making it worse and walked back to the house.

Looks like my running career is going to be shelved and I am back to the triathlon training again. I haven't bothered going to the physio but from every internet doctors advice I have googled it looks like rest is what is prescribed in all cases for an abdominal strain. So no more running till the pain goes away.

Whilst this is a total pain as regards the Dublin Marathon I am not overly bothered yet, I know I was running well and I don't need a Dublin Marathon time to confirm that.

Bit late for the pool now - but lunch will be used to get the shed ready for the Pussywagons reappearance and I will see if I can blag a visit to the pool later and see if I can swim unfettered

sconhome

Tough luck CW

Dory Dory

Is it your lower abs that hurt?? If so, I had a similar issue and it took a few months to totally heal (started hurting immediately after the marathon in April....healed this summer while tri training). I'm fine now, but while it was an issue it even hurt when I did flip turns in the pool. Rest up....and enjoy the training you do.

RedB

Bummer

At least it wasn't an A race and like you say, you know you're running well so just shelve that thought until you next need it for Tri training

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

Sorry to hear that CW you were going well.

BennyMul

sorry CW, thats a true pain. you should be able to build on your running for next season.