Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

gebbel

Chelski winning tonight is worse than Yids into CL for this gunner

tayto lover

gebbel wrote: »

Chelski winning tonight is worse than Yids into CL for this gunner

Bale to Arsenal.

jester77

According to the German TV commentator, Chelsea are in the groups, Arsenal in the qualifiers & Spurs Europa league. I thought we were defo in the groups, anyone got an official link to the correct info?

Soups123

Off to Spurs forum back in 5 minutes

i would like to congratulate 'Arrry' and Spurs for the terrific record they set tonight. Knocked out of the 2013 champions league, in MAY 2012. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

UnknownSpecies

Deleted User wrote: »

i would like to congratulate 'Arrry' and Spurs for the terrific record they set tonight. Knocked out of the 2013 champions league, in MAY 2012. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

*triffic

HazDanz

jester77 wrote: »

According to the German TV commentator, Chelsea are in the groups, Arsenal in the qualifiers & Spurs Europa league. I thought we were defo in the groups, anyone got an official link to the correct info?

That has to be wrong. Third definitely gets you to the group stages.

tony1kenobi

Well done Chelsea.Who gives a fook about Spurs?Honest.They are not important.And nor are Chelsea.So well done to them for winning.Makes for an interesting Saturday and nothing more.

greendom

Ian Dennis from Radio 5 Live has confirmed that all 4 English teams qualify for the group stages. Someone has to lose out but it's not Arsenal

UnknownSpecies

tony1kenobi wrote: »

Well done Chelsea.Who gives a fook about Spurs?Honest.They are not important.And nor are Chelsea.So well done to them for winning.Makes for an interesting Saturday and nothing more.

To be fair, it's nice to shove their shite talk from earlier this year right up their arses

jester77

HazDanz wrote: »

jester77 wrote: »

According to the German TV commentator, Chelsea are in the groups, Arsenal in the qualifiers & Spurs Europa league. I thought we were defo in the groups, anyone got an official link to the correct info?

That has to be wrong. Third definitely gets you to the group stages.

That's what I thought, but when you think about it, Spurs are pushed down to Europa and if England get 3 groups & 1 qualifier then who takes the qualifier?

greendom

greendom wrote: »

Ian Dennis from Radio 5 Live has confirmed that all 4 English teams qualify for the group stages. Someone has to lose out but it's not Arsenal

Lowest placed team of the lowest ranked league of the 16 teams that normally automatically qualify??? i dunno..

tony1kenobi

dorgasm wrote: »

To be fair, it's nice to shove their shite talk from earlier this year right up their arses

Yea but it's nicer to sit back and not say it.We knew it.They are pathetic and we knew what would happen.So be gunnerly and let them wallow.Wallow wallow wallow.......4th means nothing.

HazDanz

jester77 wrote: »

That's what I thought, but when you think about it, Spurs are pushed down to Europa and if England get 3 groups & 1 qualifier then who takes the qualifier?

All 4 English clubs are straight into the group stages. Sky confirmed it there.

I don't know who is losing out, it's not the English clubs anyways (except for Spurs obviously :P).

jonneymendoza

does this sound bizare that my spurs mate is congratulating chelsea and defending them as a team against others who say chelsea where lucky to win it? he should be fuming at them lol!

Anyways what does this mean. Should wenger park the bus to try and win trophies?

Seems like you eitehr have to throw a lot of money to your club and/or park the bus in order to be succesful

UnknownSpecies

jonneymendoza wrote: »

does this sound bizare that my spurs mate is congratulating chelsea and defending them as a team against others who say chelsea where lucky to win it? he should be fuming at them lol!

Anyways what does this mean. Should wenger park the bus to try and win trophies?

Seems like you eitehr have to throw a lot of money to your club and/or park the bus in order to be succesful

If these are the only way to win a trophy, we won't win a trophy under Wenger

Oranage2

dorgasm wrote: »

If these are the only way to win a trophy, we won't win a trophy under Wenger

It looks like defenders win cups - attackers win leagues.

HazDanz

jonneymendoza wrote: »

does this sound bizare that my spurs mate is congratulating chelsea and defending them as a team against others who say chelsea where lucky to win it? he should be fuming at them lol!

Spurs only have themselves to blame. The only person they should blame for their lack of champions league football is themselves. It should never have come down to Chelsea winning after the fcuk ups we made and the opportunities they should have capitalized on.

greendom

jonneymendoza wrote: »

does this sound bizare that my spurs mate is congratulating chelsea and defending them as a team against others who say chelsea where lucky to win it? he should be fuming at them lol!

Anyways what does this mean. Should wenger park the bus to try and win trophies?

Seems like you eitehr have to throw a lot of money to your club and/or park the bus in order to be succesful

not park the bus but defend with a bit more organisation. We could never have kept Bayern to one goal with the possession they had tonight.

UnknownSpecies

Oranage2 wrote: »

It looks like defenders win cups - attackers win leagues.

Well put. Arsenal break the trend of course

tayto lover

HazDanz wrote: »

Spurs only have themselves to blame. The only person they should blame for their lack of champions league football is themselves. It should never have come down to Chelsea winning after the fcuk ups we made and the opportunities they should have capitalized on.

Exactly. Spurs couldn't finish higher than the worst Arsenal team for years. They had everything going for them but psychologically were not able to grasp the prize. I can see a lot of their best players jumping ship now. With Giggs almost finished Fergie might even tempt Gale to United now.

tony1kenobi

tony1kenobi wrote: »

Yea but it's nicer to sit back and not say it.We knew it.They are pathetic and we knew what would happen.So be gunnerly and let them wallow.Wallow wallow wallow.......4th means nothing.

What are you on about?

"be gunnerly"

Jesus.


My Spurs mates won't be living this down after the shite I had to put up with this season.

"nicer to sit back and not say it"


You must be fun to watch the game with :rolleyes:

Soups123

I've only got one Spurs mate and he has his phone off if any of you want me to slag off your spur mates PM me there numbers I've 600free texts per month

jonneymendoza

Point is, Wenger needs to drop his ways and teach the team to park the bus or spend 200m buying the best attack minded players to try and create barca mk2 team i.e full of tippy tappy all out attack

UnknownSpecies

Deleted User wrote: »

What are you on about?

"be gunnerly"

Jesus.


My Spurs mates won't be living this down after the shite I had to put up with this season.

"nicer to sit back and not say it"


You must be fun to watch the game with :rolleyes:

I was actually going to comment on that. If ya ask me, it wouldn't 'be gunnerly' NOT to be happy

That's like if United won the league, asking them not to gloat to Citeh, will not happen.

Oranage2

dorgasm wrote: »

Well put. Arsenal break the trend of course

Yep, we attack and win nothing.

In a way I'm actually happy for Abramovich - Spending all that money and getting what he wants.

UnknownSpecies

All the same, while he might be happy, if I was a CHelsea fan it's feel a bit hollow. No disrespect, just how I imagine I'd feel!

HazDanz

dorgasm wrote: »

All the same, while he might be happy, if I was a CHelsea fan it's feel a bit hollow. No disrespect, just how I imagine I'd feel!

Why? You win the trophy, beat Barca and Bayern Munich en route by sticking to a gameplan that works best to the skills that you have at your disposal. Who will think back and remember the style in which the club won it, only that they did win it. If I was a fan of them the only thing that would matter to me is that the clubs name is on the trophy forever more.

UnknownSpecies

HazDanz wrote: »

Why? You win the trophy, beat Barca and Bayern Munich en route by sticking to a gameplan that works best to the skills that you have at your disposal. Who will think back and remember the style in which the club won it, only that they did win it. If I was a fan of them the only thing that would matter to me is that the clubs name is on the trophy forever more.

No no, I mean because of the way Chelsea have bought and built up their team since Abramovich bought em. It's like City winning the league, in my eyes they bought the league and it's a hollow victory.

HazDanz

dorgasm wrote: »

No no, I mean because of the way Chelsea have bought and built up their team since Abramovich bought em. It's like City winning the league, in my eyes they bought the league and it's a hollow victory.

Oh okay sorry, picked you up wrong. When we win it it'll be very sweet with the manner we go about it. Slow and declining wins the race :cool:

gebbel

dorgasm wrote: »

All the same, while he might be happy, if I was a CHelsea fan it's feel a bit hollow. No disrespect, just how I imagine I'd feel!

Chelsea fans won't give 2 hoots how the rest of us perceive them right now. That's what really bugs me to be honest.

UnknownSpecies

HazDanz wrote: »

Oh okay sorry, picked you up wrong. When we win it it'll be very sweet with the manner we go about it. Slow and declining wins the race :cool:

Now ya get me Win the right way!

Another 2 London Derbys' to contend with next season in the shape of West Ham with that connoisseur of sexy football Big Sam over them :mad:

Mickeroo

dorgasm wrote: »

All the same, while he might be happy, if I was a CHelsea fan it's feel a bit hollow. No disrespect, just how I imagine I'd feel!

i don't see Chelsea as quite as bad as city in that regard, they were a top 4 team before they were bought out. Plus its taken them years to win the CL, they had to earn it like everyone else, and if Arsenal had done it that way it wouldn't feel one bit hollow to me.

UnknownSpecies

Mickeroo wrote: »

i don't see Chelsea as quite as bad as city in that regard, they were a top 4 team before they were bought out. Plus its taken them years to win the CL, they had to earn it like everyone else, and if Arsenal had done it that way it wouldn't feel one bit hollow to me.

Hmm yeah possibly. But the foundations were built with all that money. The money is also what enticed the likes of Mata away from us. If they didn't have all the money, we would have the more attractive option. Same with Cahill too actually..

danlen

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Point is, Wenger needs to drop his ways and teach the team to park the bus or spend 200m buying the best attack minded players to try and create barca mk2 team i.e full of tippy tappy all out attack

Yeah thats what we need, our most successful manager of all time changing his philosophy to one that fits in with a manager that was deemed not good enough for WBA.

Honestly do people think its that simple. That us, armchair fans, can see things that AW can't??? Leave it so, he has done amazing with what he has at his disposal. So much so that people actually think we should be still challenging! Says a lot for AW if you ask me.

If we won one league title under AW and his philosophy it would mean more than having won ten leagues in a row as a City fan. That counts for something.

dorgasm

dorgasm wrote: »

Hmm yeah possibly. But the foundations were built with all that money. The money is also what enticed the likes of Mata away from us. If they didn't have all the money, we would have the more attractive option. Same with Cahill too actually..

Money doesn't buy you wins though. Ask City in this years CL!

I don't begrudge them their win at all.

Pi$$ed off that their the first London club to do it, but not about their moneyed ways. Asides, (And I may be going mental here - don't really pay much attention to other teams) but haven't they been fairly quiet in the transfer window of late? Obviously not including Torres in that! But they seem to be paying more of their managers off than buying new talent.

UnknownSpecies

Torres, Mata, Meireles, Cahill.. All would be pretty big signings for other clubs. Pretty big money and wages being thrown at em too. Like I said, don't think they're as bad as City are right now but they do get a lot of help from the Abramovich

batistuta9

dorgasm wrote: »

Hmm yeah possibly. But the foundations were built with all that money. The money is also what enticed the likes of Mata away from us. If they didn't have all the money, we would have the more attractive option. Same with Cahill too actually..

i'd think that for them players, you'd think you'd have more of a chance to win something at chelsea rather than with arsenal. I don't think arsenal are a more attractive option at all & won't be until they win something again or winning regularly.



on a side note i'd be in the shít supporters club forum now if i wasn't already banned. Stuff for them. disappointed with chelsea winning but every cloud has a silver lining

UnknownSpecies

If they never got the money, they would still be well below us. They never would have assembled all the players that now make them an attractive destination for big players.

Could ya not just sign out for a while to get in there :P

L'prof

HazDanz wrote: »

dorgasm wrote: »

All the same, while he might be happy, if I was a CHelsea fan it's feel a bit hollow. No disrespect, just how I imagine I'd feel!

Why? You win the trophy, beat Barca and Bayern Munich en route by sticking to a gameplan that works best to the skills that you have at your disposal. Who will think back and remember the style in which the club won it, only that they did win it. If I was a fan of them the only thing that would matter to me is that the clubs name is on the trophy forever more.

I felt a bit hollow winning the FA Cup in '05...I'd love to feel hollow again!!!

plasmaguy

Anzhi about to make an offer?*

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/anzhi-are-preapared-to-ofer-arsenal-striker-840339

*I know the mirror isn't always reliable

HazDanz

L'prof wrote: »

I felt a bit hollow winning the FA Cup in '05...I'd love to feel hollow again!!!

Getting proper excited for the Carling cup final last year struck home how long it's been without a trophy... Every cup we get knocked out of each year this is whats sent to me.

http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/

Fair annoying.

ImpossibleDuck

plasmaguy wrote: »

Anzhi about to make an offer?*

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/anzhi-are-preapared-to-ofer-arsenal-striker-840339

*I know the mirror isn't always reliable

I'm sure Van Persie's career goal is to win the Russian League. Not a hope will this happen. He's 29, been at a big club for quite a few years - he's made his money, he wants sucess.

AnCapaillMor

Mickeroo wrote: »

i don't see Chelsea as quite as bad as city in that regard, they were a top 4 team before they were bought out. Plus its taken them years to win the CL, they had to earn it like everyone else, and if Arsenal had done it that way it wouldn't feel one bit hollow to me.

Not as bad as city but still bad, they've always been poxy gits when it came to dosh, harding pumped alot of money into them and that was how they got top 4, they were very close to adminship when roman saved their assets. They started the crazy wages and city improved on it. Still though thank feck for the wba keeper.

batistuta9

dorgasm wrote: »

If they never got the money, they would still be well below us. They never would have assembled all the players that now make them an attractive destination for big players.

Could ya not just sign out for a while to get in there :P

if's & but's

I don't think anyone who chooses chelsea or man city over arsenal does so solely for money, they know rightly, same as everyone else where the most realistic place is to win trophies.

arsenal are a good proposition, maybe the best with man u, for a talented young player as they know they'll get game time & wenger's history regarding giving youth a chance/developing them. This is probably the only time their a more attractive option for a player.

I'd have them about 4th as the most attractive english club to play for

the rest of the time it comes down to the style of football played at arsenal & their still a big club with the potential to win things + the may fell they have the chance to play regularly at arsenal or if the players french/in the french league

Royale with Cheese

Its probably for the best that Chelsea are in next years champions league and not spurs, regardless of how hilarious it is. Chelsea have money, lots of it. Had they failed to qualify they'd have just spent big and bought their way back in. They are always going to be a threat when competing for a top 4 place.

Now that spurs have failed to qualify, their big players might be off and they won't have the money or European football to replace them. Hopefully they'll disappear back into mid table mediocrity. It's just like when spurs qualified the first time ahead of man city. I couldn't believe some people were happy with that, city were obviously going to qualify sooner or later due to their massive amount of money. Better in the long run to have less teams who are genuinely capable of finishing in the top 4. I know I'd rather be competing for the title than worrying about coming 4th every year, but it'd be a long way back for a club like arsenal were they to lose champions league football.

emergingstar

Last nights results could really damage spurs, they could loose a few of the big players and it's gonna be harder for them to attract big names too

I still have a big dislike for chelsea, I think Romans money stopped us having potentially our period of domination and changed the football landscape that we were on top off

Frisbee

If Chelsea don't offer Drogba a new contract we must.

Yeah we'll probably get outbid from China/Qatar but it's worth a shot as it means he could stay in London.

gosplan

dorgasm wrote: »

All the same, while he might be happy, if I was a CHelsea fan it's feel a bit hollow. No disrespect, just how I imagine I'd feel!

Don't think so Tbh.

I do think it's comical that one season after roman's move to embrace attacking football, chelsea have become the Greece of the CL.