Ice Hockey on TV

jack presley

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

But I'm 99% sure that all the games last season that were shown on Irish television were also on Gamecenter. In fact, I've never seen a blackout on any game on Gamecenter.

Can you remember whether that t&c was there last year? There was no blackout for Irish viewers of NFL's Gamepass last year either I don't think but there was this season.

alanmcl12

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

That is genuinely fantastic value. For access to 720 live regular season games and the playoffs, you'd be mad not to get it. Even for just the regular season, it is 99 days of constant hockey.

From the T&C's it does state:



But I'm 99% sure that all the games last season that were shown on Irish television were also on Gamecenter. In fact, I've never seen a blackout on any game on Gamecenter.

I can't find anything about if the playoffs are included. Sent an email and they said
"Registration for GameCenter Live in Europe and the Middle East is now available (except in Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Iceland where prohibited). The FAQs and Terms of Service will be updated shortly to reflect this change in territorial restrictions. We appreciate your patience in this matter."
So hopefully will find out soon. Still decent value if the playoffs aren't included.

I didn't experience and blackouts last year, just some intermission feeds weren't shown. Think blackouts only apply to U.S and Canada due local and national broadcasts

MrJoeSoap

COYW wrote: »

I mailed Setanta looking for confirmation regarding coverage but I got no reply. I just checked the listings and they have NHL marked on the schedule on Saturday night but there are no game details, so it could be a repeat from last season. I'll give them a call and ask them.

Edit : I called them and was told to drop customer services an email, as they are unsure whether or not they will be covering it this season. Customer services are not in the office today!

There aren't any games on live at 10pm-Midnight on Saturday so it can't be a live one. There are 8pm and midnight games on Saturday night.

jack presley wrote: »

Can you remember whether that t&c was there last year? There was no blackout for Irish viewers of NFL's Gamepass last year either I don't think but there was this season.

I'm fairly sure it was, but can't say for sure. I wouldn't be too worried about it in any case, since the amount of hockey shown here is minimal to say the least and Setanta haven't announced anything about showing games this season yet.

Dublinproud

K so I'm deffo getting Gamecentre now!

Any of you guys stream from your PS3? Thats the route i'll be going.

MrJoeSoap

Dublinproud wrote: »

K so I'm deffo getting Gamecentre now!

Any of you guys stream from your PS3? Thats the route i'll be going.

That's the one bad point from last season, it wasn't compatible with the PS3 outside North America.

Dublinproud

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

That's the one bad point from last season, it wasn't compatible with the PS3 outside North America.

CRAP! :mad:

aaronm13

That's a great price for regular season games. I was all on for signing up for hockeystreams.com this time as part of my protest but at that price I'd only be shooting myself in the foot. Was hoping the PS3 streaming was an option. Does anyone know if it will work with a US psn account as I have one.

jack presley

I like a lot of people are, am attracted by the price and I'd be a first time subscriber if I do sign up. I have a question for NHL regulars though, are there many games on during the afternoons (US time), well at weekends anyway? I'm getting old so the days of staying up til 3am watching telly are well gone now so it'd be just highlights or replays that I'd be watching the next day. But it'd be nice to get some live games at weekends.

aaronm13

jack presley wrote: »

I like a lot of people are, am attracted by the price and I'd be a first time subscriber if I do sign up. I have a question for NHL regulars though, are there many games on during the afternoons (US time), well at weekends anyway? I'm getting old so the days of staying up til 3am watching telly are well gone now so it'd be just highlights or replays that I'd be watching the next day. But it'd be nice to get some live games at weekends.

You can watch full games when it suits you so no staying up all night. Sunday usually has a game of the week which is on between 6-8 Irish time.

MrJoeSoap

jack presley wrote: »

I like a lot of people are, am attracted by the price and I'd be a first time subscriber if I do sign up. I have a question for NHL regulars though, are there many games on during the afternoons (US time), well at weekends anyway? I'm getting old so the days of staying up til 3am watching telly are well gone now so it'd be just highlights or replays that I'd be watching the next day. But it'd be nice to get some live games at weekends.

You can get an idea of the schedule here: http://www.nhl.com/ice/schedulebyseason.htm#?navid=nav-sch-sea

(Irish times below, not factoring in that glorious week of DST when the US time zones are an hour closer to us)

2 x 5pm starts
2 x 5.30pm starts
17 x 6pm starts
7 x 7pm starts
26 x 8pm starts
2 x 8.30pm starts
7 x 9pm starts
7 x 10pm starts
1 x 10.30pm start
15 x 11pm starts
216 x 12am starts
113 x 12.30am starts
104 x 1am starts
30 x 1.30am starts
36 x 2am starts
23 x 2.30am starts
67 x 3am starts
34 x 3.30am starts
1 x 4am start

cena

That is a great price. do the games come in none hd. I don't want to eat at the boardband allowance

MrJoeSoap

cena wrote: »

That is a great price. do the games come in none hd. I don't want to eat at the boardband allowance

Yes, you can choose the bandwidth you want to use. From memory it goes 300k, 600k and 1200k.

Fiery mutant

I was wondering about this. I can still log into Gamecenter and watch games on the iPad app. Still no indication of asking for a fee or anything, though that may change over the next few days.

But even if its 40 odd euro then it's well worth it for what yr getting.

MrJoeSoap

Fiery mutant wrote: »

I was wondering about this. I can still log into Gamecenter and watch games on the iPad app. Still no indication of asking for a fee or anything, though that may change over the next few days.

But even if its 40 odd euro then it's well worth it for what yr getting.

Was thinking that myself. Might leave it until opening day and see what happens... :cool:

Dublinproud

aaronm13 wrote: »

That's a great price for regular season games. I was all on for signing up for hockeystreams.com this time as part of my protest but at that price I'd only be shooting myself in the foot. Was hoping the PS3 streaming was an option. Does anyone know if it will work with a US psn account as I have one.[/QUO

I'd also like to know this as in is there a work around this problem?

Dont wanna get banned here!

jack presley

Reading on the NFLUK forum that premier Sports in the UK are claiming that they'll have blackouts on the games they'll be showing despite there never being blackouts over there before. This got me worried about us here as we never had blackouts before so I dropped a line off to their live chat. I simply asked "will there be a blackout in Ireland?" and this is what I got back

18:42Leo G.: At this time we are awaiting word from NHL regarding that issue in UK/Ireland.
18:42Leo G.: You'll need to check back later or tomorrow for better information.

Fiery mutant

As long as Gamecenter works I'll be happy enough. Still no sign of anything from them about a new subscription, watched game 7 of the Bruins Canucks series today. Great to have the hockey feeling back.

jack presley

Fiery mutant wrote: »

As long as Gamecenter works I'll be happy enough. Still no sign of anything from them about a new subscription, watched game 7 of the Bruins Canucks series today. Great to have the hockey feeling back.

Have you not seen this?

https://gamecenter.nhl.com/nhlgc/secure/gclsignup

Fiery mutant

jack presley wrote: »

Have you not seen this?

https://gamecenter.nhl.com/nhlgc/secure/gclsignup

Of course, I have it installed. What I mean is I can still log in and use but have got no request to renew subscription for this season. The app updated today to the 2013 version, but I can still access with my subscription from last season, and use all the features of a premium account. Now that may change in the next few days obviously.

jack presley

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Of course, I have it installed. What I mean is I can still log in and use but have got no request to renew subscription for this season. The app updated today to the 2013 version, but I can still access with my subscription from last season, and use all the features of a premium account. Now that may change in the next few days obviously.

Ah, ok. Sorry didn't understand what you meant. With a bit of luck it won't change!

Fiery mutant

Just out of interest as well, does anyone else here use NHL Vault to watch old games? I find it brilliant to watch some of the old classic series. What you get out of a NHL Gamecenter subscription, I've never found value like it in any other medium.

alanmcl12

Reading the HFBoards forum the NHL are saying there will be no blackouts in Europe as blackouts are for Nationally broadcast games.

But premier sports are saying the 15 games they cover will be. Don't know how that will effect Ireland. Hopefully they can't block out anything.

The playoffs should also be available here and only blacked out in US and Canada due to every game being nationally broadcast.

Hope this helps. This is where i gathered it all from http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1255673&page=35

MrJoeSoap

alanmcl12 wrote: »

Reading the HFBoards forum the NHL are saying there will be no blackouts in Europe as blackouts are for Nationally broadcast games.

But premier sports are saying the 15 games they cover will be. Don't know how that will effect Ireland. Hopefully they can't block out anything.

The playoffs should also be available here and only blacked out in US and Canada due to every game being nationally broadcast.

Hope this helps. This is where i gathered it all from http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1255673&page=35

It would be really shitty if Premier Sports games were blocked out for Irish users, since UPC customers don't even have the option to subscribe to Premier Sports. A tad unfair.

Hopefully not going to be the case, anyway.

jack presley

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

It would be really shitty if Premier Sports games were blocked out for Irish users, since UPC customers don't even have the option to subscribe to Premier Sports. A tad unfair.

Hopefully not going to be the case, anyway.

Can Sky subscribers get Premier Sports over here? I'm with UPC and can't get it. I think it's a bit cheeky them putting on their website "Live games selected for broadcast on Premier Sports are exclusive and therefore not shown on NHL Gamecenter Live within the Uk and Ireland" if you can't even get the channel here.

MrJoeSoap

jack presley wrote: »

Can Sky subscribers get Premier Sports over here?

As far as I know they can. I don't fancy switching TV providers for 15 NHL games...

jack presley

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

As far as I know they can. I don't fancy switching TV providers for 15 NHL games...

Nah, me neither. I was just curious.

I had a go at subscribing just to see and the only option in the 'country' field is the UK so I wonder can Sky customers get it. The more I think about it I doubt they can. They have GAA on PS so surely that would go against whatever deals the GAA have with RTE, TG4 etc.

Fiery mutant

What channel is it on ? I flicked through the listing on Sky and couldn't find it. My subscription is with sky not UPC.

MrJoeSoap

Fiery mutant wrote: »

What channel is it on ? I flicked through the listing on Sky and couldn't find it. My subscription is with sky not UPC.

Looking back through some threads on here, it looks like it was available in the past but isn't any longer. It's more for ex-pats in the UK, showing Airtricity League and GAA.

COYW

No reply from customer services but Setanta have updated their Irish site's NHL section with the following :

The Lock-out may have shortened the season but it has made the new season format all the more action packed. Last season’s NHL proved to be one with many twists and turns but in the end Los Angeles Kings were named 2012 Stanley Cup champions. This season Setanta Sports 1 will show up to 15 games each week and this year Setanta will also have the flagship NHL TONIGHT show which captures the best of the analysis and round-ups for all the games.

The first 2 months are half price and a €9.99 connection fee.

alanmcl12

Looks like their will be blackouts this year with Setanta carrying it.
The terms have been updated on the GCL page to:

"You may be blacked out of games on NHL GameCenter LIVE™ for one of the following reasons:
The game you are trying to access is being televised on a local over-the-air station and you are located within that station's signal.
The game you are trying to access is being televised on a regional sports network and your cable or satellite system falls within the distribution for that regional sports network (regardless of whether your cable or satellite system actually carries that regional sports network).
The game you are trying to access is being televised on a national network. In the U.S. this includes NBC, NBC Sports Network and NHL Network. In Canada this includes CBC, NHL Network™, RDS and TSN."

MrJoeSoap

alanmcl12 wrote: »

Looks like their will be blackouts this year with Setanta carrying it.
The terms have been updated on the GCL page to:

"You may be blacked out of games on NHL GameCenter LIVE™ for one of the following reasons:
The game you are trying to access is being televised on a local over-the-air station and you are located within that station's signal.
The game you are trying to access is being televised on a regional sports network and your cable or satellite system falls within the distribution for that regional sports network (regardless of whether your cable or satellite system actually carries that regional sports network).
The game you are trying to access is being televised on a national network. In the U.S. this includes NBC, NBC Sports Network and NHL Network. In Canada this includes CBC, NHL Network™, RDS and TSN."

I'd be fairly sure that was in the T&C's last year and applied to the US and Canada, but not Europe (or at least not Ireland). I'm more than happy to give it a bash and see what happens anyway, not going to miss too much over the first few days if there are blackouts.

COYW

Got a reply from Setanta this morning confirming that they will be showing NHL games this season starting on the 19th. The schedule is as follows :

Date – Time – Match – Setanta Sports 1 Coverage
Jan 19 – 8pm – Pittsburgh v Philadelphia – Live
Jan 19 – 8pm – Chicago v Los Angeles – Shown Sunday 09.00
Jan 19 – 12am – Toronto v Montreal – Live
Jan 19 – 12am – Washington v Tampa Bay – Shown Sunday 11.00
Jan 19 – 2am – Colorado v Minnesota – Join in Progress
Jan 20 – 5.30pm – Philadelphia v Buffalo – Live
Jan 20 – 1am – Dallas v Minnestota – Live
Mon 21 – 6pm – Winnipeg v Boston – Airing at 22.00
Mon 21 – 2am – Anaheim v Calgary – Live
Tue 22 – 12am – Tampa Bay v Carolina – Live
Wed 23 – 12am – Toronto v Pittsburgh – Live
Wed 23 – 3am – Calgary v Vancouver – Live
Thu 24 – 12am – NY Rangers v Philadelphia – Live
Thu 24- 3.30am – Phoenix v San Jose – Live
Fri 25 – 12.30am – Minnesota v Detroit – Live

The first two months are half price at €8.49

MrJoeSoap

COYW wrote: »

Got a reply from Setanta this morning confirming that they will be showing NHL games this season starting on the 19th. The schedule is as follows :

Date – Time – Match – Setanta Sports 1 Coverage
Jan 19 – 8pm – Pittsburgh v Philadelphia – Live
Jan 19 – 8pm – Chicago v Los Angeles – Shown Sunday 09.00
Jan 19 – 12am – Toronto v Montreal – Live
Jan 19 – 12am – Washington v Tampa Bay – Shown Sunday 11.00
Jan 19 – 2am – Colorado v Minnesota – Join in Progress
Jan 20 – 5.30pm – Philadelphia v Buffalo – Live
Jan 20 – 1am – Dallas v Minnestota – Live
Mon 21 – 6pm – Winnipeg v Boston – Airing at 22.00
Mon 21 – 2am – Anaheim v Calgary – Live
Tue 22 – 12am – Tampa Bay v Carolina – Live
Wed 23 – 12am – Toronto v Pittsburgh – Live
Wed 23 – 3am – Calgary v Vancouver – Live
Thu 24 – 12am – NY Rangers v Philadelphia – Live
Thu 24- 3.30am – Phoenix v San Jose – Live
Fri 25 – 12.30am – Minnesota v Detroit – Live

The first two months are half price at €8.49

Don't suppose they mentioned anything about a blackout?

brianomc

For those of you who subscribed to GCL last year and were wondering about renewing I emailed them about it and was told that I will be auto-renewed and the money will come off my card on Monday the 21st.

It suits me because I was going to renew anyway, but some of you might not want to.

Does anyone know how long blackedout games are usually blackedout for? I know it says up to 48 hours but is it really that long. It's not much fun watching a game until 3am and getting up for work at 6 so I would watch it when I get home instead. Will I be able to or will I have to wait 2 days?

Not impressed with the games being on SS1 instead of SS Ireland which comes free with upc but at least when there are evening games (irish time) there's usually a choice to watch. Had planned on Pit vs Phi on Saturday but I might have to check the schedule again now I guess.

Edit: It's great to actually be complaining about having too much hockey on tv

MrJoeSoap

brianomc wrote: »

For those of you who subscribed to GCL last year and were wondering about renewing I emailed them about it and was told that I will be auto-renewed and the money will come off my card on Monday the 21st.

It suits me because I was going to renew anyway, but some of you might not want to.

Does anyone know how long blackedout games are usually blackedout for? I know it says up to 48 hours but is it really that long. It's not much fun watching a game until 3am and getting up for work at 6 so I would watch it when I get home instead. Will I be able to or will I have to wait 2 days?

Not impressed with the games being on SS1 instead of SS Ireland which comes free with upc but at least when there are evening games (irish time) there's usually a choice to watch. Had planned on Pit vs Phi on Saturday but I might have to check the schedule again now I guess.

No experience with blacked-out games fortunately, as Irish subscribers to Gamecenter have never had that issue before. Fingers crossed it is the same this year.

COYW

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Don't suppose they mentioned anything about a blackout?

Nope, nothing. So i'm hoping that it is not going to be a issue for us here. They just confirmed that they will be showing NHL starting on Saturday and gave me the schedule, which gives me the understanding that the blackout is a non-issue. If the blackout was an issue, I would expect them to put in a note relating to it. The games are on their listings now too. I just checked Sky. They had no fixtures when I looked the other day.

Ping Chow Chi

There were no blackouts in the UK last year, I'm hoping that the same happens this year. If not, and if they have 48 hours delay as well, I think my CGL subscription becomes a waste of money

jack presley

Ping Chow Chi wrote: »

There were no blackouts in the UK last year, I'm hoping that the same happens this year. If not, and if they have 48 hours delay as well, I think my CGL subscription becomes a waste of money

There are definitely blackouts in the Uk next year. Here's a response from NHL to my query about blackouts for us. I asked about Ireland but seemed to get a standard UK/Ire response

"Thanks for your feedback. Any games appearing on Premier Sports will be blacked out live in NHL GameCenter LIVE. This includes up to 15 games per week. These games will be available for access 48 hours after the conclusion of the live game in the NHL GameCenter LIVE on-demand archive. "

jack presley

Good news folks. I wrote to them again and here's what I got this time

"Hello,

At this moment black out restrictions apply for Regular Season and Stanley Cup Playoffs + Finals for the following countries the United States, Canada and the UK.

In the United States games on NBC, NBC Sports and NHL Network will be blacked out

In Canada games on TSN, TSN2, CBC and NHL Network will be blacked out

Also in the United States and Canada, local market team blackouts apply on all games, you can find what teams you are blacked out for here http://www.nhl.com/ice/ziplookup.htm

In the UK games on Premier Sports will be blacked out. There are no local market team blackouts for the UK.

At this time no other countries have blackout restrictions. If you are still unsure of the blackout situation in your area, please let us know and we will be further assist you.

Thank You

NHL Support"

alanmcl12

jack presley wrote: »

Good news folks. I wrote to them again and here's what I got this time

"Hello,

At this moment black out restrictions apply for Regular Season and Stanley Cup Playoffs + Finals for the following countries the United States, Canada and the UK.

In the United States games on NBC, NBC Sports and NHL Network will be blacked out

In Canada games on TSN, TSN2, CBC and NHL Network will be blacked out

Also in the United States and Canada, local market team blackouts apply on all games, you can find what teams you are blacked out for here http://www.nhl.com/ice/ziplookup.htm

In the UK games on Premier Sports will be blacked out. There are no local market team blackouts for the UK.

At this time no other countries have blackout restrictions. If you are still unsure of the blackout situation in your area, please let us know and we will be further assist you.

Thank You

NHL Support"

Unfortunately Ireland is covered, I got this mail and said Premier sports isn't available here they replied:
"Greetings,

unfortunately your GameCenter LIVE will be blacked out in Ireland but we are still waiting for the confirmation on who will be owning the broadcasting rights in IRELAND.

Thank you for you patience."

MrJoeSoap

alanmcl12 wrote: »

Unfortunately Ireland is covered, I got this mail and said Premier sports isn't available here they replied:
"Greetings,

unfortunately your GameCenter LIVE will be blacked out in Ireland but we are still waiting for the confirmation on who will be owning the broadcasting rights in IRELAND.

Thank you for you patience."

I'll believe it when I see it.

cena

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm not going paying 40 euro or so if games well be blacked out

jack presley

alanmcl12 wrote: »

Unfortunately Ireland is covered, I got this mail and said Premier sports isn't available here they replied:
"Greetings,

unfortunately your GameCenter LIVE will be blacked out in Ireland but we are still waiting for the confirmation on who will be owning the broadcasting rights in IRELAND.

Thank you for you patience."

Ah bugger. Just as I had my hopes up.

jack presley

cena wrote: »

I'm not going paying 40 euro or so if games well be blacked out

Especially the playoffs and Stanley Cup. If it only till the next day fair enough as I won't be watching much games live anyway but 48 hours is too long

I could go ahead and buy it then when the playoffs come around and are blacked out I can look for a refund and re-send them the email they sent me

alanmcl12

Having blackouts this year is really disappointing,
Just downloaded the xbox app, and the quality is fantastic
would of really enjoyed using it this year

jack presley

Just remembered, I have a VPN thingy on my computer so can change my IP address to one in Spain or France or somewhere and get around the blackouts that way.

Gamecentre live is operated by the same crowd that do the MLB one and in that it just looks for your location and doesn't look at where your account or credit card are registered so hopefully this will be the same.

I've no money till the end of the month but ill probably sign up then

Ping Chow Chi

interesting!

peteeeed

Xbox 360 app is great news , roll on devils v islanders

jack presley

UPDATE

Just got another email from GCL.

"Hello,

The rights in Ireland are also held by Premier Sports which is the same company as Setanta Sports, you will be blacked out of the games that are on Setanta Sports. If you have any more questions please let us know.

Thank You

NHL Support"

cena

jack presley wrote: »

UPDATE

Just got another email from GCL.

"Hello,

The rights in Ireland are also held by Premier Sports which is the same company as Setanta Sports, you will be blacked out of the games that are on Setanta Sports. If you have any more questions please let us know.

Thank You

NHL Support"

Does this go for GCL online.