We have noisy dogs apparently

ISDW

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Twins actually do run the the family

Noses run in ours.

Sorry, the old ones are the best:D

Discodog

ISDW wrote: »

Sorry, the old ones are the best:D

I have never thought of you as old .....but if you insist

Do you join in with a group howl ? Some say that it is helps bonding. Mine love it.

Whilst living in the middle of the Countryside I had a complaint about my rooster so I made a soundproof box for him to sleep in. Then I got lots of complaints from neighbours who missed their morning wakeup call.

If I were the OP I would be so tempted to play a Wolf howl recording on a moonlit night.

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes woody is starting back tomorrow. Sor far thismorning we had about 6 barks in the space of an hour.

One advantage with the voice recorder is that it only records when it detects sound so you don't end up with hours of blank recording to go through. You could set the sensitivity so that it only records your dogs. Then it's easy to just playback the barks & measure the time or note the reading on the tape counter. With a mains adaptor you could leave it running 24/7.

mikom

Discodog wrote: »

Whilst living in the middle of the Countryside I had a complaint about my rooster so I made a soundproof box for him to sleep in.

So glad you said rooster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhwbxEfy7fg

kylith

Discodog wrote: »

One advantage with the voice recorder is that it only records when it detects sound so you don't end up with hours of blank recording to go through. You could set the sensitivity so that it only records your dogs. Then it's easy to just playback the barks & measure the time or note the reading on the tape counter. With a mains adaptor you could leave it running 24/7.

You'd get no record of the frequency of the barking then, which is why we left the webcam on all day. It feels reassuring to be able to say 'and these are the 23.75 hours a day when my dogs made no noise at all'.

So the other half called into the other neighbours today to find out if they dogs are causing problems. They said not at all. They mentioned that they have heard them barking at times but its so irregular that its definitely not a nuisance

Vince32

The guy is probably bored and wants something to do, next time he comes around invite him in for a cuppa and shoot the breeze, make the conversation about him and his life, he might come around, and it's better to have a fake friend than a real enemy.

JustAThought

OP
My friends dog grooming & walking business was shut down because of the Barking ; intermittent; over a period of months ; from one particular visiting dog. It cost them tens of thousands in court fees & they lost.

My neighbour up the estate was taken to court in similar circumstances to yours & he was ordered to have the dogs removed because of the continued & persistent noise & the disruption to neighbours. they ended up having their dogs vocal chords cut. Horror story. (surgically byVet ) nobody won in that one.

The reason the law exists & it us so easy to prosecute ( costs e10; no solicitor needed) is because of the huge upset this causes to people. I'd be taking them very seriously.

dudmis

My god, surely rehoming them would have been a better option than cutting their vocal chords!

sorry, OT I know but I can't get my head around that!

Bullseye1

I find it absolutely incredible that people are brought to court about barking dogs but you can have neighbours from hell and the authorities tell you they cannot help you. This country truly does have twisted laws.

JustAThought wrote: »

OP
My friends dog grooming & walking business was shut down because of the Barking ; intermittent; over a period of months ; from one particular visiting dog. It cost them tens of thousands in court fees & they lost.

My neighbour up the estate was taken to court in similar circumstances to yours & he was ordered to have the dogs removed because of the continued & persistent noise & the disruption to neighbours. they ended up having their dogs vocal chords cut. Horror story. (surgically byVet ) nobody won in that one.

The reason the law exists & it us so easy to prosecute ( costs e10; no solicitor needed) is because of the huge upset this causes to people. I'd be taking them very seriously.

Discodog

JustAThought wrote: »

OP
My friends dog grooming & walking business was shut down because of the Barking ; intermittent; over a period of months ; from one particular visiting dog. It cost them tens of thousands in court fees & they lost.

This is totally different if they were running a business from a residential property. It has nothing to do with a person enjoying their private home. If it was just one visiting dog then it would of been easy for the owner to stop the dog being at the premises.

JustAThought wrote: »

My neighbour up the estate was taken to court in similar circumstances to yours & he was ordered to have the dogs removed because of the continued & persistent noise & the disruption to neighbours. they ended up having their dogs vocal chords cut. Horror story. (surgically byVet ) nobody won in that one.

I find that incredibly hard to believe. The Vet would of been breaking an ethical code & could be in serious grief. The owner could arguably be prosecuted for cruelty. Why would anyone cut the vocal chords if the dog was only "visiting"

JustAThought wrote: »

The reason the law exists & it us so easy to prosecute ( costs e10; no solicitor needed) is because of the huge upset this causes to people. I'd be taking them very seriously.

It may be easy to prosecute but there is still a requirement for evidence & proof. In this case the neighbour appears to be more of a nuisance than the dog. The most likely Court outcome could come from the OP taking action for harassment.

Fortunately I suspect that the OP is intelligent enough not to be concerned by scare stories. In any event if the neighbour on one side claims the dogs are a nuisance & the other neighbour says that they are not, there isn't a case. Even if a Court finds that there is a nuisance they will give the defendant a period of time to remove the nuisance. The neighbour would then have to go back to Court & show that the nuisance still exists. There has to be a persistent element to this.

Zapperzy

JustAThought wrote: »

My neighbour up the estate was taken to court in similar circumstances to yours & he was ordered to have the dogs removed because of the continued & persistent noise & the disruption to neighbours. they ended up having their dogs vocal chords cut. Horror story. (surgically byVet ) nobody won in that one.

Was this in Ireland? I was under the impression that de-barking (common in america and barbaric in my opinion) was illegal in Ireland along with ear cropping. Definitely against VCI rules and I would imagine the vet in question would be in serious trouble if found out. I would rather move house or rehome the dog than do this.

magentas

TBH by the sounds of it, he won't let this go.
Yes, you could go around drinking tea in each others houses and make idle chit chat and pretend that all is good in the world. However, HE created this issue. You and your dogs have done nothing wrong.

Now your OHs health is suffering because of this busybody. I strongly suggest you inform him that his persistant complaining is unjustified and is now becoming a form of harrassment. He doesn't sound like a person you could have a level-headed "chat" with, so I think a letter would be best. That way, you can keep a copy of the content as it is illegal to record a conversation without both parties consent. If it doesn't stop, write another letter informing him that he leaves you with no choice but to take further action as he is making your lives intolerable.

Unlike your good self, he does not sound like a reasonable person and it looks like you're just going to have to play him at his own game. Remember, he initiated this conflict so anything that happens is a consequence of HIS actions. You (and your dogs!) just want an easy life:cool:

demanufactured

To the OP.

Take plenty of footage of your dogs and how normal/quiet they are.

Next time your neighbour comes knocking...invite him in to show him the footage......then politly escort him off your property and ask him nicely not to call again.



Ps.
What I really mean by this is tell him to shove his complaints up his hole.....but that might not go too well.

Discodog

demanufactured wrote: »

To the OP.

Take plenty of footage of your dogs and how normal/quiet they are.

Next time your neighbour comes knocking...invite him in to show him the footage......then politly escort him off your property and ask him nicely not to call again.

Or make a DVD & put it through his door.

Currently trying to keep the videos updated. We have also moved the dogs to the hall and landing. Will have to pay to have the alarm re-done now so the motion sensors dont set it off. We seem to have the support from the other neighbours and the garda and fingal. So we will see what happens. We have taken note of all the complaints.

The first complaint was actually made before i moved in. We were sale agreed. Board Gas switched on the gas again and it had to run through the pipes. I have a voicemail saying there is alot of noise coming from your house.

Bare in mind , nobody lived in the house for a year before i moved in.

ISDW

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Currently trying to keep the videos updated. We have also moved the dogs to the hall and landing. Will have to pay to have the alarm re-done now so the motion sensors dont set it off. We seem to have the support from the other neighbours and the garda and fingal. So we will see what happens. We have taken note of all the complaints.

The first complaint was actually made before i moved in. We were sale agreed. Board Gas switched on the gas again and it had to run through the pipes. I have a voicemail saying there is alot of noise coming from your house.

Bare in mind , nobody lived in the house for a year before i moved in.

Its great that you kept that, it shows how unreasonable the neighbour is. No matter if you're in the right though, this kind of tension isn't nice to have to live with, sorry you're going through it.

Bullseye1

You probably have enough data to take out an injunction against the guy at this stage as he is doing to you exactly what he is claiming is being done to him.

We still do have to live beside them. We have taken measures to move the dogs to the hall and landing. Its actually large enough and we are never really gone a long time to be away from them.

We are looking at modifying our extension to fit them all . So we will see what happens. We might go to a solicitor and let them know we are doing this to suit them.

ISDW

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We still do have to live beside them. We have taken measures to move the dogs to the hall and landing. Its actually large enough and we are never really gone a long time to be away from them.

We are looking at modifying our extension to fit them all . So we will see what happens. We might go to a solicitor and let them know we are doing this to suit them.

I would definitely check with a solicitor though before notifying them, as it may be seen as an admission by you that there is an issue.

ISDW

ISDW wrote: »

I would definitely check with a solicitor though before notifying them, as it may be seen as an admission by you that there is an issue.

Well the dogs do bark. I cant stop them. Its no way consistent or problematic as he says.

Just took this video, this is what the area is normaly like.

http://youtu.be/vM2s3sa96_Q

Took this 10 minutes ago. I asked my neighbout about these other dogs barking and he didnt want to know.

Vince32

you have to open the window to hear them?? I was expecting hell on earth... have you got footage of your dogs barking? as a comparison?

Vince32

Vince32 wrote: »

you have to open the window to hear them?? I was expecting hell on earth... have you got footage of your dogs barking? as a comparison?

I am using a phone , but you can hear them from the house also. Its pretty much constant. There are another 2 dogs which are closer and louder.
You can hear my dogs in the other videos . THey do bark for a few minutes.

barbiegirl

Dogs bark it's what they do. You are turning over backwards for someone who neither deserves it or will listen. He is the nuisance and as I said before I would be threatening g him with harassment complaints. Stop being so nice to him he doesn't deserve it. You and your dogs are doing nothing wrong.
If your dogs were in the back garden all day barking he would have a complaint. They're not doing that, you are a good owner and neighbour. The problem is his please stop being such a push over as he won't stop bullying you, you're wife and dogs until you tell him where to go. It can be done politely but I do think you need to do it. You are never going to have good relations with him so stop trying or next he'll complain about the hover, t.v. etc.

Just an update on this. I didnt get much sleep last night as a neighbours dog was barking all night. Which is ironic :rolleyes:

We have heard nothing since. In some ways we are great-full but in other ways we want to take this further because i feel its going to come to a head in one way or other. We have already been in touch with the solicitor.

Last night we did get a huge thump on our wall. So loud our parrot fell off its perch. All our dogs were asleep.

TooManyDogs

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Last night we did get a huge thump on our wall. So loud our parrot fell off its perch

I know it's not funny but this made me laugh I can just imagine the shocked look of indignation on the parrots face!

TooManyDogs

TooManyDogs wrote: »

I know it's not funny but this made me laugh I can just imagine the shocked look of indignation on the parrots face!

What is funny is, he said "dont be bold" before climbing back up to the perch

angry kitten

Its just a thought, but is there any chance you could find out if there was a serious noise problem in the house before you moved in? I'm just wondering if the guy maybe had nightmare neighbours living in the house before you and might be on the defensive as a result. I'm not trying to justify his actions by any means. Just curious if this is more about the history of the house than your dogs.

Solair

Seriously, just deal with him through a solicitor. These things can escalate and get totally out of hand sometimes and end in physical confrontation.

angry kitten

angry kitten wrote: »

Its just a thought, but is there any chance you could find out if there was a serious noise problem in the house before you moved in? I'm just wondering if the guy maybe had nightmare neighbours living in the house before you and might be on the defensive as a result. I'm not trying to justify his actions by any means. Just curious if this is more about the history of the house than your dogs.

The house was empty, it was then rented and then empty again. He did tell me that he didnt get on with the people that lived here.