Running Events in Wexford

Ross Runner · 26-02-2013 7:51am

Was talking yo someone who got 9.86 on their garman! ran it last year and git something similar, thats why i wont run it again..... basic requirment is correct distance!!!!

Gavlor · 26-02-2013 8:57am

Ross Runner wrote: »

Was talking yo someone who got 9.86 on their garman! ran it last year and git something similar, thats why i wont run it again..... basic requirment is correct distance!!!!

I have 6.19miles recorded which is fairly spot on. Tell your friend to stop taking shortcuts

wextipp · 26-02-2013 12:32pm

Gavlor wrote: »

I have 6.19miles recorded which is fairly spot on. Tell your friend to stop taking shortcuts

That's about 40 meters short. Not too bad. Should always be measured longer though and with a wheel or a Jones counter. If it is not measured and certified you never know what distance it is and it is not really a PB.

Ross Runner · 26-02-2013 1:44pm

Got 6.09 miles on my garman last year! thats about 150meters short... i asked them sunday were they starting in the same spot and they said yes!!! imo the course is short! unless its cetrified you cant say it isnt.... fair play to them on their organisation and running of the race but getting certified wouldnt cost much and would give them more credability....

donalg1 · 26-02-2013 1:47pm

Sure running on the inside of the route could theoretically shorten the distance by 40m over 10k especially if the distance is measured up the middle of the roads. So you could have three people running side by side and all running different distances.

RayCun · 26-02-2013 1:58pm

donalg1 wrote: »

Sure running on the inside of the route could theoretically shorten the distance by 40m over 10k especially if the distance is measured up the middle of the roads.

Distance should not be measured up the middle of the road, the race line is the shortest possible route.

Oryx · 26-02-2013 3:02pm

Garmins are inaccurate too. Though the only way to know for sure, is like you say, a Jones counter.

wextipp · 26-02-2013 3:09pm

Oryx wrote: »

Garmins are inaccurate too. Though the only way to know for sure, is like you say, a Jones counter.

Correct, a Garmin is not an acceptable method to measure a course. Jones counter is the only way and even then it can get very tricky to measure when you have a lot of bends on the route. I've have seen our local guy measuring the route for the 10k and it can take several attempts. It takes a lot of skill and experience to do it properly. Also, he will measure the course again this year to make sure.

Ross Runner · 26-02-2013 3:09pm

Exactly! if the course is not certified you cant count it!! i find certified courses come up fairly accurate on the garmin.... usualy within 20 meters, well thts my experience...

wextipp · 26-02-2013 3:12pm

Ross Runner wrote: »

Exactly! if the course is not certified you cant count it!! i find certified courses come up fairly accurate on the garmin.... usualy within 20 meters, well thts my experience...

It should never be under the distance, even by 5 meters. A good course measurer will have it slightly longer.

donalg1 · 26-02-2013 3:21pm

RayCun wrote: »

Distance should not be measured up the middle of the road, the race line is the shortest possible route.

I know this but my point was that there will be one line measured for the distance and not every runner will run on this line so they wont run the exact distance, some will run further and some will run shorter.

wextipp · 26-02-2013 3:27pm

donalg1 wrote: »

I know this but my point was that there will be one line measured for the distance and not every runner will run on this line so they wont run the exact distance, some will run further and some will run shorter.

That will always be he case, even in an Olympic marathon. Put every runner as the option to run the shortest route and that can't be 150 to 200 meters less that the official distance. It's unfair on entrants thinking they have set a PB when they havn't.

Oryx · 26-02-2013 3:29pm

the race line is the shortest possible route.

donalg1 wrote:

and not every runner will run on this line so they wont run the exact distance.....and some will run shorter

Huh?

RayCun · 26-02-2013 4:28pm

donalg1 wrote: »

I know this but my point was that there will be one line measured for the distance and not every runner will run on this line so they wont run the exact distance, some will run further and some will run shorter.

Some will run shorter than others, but nobody will run shorter than the race line. If the course has been measured properly at 10k nobody can run shorter than 10k. Either their Garmin is wrong, or the distance, or both.

donalg1 · 26-02-2013 4:58pm

Oryx wrote: »

Huh?

Ha didnt see the part about it being the shortest possible route but is it really the shortest possible route that is measured, what do they use to measure it anyway.

wextipp · 26-02-2013 5:09pm

donalg1 wrote: »

Ha didnt see the part about it being the shortest possible route but is it really the shortest possible route that is measured, what do they use to measure it anyway.

One of these yokes.
http://www.jonescounter.com/

donalg1 · 26-02-2013 5:53pm

wextipp wrote: »

One of these yokes.
http://www.jonescounter.com/

So like a fancy trundle wheel then, so how can this be guaranteed to measure the shortest route.

For instance you come to an S bend in the road so the shortest route around this is the inside left then cross and go on the inside right, but at what point do you cross the road, and do you go straight across it or at an angle and if at an angle what degree do you cross to ensure its the shortest route possible.

Cooldog · 26-02-2013 6:08pm

Interesting debate going on here, from what I know using jones counter the course is maked the shortest way possible to run the course eg: running the tangents, for this reason you will nearly always get garmin distances longer that race distances.
My question is why they measure the course using the shortest possible route (running the tangents) when at the start of most races you are told either to keep to one side of the road or other primarily for safety reasons, surely the course should be measured by the running line you are expecting people to take.

BeepBeep67 · 26-02-2013 6:25pm

Some bedtime reading attached to help with the debate

An interesting addition to the shortest possible route (meaning the route the athlete is allowed to follow) is the 'short course prevention factor'

For bicycle measurements this factor should be 0.1% which means that each km on the course will have a “measured length“ of 1001m.

menoscemo · 26-02-2013 6:30pm

^^^^^^^^
An unqualified course measurer somehow misread the 0.1% rule as meaning 10% last year thus causing a few of us ran a 14.4 mile Half marathon. :pac:

I guess he mistook a 'tenth of one percent' as meaning 'a tenth'.

RayCun · 26-02-2013 8:08pm

Cooldog wrote: »

My question is why they measure the course using the shortest possible route (running the tangents) when at the start of most races you are told either to keep to one side of the road or other primarily for safety reasons, surely the course should be measured by the running line you are expecting people to take.

If only one side of the road is used by the race, the course should be measured on that side of the road.

Dilbert75 · 26-02-2013 8:23pm

I normally plan for 1% extra distance on top of the race distance - for example DCM12 measured 42.6km vs. 42.2km - to allow for not taking the racing line. Some courses which are straighter are closer to regulation but it shouldn't be possible to run the course shorter than the distance.

I don't know exactly what the distance of that route is - I could forgive it being short the first time of running but not a second.

druss · 15-03-2013 11:23pm

Anyone know what the course for the Davy Fortune 5km in Enniscorthy of St Patricks Day is like?

Brianer69er · 16-03-2013 10:41am

druss wrote: »

Anyone know what the course for the Davy Fortune 5km in Enniscorthy of St Patricks Day is like?

It's a nice course. It is two 2.5k laps starting at shamrocks gaa club. Slight drag at the start for 1K but nice downhill on d other side of the loop.
It is chip timing also this year so is great value and lovely feed after too which is always nice. A great way to kick off your Paddys Day.

Donelson · 30-03-2013 7:06pm

anybody doing the rosslare 10km on Monday? conditioned look pretty good and if last year's results are anything to go by it a decent course.

druss · 02-04-2013 11:59am

Donelson wrote: »

anybody doing the rosslare 10km on Monday? conditioned look pretty good and if last year's results are anything to go by it a decent course.

I'd hoped to do this and to get a bit closer to 40 min for the 10k. In the end, I decided that I really needed to get some more long runs in, with the town half marathon only three weeks away. Still slightly regret it though!

@ Donelson, did you give it a go?

Times are here.

trigger26 · 02-04-2013 12:44pm

Was a pretty cold morning in Rosslare yesterday, didn't do it in preparation for the Senior 10k in Ferns this week. Anyone know much about the course there?

Ross Runner · 02-04-2013 1:21pm

Flat and fast!!!!

Donelson · 02-04-2013 6:39pm

druss wrote: »

I'd hoped to do this and to get a bit closer to 40 min for the 10k. In the end, I decided that I really needed to get some more long runs in, with the town half marathon only three weeks away. Still slightly regret it though!

@ Donelson, did you give it a go?

Times are here.

yip, went with out the garmin, went out too fast so faded badly on the second lap. nice course, would have been better without the wind but you can't have everything!

bewleys berry · 04-04-2013 8:49am

trigger26 wrote: »

Was a pretty cold morning in Rosslare yesterday, didn't do it in preparation for the Senior 10k in Ferns this week. Anyone know much about the course there?

Here's a little map of the course for Sundays County Wexford senior road races (just to fill out what Ross Runner said

)....... it's one lap for the women (5k) and two laps for the men (10k). Reg and start for both races are on the square in Ferns and the finish will also be there. There'll be tea and refreshments in ''The Thatch'' afterwards also.

www.runningmap.com/?id=522454

druss · 04-04-2013 10:19am

bewleys berry wrote: »

Here's a little map of the course for Sundays County Wexford senior road races (just to fill out what Ross Runner said )....... it's one lap for the women (5k) and two laps for the men (10k). Reg and start for both races are on the square in Ferns and the finish will also be there. There'll be tea and refreshments in ''The Thatch'' afterwards also.

www.runningmap.com/?id=522454

Not that I'll be doing this one, but is that basically the Mick Murphy 4 Mile minus the first loop of the village?

And (more importantly from my point of view!) will the 4 Mile be back in September?

bewleys berry · 04-04-2013 10:46pm

druss wrote: »

Not that I'll be doing this one, but is that basically the Mick Murphy 4 Mile minus the first loop of the village?

And (more importantly from my point of view!) will the 4 Mile be back in September?

Exactly Druss, it's the Mick Murphy without having to climb the hill up by the church twice so should be a good course and fair for both the ladies and men

Yeah the four miler will be back on again but we're planning on having it on Saturday August 31st so everyone can provisionally stick it in their diary until we get confirmation over the next couple of weeks

Cooldog · 16-04-2013 5:37pm

Looks like the Co. Intermediate has been moved from Ballycarney to the Old Dublin Road, can anyone please confirm or deny this.
Hopefully it's not multiple laps of the little loops used for the county novice, I am all for spectator friendly races but a novel idea might be to think of the athletes first!!!.

trigger26 · 17-04-2013 3:39pm

Looks like it's been confirmed the move to Old Dublin Road from a post by Slaney Olympic on facebook

Cooldog · 17-04-2013 4:51pm

trigger26 wrote: »

Looks like it's been confirmed the move to Old Dublin Road from a post by Slaney Olympic on facebook

Thanks anyone got any idea of the route, will be on the small loop or the bigger loop running heading out to scarawalsh and back in the old Dublin road.

wextipp · 18-05-2013 3:08pm

hypersonic · 18-05-2013 4:37pm

it's a real pity that neither adamstown or foulkesmills 10ks are certified courses. I would like another shot at a 10k pb but with out the course being officially measured I'd always have a niggling doubt.

druss · 20-05-2013 12:42pm

wextipp wrote: »

Upcoming races
Name|Distance|Distance AAI certified|Chip|Date|Organizer|Location|Entry Fee
Strawberry Half marathon|13.1 mile|Yes|yes|Sun, 26th May, 2013|Slaney Olympic AC|Enniscorthy|40
Strawberry 5 mile|5 mile|Yes|yes|Sun, 26th May, 2014|Slaney Olympic AC|Enniscorthy|25
Kilmore Quay 5k|5k|Yes|No|Sat, 6th July, 2013|Kilmore AC|Kilmore Quay|10
Adamstown 10k|10km|No|yes|Sun, 28th July 2013|Adamstown GAA|Adamstown|20
Foulkesmills 10k|10km|No|no|Sat, 24th August 2013|Clongeen GAA|Foulkesmill|15
Mick Murphy 4 Mile Road|4 mile|Yes|yes|Sat, 31st August 2013|SBR AC|Ferns|17
Kilmore 10k|10k|Yes|No|Sat, 14th Sep, 2013|Kilmore AC|Kilmore Village|15

I was going to ask what happend to the Oylegate 10k and half marathon. I got a flyer for it on the day of the Wexford Half, which referred potential entrants to Run Ireland. It wasn't available online though. It has now appeared on Run Ireland today.

Also there are the Slaney Olympic events. I haven't done any of these yet, but they seem to be well supported.

http://www.slaneyolympic.com/2013/04/20/summer-league-programme-2013/#more-1367

wextipp · 20-05-2013 3:46pm

druss · 20-05-2013 4:26pm

wextipp wrote: »

Added the Oylegate pair of races and the Slaney League ones. Have SBR a league this year. Anybody know anything about this race The Wildkatz 10k

I know I won't be doing it, mainly because it clashes with the Kilmore 5k! And i'm not a huge fan of the entry fee and a minimum fundraising target type set-up.

I'm almost sure that it had registration open before and that the website linked on Run Ireland worked.

wextipp · 20-05-2013 4:40pm

druss wrote: »

I know I won't be doing it, mainly because it clashes with the Kilmore 5k! And i'm not a huge fan of the entry fee and a minimum fundraising target type set-up.

I'm almost sure that it had registration open before and that the website linked on Run Ireland worked.

I'll leave it off for the moment. There doesn't seem to be that much info on it and the registration is not available as you said.

bewleys berry · 20-05-2013 5:39pm

druss wrote: »

I know I won't be doing it, mainly because it clashes with the Kilmore 5k! And i'm not a huge fan of the entry fee and a minimum fundraising target type set-up.

I'm almost sure that it had registration open before and that the website linked on Run Ireland worked.

Well I know which race I'll be doing that day!! - the Kilmore 5k, a really unique race, well organised with a great atmosphere...... about the SBR Summer league, we'll prob be starting it late June but nothing decided just yet as our Spring league isn't long over

wextipp · 20-05-2013 7:12pm

Has anybody run the in any of the Park Runs

I wonder could something similar be set-up in Wexford if some of the clubs came together. It seems straight forward enough to set-up.

Runners sign up on the web-site and are e-mailed a printable tag with a barcode. This identifies them. You can laminate this. You simple turn up at the organized run and take part. When you finish you are handed a tag with a barcode which is your position. You then bring your tags to be scanned. The times are recored as the runners some in and matched up by the computer system. This could easily be done on cheap android tablets.

Dilbert75 · 20-05-2013 7:49pm

Thought about that and thought the jfk park would be a lovely place for it - Johnstown Castle too. But the official park run is expensive to get going and I'm not sure how state bodies would look on it.

wextipp · 20-05-2013 11:18pm

Dilbert75 wrote: »

Thought about that and thought the jfk park would be a lovely place for it - Johnstown Castle too. But the official park run is expensive to get going and I'm not sure how state bodies would look on it.

Yes, the park run is expensive, thousands I believe !. The technology is very simple though. A website to allow registration and generation of the barcoded id. An inexpensive lap-top or tablet plus barcode scanner to record the finsishers and a tablet to record the times. Would be an interesting project.

Podge83 · 22-05-2013 3:25pm

druss wrote: »

I know I won't be doing it, mainly because it clashes with the Kilmore 5k! And i'm not a huge fan of the entry fee and a minimum fundraising target type set-up.

I'm almost sure that it had registration open before and that the website linked on Run Ireland worked.

Also clashes with Rosslare Triathlon. Busy day!!

wextipp · 28-05-2013 8:23am

Anybody seen results from the Taghmon 10k. Can't find them anywhere.

druss · 30-05-2013 12:29am

wextipp wrote: »

Anybody know anything about this race The Wildkatz 10k

druss wrote: »

I know I won't be doing it, mainly because it clashes with the Kilmore 5k! And i'm not a huge fan of the entry fee and a minimum fundraising target type set-up.

I'm almost sure that it had registration open before and that the website linked on Run Ireland worked.

Podge83 wrote: »

Also clashes with Rosslare Triathlon. Busy day!!

And now Surf n'Turf Half Marathon and 10k out in Curracloe on the same day!

Somethings got to give...

Cooldog · 30-05-2013 7:33am

Isn't it great that there is now such quantity of races in Wexford, for year's we had to travel to Dublin and Waterford and further just to get races.
What these 3 races on the same day gives us is a chance to vote with out feet and chose the 5K in Kilmore a race that isn't trying to rip us off with being overpriced like some (not all) races are trying to do (you know who they are).

Long may the volume of races in Wexford continue, I think the only 2 race distances that are not catered for in the county at the moment are a 10 miler and a marathon. Hopefully that day will come.

wextipp · 30-05-2013 8:27am

40 Euro to enter, that really has to take the biscuit. You can see how the Strawberry and Wexford Half could justify that as it is run on public roads and requires a lot more organization and management. This one is run on the beach, forest and the quite country roads with zero traffic and will require very little stewarding etc. Well I'm presuming it will be zero traffic. What happens if it is a nice sunny day and half of Wexford want to hit the beaches. It can be mayhem out there at the best of times on a hot day.

Having said all that it is good for people to have a choice of so many races.

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