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We have noisy dogs apparently

  • 17-01-2012 6:15pm
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    So we have had our 4th complaint in a year from a neighbor about our dogs. They have complained that they are noisy in the mornings when they go out for a pee and in the evenings when they go out for a pee. It takes 10 minutes at the most for them to go out for a pee .
    First of all there is no constant barking. But we were told they growl too loud. When they get playful. We would actually like to let them out more so they can play but we cant. I will be completely honest, kids are louder then our dogs.

    They have already made one neighbor get rid of their dog. It was a yappy puppy. They called in and threatened calling the police. I have spoken to them over the phone and there is no going back with them. They just seem to have this in their head. Also my very first day i moved into the house they were knocking on the wall because we were too loud. We are walking on eggshells in our own house now.

    Anybody been in a situation like this ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    What breed of dogs are they?

    I cant see the gardai getting involved with an issue like this unless the dogs are a threat to the neighbour which they dont appear to be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    They have no grounds on which to make any complaint unless the noise is excessive and constant or repeated. Or unless it's out of hours.

    Your are entitled to make noise on your own property, particularly during the day, provided that it doesn't affect the quality of life of others.

    Take a video camera and record a "session" with your dogs out the back to demonstrate how noisy they are. Keep this recording as evidence that your dogs aren't too loud.

    They can complain to you all they like, just keep saying, "yeah, yeah, I'll sort it" and then go back to ignoring them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They are Springers. I must point out that there are 3 other family's with dogs that bark constantly hours on end. We even get annoyed by them as they go till 4 in the morning.
    I am nearly at the stage were i want to call the police.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭FoxyVixen


    Sounds like your neighbours have nothing better to be doing with their time than monitoring those who live close to them.

    Have they already approached the Gardai or just threatened it?
    If not why not make it known to the Gardai that you're getting hassled by your neighbours over nothing. Or inform the neighbour the next time they give out over nothing that you'll make an official complaint of their harassment.

    Otherwise you could have a camera on the dogs when they're out for the toilet so you've evidence that they're making very little noise, show what time this is at too should the Gardai get involved. Cover your own back.

    Don't get rid of the dog. Is the neighbour on their own? Perhaps they're just lonely and have little to be at but annoying you. Might be their only way of human interaction in the day?!

    Alternatively have a mad house party and show them exactly what noise is ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Our next door neighbour has a Jack Russell called "Jack". Jack is let out of the house into the back garden at about 8 AM and is let back in at 6 PM, 7 days a week. Between these two times he barks non-stop, and when I say non-stop I mean non-stop. Any visitors we get always say "whose dog is that?" or "do you have to listen to that all day?"

    If anyone comes to the door of their house or ours he bashes off the door to the back garden like a Rottweiler. The door, which is wooden, doesn't allow the unsuspecting visitor to see what sort of a dog it is so it scares the sh1t out of them. Quite fun to watch sometimes actually :D

    Due to other reasons we have not complained about him but would if we could as it is terrible listening to him.

    There is another dog on the other side of us and that gives no problems at all, and other dogs in the street.

    I love dogs but I would shoot Jack if I could get away with it. From what you say I would have no problem with your dogs at all, but then again our neighbours would swear blind that Jack never barks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Actually, thinking about it, it's possible that your neighbours think your dogs are the ones making the noise or that they're one of the groups of dogs constantly barking.

    This is why it's extra important that you take a video of them outside. Take two or three of them in fact. Stick them on a DVD so that if you get a visit from a warden or council person, you can just hand them a DVD.
    Give a copy of the DVD to your neighbour to show him exactly how much noise your dogs make.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,774 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    What a nuisance! I'd second the suggestions to set up a video camera and record the dogs over a few days.
    Also, depending on where you live, your local dog wardens may be worth contacting so you can pre-empt any further action. If you explain tot he wardens what's going on, and invite them around to your house to see for themselves, it just might help if yer man goes official with his complaint. But, I stress, I'd only do this if I knew the wardens for my area were reasonable people!
    The law is that if a person wants to make a complaint about noise, they must complain in writing to their local council. They are told that it is good practice for them to try to resolve the matter amicably with the neighbour causing the noise. The dog warden may call at this stage to see if you have a case to answer (hence the pre-empting I'm suggesting), and if you do, the case may go to court. For this reason, the suggestion to have video evidence at the ready is good, but I would also keep a written record of all conversations you have with yer man: contemporaneous notes make for good evidence in a court. Also, if it comes to it, some statements from other neighbours attesting to your dogs not being a nuisance can strengthen your case.
    Other than that, what a horrible person to have to live beside! Just mind out for your dogs' safety, that this person doesn't try to do your dogs harm (he sounds like a mentalist:(). I'm guessing your dogs are indoors while you're out, so should be reasonably safe? Without wanting to put the frighteners on you, it might be a good idea to attach a mailbag or covered mailbox to your letterbox so that nothing dodgy can be posted through the door while you're out.
    Good luck with this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    They are Springers. I must point out that there are 3 other family's with dogs that bark constantly hours on end. We even get annoyed by them as they go till 4 in the morning.
    I am nearly at the stage were i want to call the police.
    :eek: Thats A LOT of noisy dogs all in the one area. Maybe you're just getting the brunt of it because you're closest or something.

    I have to say, it sounds trivial but constant noise from neighbours can be absolutely head wrecking, even if its a dog. Actually a dog barking incessantly would drive even the most ardent animal lover nuts.

    I have something similar at the minute with my neighbours and their kids. I can hear soooo much through the walls its unreal. They NEVER STOP CRYING. I call them the "wailing twins". Now theres crying which i can tolerate ok, but they really are non stop. Its painful to listen to.
    seamus wrote: »
    They have no grounds on which to make any complaint unless the noise is excessive and constant or repeated. Or unless it's out of hours.
    Noise pollution can be brought to court as a valid case if theres sufficient evidence that its ongoing and distrupting peoples lives.

    wrote:
    They can complain to you all they like, just keep saying, "yeah, yeah, I'll sort it" and then go back to ignoring them.
    I actually wouldnt ignore them, ive seen first hand what can happen to animals if neighbours ignore other neighbours. Lets just say if food gets thrown over your wall it wont be as a treat. This may sound extreme but its not at all.

    Id be very polite with your neighbour, ask them that a reasonable level of noise has to be made and to record what they think is excessive (they will need valid proof anyway to make a complaint). It could just be a combo of all the dogs together annoying them. Try to reach some solution, even to the extent of figuring out why the sound proofing between houses is so bad.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just an update on this now that i am home, i got the full story. My dogs are noisy in the morning when i let them out for a pee . THey are noisy when i come home as i play with them and they are noisy at night time when they are having a pee.


    In the past they complained that they were noisy in the evenings at the same time as i let them out for a play whilst having my dinner. So i had to stop that.

    So basically what they are saying is , my dogs are noisy for 5 minutes in the morning, probably 20 minutes in the evening and 5 minutes at night.

    I am actually going to film them so you can see how noisy they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    As you have already received 4 complaints it is likely that they will continue so I would put a stop to it. I would write to the neighbour & make it absolutely clear that you do not consider that your dogs constitute a noise nuisance. You could say that you are referring the matter to the Council & Dog Warden - even if you are not.

    The point is to make it clear that you have nothing to hide & have done nothing wrong. You also need to make it clear that you will not accept further unwarranted complaints & that you are entitled to enjoy your home, garden & dogs without harassment.

    Obviously make sure that you have licenses for them. If you are frequently out then I would get a voice activated dictation recorder - Maplin had them for about €25. It is easy to leave it near the dogs & it will automatically switch on & record any noise. Just zero the tape counter & you can instantly see if the dogs have barked.

    Video evidence is good but at the end of the day it is up to the neighbour to prove that your dogs are a nuisance - you don't have to prove their innocence.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    anniehoo wrote: »
    :eek: Thats A LOT of noisy dogs all in the one area. Maybe you're just getting the brunt of it because you're closest or something.


    Yeah it is, we have even had thoughts about reporting some of them as the barking is going on till 4am. They are all out doors dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭boxerly


    I would tell them to get a life,if they knock on your wall knock back hahahaha.Honestly some people who are having problems in their lives want to lash out at everything and anything.Tell her her kids are too noisey hehehe.Try not to stress xxx


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just an update on this, i got another call to the door today with an ultimatum. He says that he works from home and now he cant get his work done because the dogs are barking so now he has to go to the boss and say "i am sorry i cannot do this" He is then going to loos his job and he will have to seek compensation.

    I told him that his job is not my problem and that i actually have a radio show, that i record from the same house. Its on Itunes check it out :)
    I mentioned about another neighbour and their dog which is constantly barking and he didnt want to know.
    I told him that we already cant let our own dogs stay in the back garden more then 10 minutes because of him again he said sort it out. They are loud in the house too.
    He mentioned that its against the law to have a dog left for 4 hours un-attended. The other half is actually a vet nurse and his home most of the time.

    He left it and is going to send in a complaint now. So i called the Garda and got advice from him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭ConTheCat


    Wow I feel sorry for you, don't be worrying about it. Its natural for dogs to bark and you can't seal his lips to stop it!! Some people have nothing better to do in their lives atal.
    I'm happy I have obliging neighnours, got a new puppy that liked to squeal at 4am for the first week, when they called at Christmas they were all enquiring about the new dog they'd heard!!
    Hope everything works out, and let the dog go wild afterwards ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,774 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    He mentioned that its against the law to have a dog left for 4 hours un-attended. The other half is actually a vet nurse and his home most of the time.

    This is categorically, utterly untrue. There is no such "time limit" in the legislation. I guess his OH must have been out sick the day they covered the dog control legislation in college. Sheesh.
    What did the Guard advise you do next?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Next time he calls over hand him a pair of ear muffs. God if he complains about ten minutes of dog activity in their own yard he must be very sensitive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Just an update on this, i got another call to the door today with an ultimatum. He says that he works from home and now he cant get his work done because the dogs are barking so now he has to go to the boss and say "i am sorry i cannot do this" He is then going to loos his job and he will have to seek compensation.

    I told him that his job is not my problem and that i actually have a radio show, that i record from the same house. Its on Itunes check it out :)
    I mentioned about another neighbour and their dog which is constantly barking and he didnt want to know.
    I told him that we already cant let our own dogs stay in the back garden more then 10 minutes because of him again he said sort it out. They are loud in the house too.
    He mentioned that its against the law to have a dog left for 4 hours un-attended. The other half is actually a vet nurse and his home most of the time.

    He left it and is going to send in a complaint now. So i called the Garda and got advice from him.

    So basically what they are saying is , my dogs are noisy for 5 minutes in the morning, probably 20 minutes in the evening and 5 minutes at night.

    How can that interfere with him doing his job???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    He mentioned that its against the law to have a dog left for 4 hours un-attended. The other half is actually a vet nurse and his home most of the time.

    But he isn't complaining about them barking when you are out :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭magentas


    Clearly, he has to much time on his hands.

    Excessive barking is unacceptable and I would complain about that myself but by the sounds of it, your dogs are just acting like normal dogs.
    Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like he's going to let this go so I'd say to try and stay one step ahead of him. YOU contact the gardai to make an informal complaint about harrassment from your neighbour. Just get them to make a note of it so that it's recorded if he ever goes to them about you.

    Also, jot down all the dates he called to you to make complaints and content of same.

    I know it's not ideal and it's not a nice situation and you obviously don't want to fall out with them but...he is being a bit of a douche!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    <snip>

    I'm woken every morning at 7am by yapping yorkies , it can continue much of the day ; with snarling, howling & dogs throwing themselves at the fence whenever any neighbour goes into the garden. Im pro dog but more & more have my days when I care less what happens to them. Take your neighbours complaints seriously as the consequences for your dogs can be fatal. Your dogs might only be annoying them for an hour in total a day but this is enough over time for them to demonstrate that is consistent & persistent noise which is detracting from their enjoyment of their property. That's all they need. They have complained 4 times : so now they can demonstrate patience & willingness to negotiate . Next stop district court ; like it or not. :(
    And that can go either way for your pets.
    If you accompany them out will this stop them barking?
    Might save their lives.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Assuming we're getting the full story-why won't he take on the neighbour with the *actual* noisy dogs?

    At the risk of controversy, I'd never have a dog that wasn't a "house" dog. I accept it may be different in a rural environment etc., but people who have a dog and leave it out the back to plough the garden and drive itself cracked, has pretty much the latter effect on me as well.

    From what you tell us, you're not one of those people, your immediate neighbour is, and Highly Strung High Flying About To Lose His Job Guy needs to take his issue up with that person.

    As above. Record everything. Take notes. It will stand to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Unfortunately, you can just get some people who are ridiculously over the top about noise from neighbouring properties. Really, they should consider moving out to the middle of no where as it's not possible to have an urban setting where things are 100% quiet all the time.

    Threatening legal action and threatening to sue you for compensation is definitely seriously over the top.

    If you are doing nothing wrong, then he is basically harassing you and making direct threats of groundless legal action.

    All I would say is to be careful. It's not that you have anything to worry about from the legal point of view, but rather that some of these neighbourly disputes can really turn quite nasty.

    A friend of mine has problems with a neighbour who constantly knocks on the door of his apartment complaining of noise. He has come down pounding on the door at 3am when my friend is asleep in bed complaining that people are 'walking around and closing doors'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Take your neighbours complaints seriously as the consequences for your dogs can be fatal. Your dogs might only be annoying them for an hour in total a day but this is enough over time for them to demonstrate that is consistent & persistent noise which is detracting from their enjoyment of their property.

    Simply not true. The dog owner has just as much right to enjoy their property. There is no situation where this could be "fatal" to the dogs. The only reason for ordering the death of a dog is if the animal is regarded as dangerous.

    The OP has stated that the complainant is only referring to a few minutes every day so the alleged nuisance is not persistent.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Was still mad to writing this. We started taking notes on the complaints and it seems every complaint is different. The other half is still upset over this. So i am going to push this further and invite who ever needs to come to check everything out.

    Here are the complaints

    They are bad in the morning for their morning pee.
    In the evening when i come in for work and have a play.
    In the night time when they have a pee.

    They are loud all the time

    They are loud since Christmas.

    They Growl too loud.

    Yet none of this is constant .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    You wouldn't believe what a pain in the ass some neighbours can be. Having grown up in the country and now living in cities for many years it's amazing what some people spend their days doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Also: Find out something (anything) that could potentially affect your enjoyment of your property if you were anally retentive like your neighbour. If there really is nothing (there must be) then, if you do get a solicitors letter, tell him quietly that if he persists with this unreasonable attitude, he will never get any cooperation on planning or any other matter EVER and you will be watching him from here on in for anything he does that annoys you in the slightest way - and if it does end up with your dogs being put down, you will carry through on it.

    Sooner or later there will be something where he needs your cooperation - he needs to know now that he will be told where to go.

    Sounds like it's really the other dogs that are annoying him but for whatever reason he's too chicken**** to do anything about those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭barbiegirl


    He is affecting your enjoyment of your property and your dogs. He is the nuisance and therefore I would report him. I would set up a video camera and tape a typical day for the dogs, so that you have supporting evidence that your dogs are not an issue.
    I would also the next time he comes around tell him that if he does not stop with his persistent harrassment which is leading to you not being able to enjoy your prorety as it is your right to do, then you will be sueing him for the stress and upset he is causing you and your wife. I would report him to the guards and let him know that you have done so. He is a bully and you can only deal with bullies by standing up to them.
    He is upsetting you and your wife now when you have dogs who God forbid occasionally bark. How will he handle it if you have kids, so that would be them on the trampoline, kicking football, babies crying in the night, kids shouting and playing as they do.
    I am sure the man is depressed and under pressure from other areas in his life and taking it out on you, but you cannot let him continue. Let him see you take him and his harrassment seriously, hopefully it will stop him in his tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Tell them if they really have a problem to go and take you to court and see how far they get then.
    They have to prove that YOUR dogs are causing the noise and present a valid case.
    If they arent going to do that then tell them where to go!!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We have been onto fingal and the garda again to see what we can do. Because we cant physically more . We are only left with the option of telling them to be quiet and thats not 100%

    But we will be filming a few times a week to cover ourselves. Also recording the other dogs in the area.

    Oh just reading back i wasnt too clear we actually have 4 dogs but its the springers he complains about.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭sparkle_23


    That must be very annoying. Some people complain about anything. I have a Springer myself and he barks in the morn for 5 mins tops when he's let out, and then later on at dinner time he barks for 5 mins also. Your dogs are probably the exact same as mine. If it was a baby crying would they be complaining and looking for compensation!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well we are going to start a youtube channel to help document everything. So we will see what happens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    My friend had neighbours like that who knocked in over every little noise even during the day about the TV the kids were watching set to a normal volume:rolleyes: they were bullies simple as.

    His Solution was to put his speakers facing the dividing wall with volume up real high and set a cd on repeat and went out for the day:D neighbour was banging on his door when they got home going mad and my mate told him it wouldnt happen again if he stopped giving out about everything. he hasnt had a knock since


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    To be honest i dont want to make it any worse. As i mentioned we have done all we can do in this situation by only letting the dogs out for a pee. The rest is up to him. As i mentioned we have spoken to the guards and they have taken a note of it. I am contemplating Harassment since he was looking for compensation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    I wouldn't let this guy bully you in your own home, the next time he knocks in I would just tell him not to bother you again with his complaints and you don't want him knocking on your door in future. I would hazard a guess that he has had that response from other neighbours and so has seen you as an easier option now, hence you getting the visits and him being reluctant to approach other neighbours.

    If you don't think the dogs are behaving in a way as to annoy neighbours, judging from your posts you seem a very reasonable person, so I would assume that they aren't and this guy is taking advantage of your nature.

    Deal with him the next time he knocks, explain that he shouldn't knock again, live your life and allow your dogs the freedom they deserve as long as you can reasonably assert that they aren't imposing on anyone else with their barking or general behaviour. Make videos of an average day if you think evidence is necessary, but certainly don't put yourself through the hassle of recording on a constant basis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Cedrus


    anniehoo wrote: »
    I actually wouldnt ignore them, ive seen first hand what can happen to animals if neighbours ignore other neighbours. Lets just say if food gets thrown over your wall it wont be as a treat. This may sound extreme but its not at all.
    Sadly I have to second that, I too had a springer and while he was usually very quiet, when he made noise he did it with all the passion his breed can muster. We had some very unsavoury tenants next door who objected to this, they shouted and threw stones at him, and one evening he staggered in from the back off his head and collapsed. After a week in the vets hospital we had to give him the final medication.
    Discodog wrote: »
    Simply not true. The dog owner has just as much right to enjoy their property. There is no situation where this could be "fatal" to the dogs. The only reason for ordering the death of a dog is if the animal is regarded as dangerous.

    No legal situation where this Has to be fatal to the dogs perhaps.
    However the illegal scenario is above and a legal scenario could in extremis involve an escalation of neighbourly hostility to the point where the negotiations lead to rehoming or destruction of the dogs "voluntarily". With negative equity etc. moving house is not an option for many people these days.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well here thisevening and how long they stay out the back for . We do this 4 to 5 times a day. During the summer we cant leave them out, just in case we get more knocks on the door. You can here dogs barking but they are not ours.

    http://youtu.be/z9pa7fbwlpQ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭belongtojazz


    Nothing wrong at all with your dogs... if only my lot were as quiet :o

    2 of our Terriers sound like they are being slaughtered when we let them out but thankfully my neighbours are not bothered at all.

    I could hear the dogs in the background and can only imagine that your neighbour has decided that noise is your gang.

    It is such a shame that such an ignorant, close minded person is ruining the dogs brilliant play area :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    I really feel for you, Dre. Has this guy nothing better to do? I think that video footage could stand to you in the future, so keep it up. :)

    Beautiful dogs by the way. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Cedrus wrote: »
    No legal situation where this Has to be fatal to the dogs perhaps.
    However the illegal scenario is above and a legal scenario could in extremis involve an escalation of neighbourly hostility to the point where the negotiations lead to rehoming or destruction of the dogs "voluntarily". With negative equity etc. moving house is not an option for many people these days.

    Oh I am sure that there are cases where people have been misinformed or bullied into unnecessary action.

    OP whilst you don't want to be confrontational it seems very unlikely that the neighbour is going to let this rest. So you may need to be the proactive one to avoid this escalating. I would write to the neighbour & state that you wish to be a good neighbour however you find his complaints to be totally unjustified & that you will regard any further complaint as harassment. Make it clear that you are the injured party. I would also mention that you have spoken to the Gardai & that they will be receiving a copy of the letter.

    I would send the letter by recorded delivery post as it will reinforce your position. You could even begin the letter with "I have been advised to write to you to confirm the situation regarding your allegations". This plus the recorded delivery will give the impression that you have taken legal advice. I would end the letter along the lines of "I regret that you have taken such as unreasonable stance on this matter & in the light of this, I will not entertain any further discussion.

    I wouldn't go overboard filming evidence. It is not up to you to prove your innocence.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    boomerang wrote: »
    I really feel for you, Dre. Has this guy nothing better to do? I think that video footage could stand to you in the future, so keep it up. :)

    Beautiful dogs by the way. :)


    Im ok, its the misses that is the worrier as they are her babys.She has not eaten since yesterday !! As i mentioned in the video they have been louder then that. Woody is a barker if he see's strangers, BelongstoJazz knows that :) Which actually makes him a good guard dog as he lets us know if somebody is on the back wall.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    I was going to say the same as belongtojazz, I could hear another dog in the background, much louder than your gang.

    Best of luck with all of this, any kind of conflict is horrible to have to deal with, whether you're in the right or not.

    I don't honestly know, but what is the situation with someone working from home, as your neighbour apparently is. Would insurance companies have to be notified? Local councils?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    ISDW wrote: »
    I don't honestly know, but what is the situation with someone working from home, as your neighbour apparently is. Would insurance companies have to be notified? Local councils?

    In these situations I would be very wary of trying to get one's own back. I would keep strictly to the matter in hand so that you can never be accused of trying to escalate the conflict. The neighbour is very clearly in the wrong & the OP doesn't need to sink to their level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭belongtojazz


    Im ok, its the misses that is the worrier as they are her babys.She has not eaten since yesterday !! As i mentioned in the video they have been louder then that. Woody is a barker if he see's strangers, BelongstoJazz knows that :) Which actually makes him a good guard dog as he lets us know if somebody is on the back wall.

    Tell her not to worry, this neighbour does not have a leg to stand on, but if Woody needs to go on hols my offer of a swap with any of mine still stands (well except for his playmate Jazz lol)

    On a more serious note if it starting to take it's toll like that on her health this has to stop, could you maybe call in to him when you are calm and the dogs aren't around and ask him to explain why a few minutes of dogs being dogs is upsetting him so much, also tell him the negative affect his complaining is having on yourother half.
    Your dogs are clearly not the problem here, he is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    On a more serious note if it starting to take it's toll like that on her health this has to stop, could you maybe call in to him when you are calm and the dogs aren't around and ask him to explain why a few minutes of dogs being dogs is upsetting him so much, also tell him the negative affect his complaining is having on yourother half.
    Your dogs are clearly not the problem here, he is!

    I think that I would avoid any more conversation because it's too easy for the neighbour to misrepresent it - unless it's recorded. He could easily accuse the OP of calling to cause trouble rather than as a peacemaker. The usual advice is to put everything in writing.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ISDW wrote: »
    I was going to say the same as belongtojazz, I could hear another dog in the background, much louder than your gang.

    That dog you hear is 1 of 2 which garden backs onto his. When his wife confronted the other half about it , she asked her about those dogs. She put up her hand and ignored the question. Saying Sort it out.

    Yesterday i asked him about those dogs and he refused to comment on it 3 times.

    This dogs bark and bark and bark. There is another dog which goes on until 3 - 4 in the morning. He just seems to be fixated on us. I also mentioned the fact that we live beside a motorway which is also loud.

    As i mentioned before he has had success getting the other neighbours to get rid of their dog. So maybe he thinks he can do the same with ourselves. I did tell him he was lucky to have us next door. My family are Garda. We also dont drink or have parties. Pretty boring really :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    ISDW wrote: »
    I don't honestly know, but what is the situation with someone working from home, as your neighbour apparently is. Would insurance companies have to be notified? Local councils?

    It depends on the work. If you're just sitting at your computer, making a few phone calls, answering emails, writing documents, then no, you don't have to inform anyone.

    If you're having clients in and out visiting the premises then you have to let your home insurance company know.

    OP, any chance you could ask the neighbour to share his videos/recordings of the dogs being noisy, as you've no idea what he's talking about and would like to see it from his perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    My family are Garda. We also dont drink or have parties. Pretty boring really :P

    Invite a few "family" in uniform to a play with the doggies garden party - that should do the trick !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Discodog wrote: »
    In these situations I would be very wary of trying to get one's own back. I would keep strictly to the matter in hand so that you can never be accused of trying to escalate the conflict. The neighbour is very clearly in the wrong & the OP doesn't need to sink to their level.

    I meant, if the neighbour is going to complain about the noise, say they are going to lose their job because of it and claim compensation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,053 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    So basically what they are saying is , my dogs are noisy for 5 minutes in the morning, probably 20 minutes in the evening and 5 minutes at night.

    How can that interfere with him doing his job???

    OP are you 100% sure they're not barking during the day when you're not there?

    I'd maybe go around to the neighbours of the barking dogs we can hear in the video for a chat and ask them if they've had any run-ins with your guy next door - it sounds like they have and they told him where to go?
    We had similar neighbours like this thinking they owned the road when they were making all the noise themselves and one by one everyone they complained to politely told them to gtfo over the years. They complained cos my dad was singing in the hall one evening at 9:30pm - their kids who were out playing on the road needed their sleep! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,922 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    ISDW wrote: »
    I meant, if the neighbour is going to complain about the noise, say they are going to lose their job because of it and claim compensation.

    Couldn't you lend the OP a few proper Hounds - then the neighbours would know what real barking is like :D

    I had a group howl with mine earlier ! My little guy does the most amazing howl - you could never believe that such a racket comes from such an innocent looking little dog. It would of scared the cr*p out of the OP's neighbours.


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