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Annoying Pronunciations.

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    #152
    Jev/N
    Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Also, I - talians


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    #153
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    micropig wrote: »
    Could you be more pacific?

    i pronounce it this way or spacific, can't seem to say it properly and in my last job had to talk about specific heat capacity a lot, I'm scarleh thinking about it:-P

    i laugh when i hear people say car-pen-ter

    What's wrong with that? Isn't that how everyone says it?
    Do you mean when people put the emphasis on the second or third syllables?

    Side note: I think these "annoying pronunciaton" threads need a standardised system for expressing syllable-emphasis in written form.
    I suggest writing the emphasised syllable in bold.


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    #154
    Ashbourne hoop
    Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    Crips intstead of crisps does my head in as does safety pronounced saf-e-ty...don't know where that has come from. Michael McMullen on Today FM saying Orsenal insteas of Arsenal also annoys me.


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    #155
    Wurly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭Wurly


    I know both are acceptable but it really gets on my tits when people pronounce lickrish (liquorice) as lickiriss. grrr


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    #156
    Thegoodwife
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Thegoodwife


    i know someone who has trouble with certain words. She pronounces onion .. oingyun and Aine is Awingya! I wanted to call one of my kids Aine but i couldn't cause i knew it would drive me bananas! Also - i had a friend who used to call my brother Eoin ... Ooown! Maddening!


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    #157
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    micropig wrote: »
    Could you be more pacific?

    i pronounce it this way or spacific, can't seem to say it properly and in my last job had to talk about specific heat capacity a lot, I'm scarleh thinking about it:-P

    i laugh when i hear people say car-pen-ter

    What's wrong with that? Isn't that how everyone says it?
    Do you mean when people put the emphasis on the second or third syllables?

    Side note: I think these "annoying pronunciaton" threads need a standardised system for expressing syllable-emphasis in written form.
    I suggest writing the emphasised syllable in bold.

    same emphasis on each syllable with a pause at the hyphen (best i can explain it)


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    #158
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    micropig wrote: »
    same emphasis on each syllable with a pause at the hyphen (best i can explain it)

    That sounds ok to me (though I'd put a slight emphasis on the first syllable), unless it's a noticeably long pause.

    Maybe I've been saying it wrong the whole time!


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    #159
    whitewave
    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭whitewave


    bit of a kerry thing, but people saying "air-eee" instead of area, and "commmm-it-eee" for committee

    so annoying


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    #160
    Batsy
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    I hate it when Irish people pronounce "th" as "t". So they pronounce "third" as "turd."


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    #161
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Batsy wrote: »
    I hate it when Irish people pronounce "th" as "t". So they pronounce "third" as "turd."

    If they were talking to you directly, they may not have meant "third." :pac:


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    #162
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    micropig wrote: »
    same emphasis on each syllable with a pause at the hyphen (best i can explain it)

    That sounds ok to me (though I'd put a slight emphasis on the first syllable), unless it's a noticeably long pause.

    Maybe I've been saying it wrong the whole time!

    i think that's what it is, too long of a pause between each syllable, saying each as a separate word.


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    #163
    Batsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    If they were talking to you directly, they may not have meant "third." :pac:

    No. They say on the telly. I heard Bob Geldof saying it on Top Gear the other day, too. It's annoying.


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    #164
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    micropig wrote: »
    i think that's what it is, too long of a pause between each syllable, saying each as a separate word.

    Does this person do it with other words as well?
    Does he look like this?


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    #165
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Batsy wrote: »
    No. They say on the telly. I heard Bob Geldof saying it on Top Gear the other day, too. It's annoying.

    Some people do indeed pronounce it that way, but not all Irish people do. No-one from my neck of the woods does.


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    #166
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Batsy wrote: »
    The King of Moo wrote: »
    If they were talking to you directly, they may not have meant "third." :pac:

    No. They say on the telly. I heard Bob Geldof saying it on Top Gear the other day, too. It's annoying.

    Lets all copy you and say fird..


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    #167
    Batsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    RichieC wrote: »
    Lets all copy you and say fird..

    I pronounce "third" the way it should be. I can pronounce both of the "th" sounds.


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    #168
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Does this person do it with other words as well?
    Does he look like this?

    More like http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://alittleinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/old_toothless_man_laughing-150x150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://alittleinsanity.com/archives/2009/05/sometimes-you-need-to-laugh/&h=150&w=150&sz=9&tbnid=6nRMhAmcAmWsCM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=90&zoom=1&docid=TnGfifcGySTu2M&sa=X&ei=upAVT9upBMrPhAex9MyoAg&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAw&dur=36

    or this
    http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=man&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1T4RNRN_enIE412IE412&biw=1366&bih=566&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=S0wsX6IprhlqIM:&imgrefurl=http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Man_Armor_MK_II_(Earth-199999)&docid=N2Rb43SqU41KoM&imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/6/69/Im_mk2.jpg&w=1154&h=1800&ei=eJIVT4XbN42yhAfswMmnAg&zoom=1

    the variety is amazing, but the geographical area where this is used is probably small :D


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    #169
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Batsy wrote: »
    I pronounce "third" the way it should be. I can pronounce both of the "th" sounds.

    You should put that on your CV.


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    #170
    Batsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    sensibleken wrote: »
    You should put that on your CV.

    It looks like I've hit a nerve.

    It seems to be okay for posters on this thread to write things like "and when british people put an r at the end of words...like hannar instead of just hanna" and "When people (usually English) add "k" to "ng" words, and random "r"s to words where there are none. Examples: "Nothingk, anythingk, waitingk, etc" but when someone mocks the way the Irish speak that person is suddenly attacked.

    It seems like mocking the way the English speak is fine, but mocking the way the irish speak isn't.


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    #171
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Batsy wrote: »
    sensibleken wrote: »
    You should put that on your CV.

    It looks like I've hit a nerve.

    It seems to be okay for posters on this thread to write things like "and when british people put an r at the end of words...like hannar instead of just hanna" and "When people (usually English) add "k" to "ng" words, and random "r"s to words where there are none. Examples: "Nothingk, anythingk, waitingk, etc" but when someone mocks the way the Irish speak that person is suddenly attacked.

    It seems like mocking the way the English speak is fine, but mocking the way the irish speak isn't.

    Never heard "turd" "troath" "heighth" "threadmill" "chimley" or "modren" until I moved to Ireland.

    It's atrocious over here and people use this Hiberno-English excuse instead of acknowledging stupidity.


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    #172
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Batsy wrote: »
    It looks like I've hit a nerve.

    It seems to be okay for posters on this thread to write things like "and when british people put an r at the end of words...like hannar instead of just hanna" and "When people (usually English) add "k" to "ng" words, and random "r"s to words where there are none. Examples: "Nothingk, anythingk, waitingk, etc" but when someone mocks the way the Irish speak that person is suddenly attacked.

    It seems like mocking the way the English speak is fine, but mocking the way the irish speak isn't.

    Where were you attacked? I'd say it was the blacks that did it any case. But you jut try and complain and nobody'll listen. Them's the breaks of being a straight white male with a perfect command of his TH sounds.


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    #173
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Batsy wrote: »
    sensibleken wrote: »
    You should put that on your CV.

    It looks like I've hit a nerve.

    It seems to be okay for posters on this thread to write things like "and when british people put an r at the end of words...like hannar instead of just hanna" and "When people (usually English) add "k" to "ng" words, and random "r"s to words where there are none. Examples: "Nothingk, anythingk, waitingk, etc" but when someone mocks the way the Irish speak that person is suddenly attacked.

    It seems like mocking the way the English speak is fine, but mocking the way the irish speak isn't.

    no offense meant, just thought it was a witty remark, i got slagged a bit over this when living in the UK, no problem mocking the way the Irish speak, sure its all just a bit if banter!


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    #174
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Batsy wrote: »
    It looks like I've hit a nerve.

    It seems to be okay for posters on this thread to write things like "and when british people put an r at the end of words...like hannar instead of just hanna" and "When people (usually English) add "k" to "ng" words, and random "r"s to words where there are none. Examples: "Nothingk, anythingk, waitingk, etc" but when someone mocks the way the Irish speak that person is suddenly attacked.

    It seems like mocking the way the English speak is fine, but mocking the way the irish speak isn't.
    summerskin wrote: »
    Never heard "turd" "troath" "heighth" "threadmill" "chimley" or "modren" until I moved to Ireland.

    It's atrocious over here and people use this Hiberno-English excuse instead of acknowledging stupidity.

    Some Irish people pronounce some words a certain way.

    Some English people pronounce some words a different way.

    So what?

    It doesn't necessarily make people stupid. There's an incredible variety of pronunciations of English words across the English-speaking word: it's part of the amazing flexibility of the language, which makes it silly to insist on strict definitions of "correct" pronunciation as there's no real universal standard to base that on.

    If you know what the person is saying, then I don't see why it's a problem.


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    #175
    summerskin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    Batsy wrote: »
    It looks like I've hit a nerve.

    It seems to be okay for posters on this thread to write things like "and when british people put an r at the end of words...like hannar instead of just hanna" and "When people (usually English) add "k" to "ng" words, and random "r"s to words where there are none. Examples: "Nothingk, anythingk, waitingk, etc" but when someone mocks the way the Irish speak that person is suddenly attacked.

    It seems like mocking the way the English speak is fine, but mocking the way the irish speak isn't.
    summerskin wrote: »
    Never heard "turd" "troath" "heighth" "threadmill" "chimley" or "modren" until I moved to Ireland.

    It's atrocious over here and people use this Hiberno-English excuse instead of acknowledging stupidity.

    Some Irish people pronounce some words a certain way.

    Some English people pronounce some words a different way.

    So what?

    It doesn't necessarily make people stupid. There's an incredible variety of pronunciations of English words across the English-speaking word: it's part of the amazing flexibility of the language, which makes it silly to insist on strict definitions of "correct" pronunciation as there's no real universal standard to base that on.

    If you know what the person is saying, then I don't see why it's a problem.


    Valid point and well made.






    Still bugs the crap out of me though, especially in a business environment or when used by professional broadcasters.


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    #176
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Batsy wrote: »
    It looks like I've hit a nerve.

    It seems to be okay for posters on this thread to write things like "and when british people put an r at the end of words...like hannar instead of just hanna" and "When people (usually English) add "k" to "ng" words, and random "r"s to words where there are none. Examples: "Nothingk, anythingk, waitingk, etc" but when someone mocks the way the Irish speak that person is suddenly attacked.

    It seems like mocking the way the English speak is fine, but mocking the way the irish speak isn't.

    You thought that was an attack? Jesus, no wonder you guys start so many wars.


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    #177
    force eleven
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    Love to watch 'fillums' on the telly...


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    #178
    I am pie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Pronunciation can be all down to regional accents, fine. However the amount of times I've seen people go out of their way to spell 'thought' as 'taught' is ****ing baffling.

    i.e: "I taught it was spelt this way"


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    #179
    Niles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    I am pie wrote: »
    Pronunciation can be all down to regional accents, fine. However the amount of times I've seen people go out of their way to spell 'thought' as 'taught' is ****ing baffling.

    i.e: "I taught it was spelt this way"

    Your right. There spelling it the wrong way. ;)


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    #180
    sensibleken
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Why is it that some Irish people have a problem with the TH sound? by which I mean that sometimes people insert a TH where it shouldnt be (Heigth) for example, then the same person might say True (meaning Through)! Invariably the reason given will be something to do with the Irish/Gaelic language in the subconsious mind of an Irish peron! < I dont buy this.

    Surely if you are able to say the TH sound, then that can't be the explanation as to why you can say it on some words, but not in udders :D

    Its just an accent thing. like how various english ones cant pronounce 'H'.


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    #181
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    sensibleken wrote: »
    Its just an accent thing. like how various english ones cant pronounce 'H'.

    I'm not so sure though, take Matt Cooper on the radio who is perfectly capable of saying 'This & that' while in the same sentence he will say 'True-out' meaning Throughout, he will also say Thought when he means Taught, (I was Thought Irish in school) would be an example!

    PS: Sorry to pick on that presenter, but he's a good example of what I'm talking about.


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