Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12-Jan 2012 onwards

Leiva

You know what's really baffling me .
It's comments and opinions like the ones above that get made say when Rafa was still manager , when we were still I'm the CL and in with a shout at the title. You know what I mean , from the "fans" that are never happy .

But FFS with power of hindsight, what the club has gone through and our still not ideal situation , plus the fact we can now see how hard it is to get back into the CL mix , we still have supports who can't see the success , magic and achievments of Rafa Benitez .

The fella wasn't perfect , who is , but fcuk me I would give anything now for half of what he gave us during the hay days .

Crazy Horse 6

Anywho really looking forward to this weeks games things could really look a hell of a lot better this time next week.:) I know we are 1-0 up from the first leg but i still class us as 50/50 against the quality City have in their squad. That old cliche "the first goal is really important" never rang as true for this game. Have a funny feeling in my bones Kuyt is going to start and score.

El Inho

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7450855/Lucas-returns-to-Liverpool

well i got way too excited by that

manual_man

mixednuts wrote: »

You know what's really baffling me .
It's comments and opinions like the ones above that get made say when Rafa was still manager , when we were still I'm the CL and in with a shout at the title. You know what I mean , from the "fans" that are never happy .

But FFS with power of hindsight, what the club has gone through and our still not ideal situation , plus the fact we can now see how hard it is to get back into the CL mix , we still have supports who can't see the success , magic and achievments of Rafa Benitez .

The fella wasn't perfect , who is , but fcuk me I would give anything now for half of what he gave us during the hay days .

Have a bit of patience, and you'll see it in a few years time. Consistently

Anyway, that's my last said on the piece. Doesn't make an ounce of difference if you agree or disagree, that's not what defines a true fan, passion is.

So, who is it we're signing again?

seanwhite20

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Anywho really looking forward to this weeks games things could really look a hell of a lot better this time next week.:) I know we are 1-0 up from the first leg but i still class us as 50/50 against the quality City have in their squad. That old cliche "the first goal is really important" never rang as true for this game. Have a funny feeling in my bones Kuyt is going to start and score.

Im looking forward to it too!! I'll be in Anfield Wednesday night! Can't fookin wait :pac::pac:

stumpypeeps

amiable wrote: »

http://www.fcgroningen.nl/home/fcg-tv/

Go to 3 mins 10 seconds

What a finish. He looks like an out and out striker from what I've seen of him. Movement in the box is impressive.

manual_man

stumpypeeps wrote: »

amiable wrote: »

http://www.fcgroningen.nl/home/fcg-tv/

Go to 3 mins 10 seconds

What a finish. He looks like an out and out striker from what I've seen of him. Movement in the box is impressive.

Was a good finish. Looks very slow though (see when he's played through towards end of the video). Would have my worries he'd have trouble fitting in with the pace of the PL. I'm not being funny but i think Andy Carroll would beat him over 100m

amiable

stephen1martin Stephen Martin
#LFC negotiating over David Texeria. Possibility of cash plus player or cash and our player on loan.

hefferboi

manual_man wrote: »

Was a good finish. Looks very slow though (see when he's played through towards end of the video). Would have my worries he'd have trouble fitting in with the pace of the PL. I'm not being funny but i think Andy Carroll would beat him over 100m

You were being funny about rafa though?

amiable

stumpypeeps wrote: »

What a finish. He looks like an out and out striker from what I've seen of him. Movement in the box is impressive.

I like what I've seen so far. He looks a powerhouse and very good in the air.
He seems to place his shots too.

stick-dan

amiable wrote: »

stephen1martin Stephen Martin
#LFC negotiating over David Texeria. Possibility of cash plus player or cash and our player on loan.

yes yes yes!

manual_man

hefferboi wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

Was a good finish. Looks very slow though (see when he's played through towards end of the video). Would have my worries he'd have trouble fitting in with the pace of the PL. I'm not being funny but i think Andy Carroll would beat him over 100m

You were being funny about rafa though?

haha. stop it you



folks'll differ...

wcarey1975

manual_man wrote: »

The same one who brought in Igor Biscan, Djimi Traore, Josemi, blah blah blah

If you want to get into a debate about every single transfer, go ahead. I'm not a*sed. I simply stated he pushed Alonso out the door, which he did. It was disgraceful how Xabi was treated

Fact check please.

stumpypeeps

amiable wrote: »

I like what I've seen so far. He looks a powerhouse and very good in the air.
He seems to place his shots too.

The thing is, with the way Carroll is playing, most strikers would be an improvement.

Youtube can be very misleading, but what I have seen of him seems promising. Reminds me of Van Nistelrooy in his movement and approach in the box.

manual_man

wcarey1975 wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

The same one who brought in Igor Biscan, Djimi Traore, Josemi, blah blah blah

If you want to get into a debate about every single transfer, go ahead. I'm not a*sed. I simply stated he pushed Alonso out the door, which he did. It was disgraceful how Xabi was treated

Fact check please.

Oh dear. Watch the traffic. Please

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/graphics/flags/large/uy-lgflag.gif

YouTookMyName

manual_man wrote: »

Absolute nonsense. Rafa left the club in an absolute mess. Feel free to ignore that if you like. Oh and he pushed our best passer of the ball for the last 20 years out the door.

You'd do well to remember Rafa stole him from spain for just under 11million quid.

El Inho

probably bull but a 'quote' rounding the twittersphere from mr.hazard that he would rather join a club with a history of liverpool or arsenal....

extremely unlikely but tis nice to clutch at straws

amiable

eldwaro wrote: »

probably bull but a 'quote' rounding the twittersphere from mr.hazard that he would rather join a club with a history of liverpool or arsenal....

extremely unlikely but tis nice to clutch at straws

I think that's an old quote with a few bits added to it

Crazy Horse 6

eldwaro wrote: »

probably bull but a 'quote' rounding the twittersphere from mr.hazard that he would rather join a club with a history of liverpool or arsenal....

extremely unlikely but tis nice to clutch at straws

BS imo. He'll go for a club that's in the champions league. If we make it i would'nt be surprised if we made a bid.

seanwhite20

JenChang88 Jen Chang
Groningen-LFC negotiations over David Texeira are genuine. 3 different reliable sources incl. @plondinsky, @stephen1martin have reported it

YouTookMyName

manual_man wrote: »

wcarey1975 wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

The same one who brought in Igor Biscan, Djimi Traore, Josemi, blah blah blah

If you want to get into a debate about every single transfer, go ahead. I'm not a*sed. I simply stated he pushed Alonso out the door, which he did. It was disgraceful how Xabi was treated

Fact check please.

Oh dear. Watch the traffic. Please

Houllier bought biscan and traore. Rafa made them look like world beaters.

5starpool

Even though I don't know much about this lad, the fact that he is a bit different to a player who is performing well for a few months in a lower premier league club is good. It doesn't mean he will be a success of course, but that they are thinking slightly differently, which is a good thing. A couple more Uruguayan forwards would be nice as well *cough* Cavani *cough*.

whatawaster

5starpool wrote: »

Even though I don't know much about this lad, the fact that he is a bit different to a player who is performing well for a few months in a lower premier league club is good. It doesn't mean he will be a success of course, but that they are thinking slightly differently, which is a good thing. A couple more Uruguayan forwards would be nice as well *cough* Cavani *cough*.

Plus his career is following a remarkably similar path to Suarez' so far

Crazy Horse 6

whatawaster wrote: »

Plus his career is following a remarkably similar path to Suarez' so far

What he's been seen him at a klan meeting? :eek:
Shocking stuff.

amiable

JamieDalton82 Jamie Dalton
Liverpool linked with Udinese's Chilean player Mauricio Isla according to La Tercera. Fee of €15m mooted.

daithijjj

I see that Subotic lad Kess fancies as a player is being investigated on sexual assault charges. Cheeky bid? :pac:

manual_man

daithijjj wrote: »

I see that Subotic lad Kess fancies as a player is being investigated on sexual assault charges. Cheeky bid? :pac:

Throw in a spurious racism allegation and you've got yourself a deal

Rekop dog

amiable wrote: »

JamieDalton82 Jamie Dalton
Liverpool linked with Udinese's Chilean player Mauricio Isla according to La
Tercera. Fee of €15m mooted.

He'd be an excellent signing. Lots of experience for someone so young both at club level and internationally, can play wingback or in midfield, real bargain for under 20 million. Udinese are a selling club too so despite their possible CL place next season I could still see them letting him go.

Sir Gallagher

What was Texeiras record before he moved to Holland?

Does anybody.know much about that isla chap?

If he doesn't score in his first 10 games he's a failure.

Kess73

daithijjj wrote: »

I see that Subotic lad Kess fancies as a player is being investigated on sexual assault charges. Cheeky bid? :pac:

Glad you added "as a player" Hummels is the Dortmund player I raved about. Subotic I rate as a very good defender but nowhere near the level of Hummels.


Looks like a bit of a strange story.

The victim initially came out and blamed a number of people and said that Subotic was not involved. Then later it would appear she changed her story and added the player as one of the four people she is accusing.

It is turning into a big news story in Germany and is getting reported on in America as well given that Subotic played for the US under-20 team

missingtime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F7rSa2SJ28

mike65

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

What was Texeiras record before he moved to Holland?

He doesn't have one really, played for a Uruguay league side Defensor Sporting for two seasons playing 22 games and scoring 6 goals (so says wiki)

jesus_thats_gre

manual_man wrote: »

Well perhaps a bit ott... but the sentiment is understood. Some people will go on defending Rafa to the hilt, but i never enjoyed his time in charge. His using the club to put a European title on his c.v. at the expense of the league frankly disgusted me

If I knew you, I would actually punch you in the head.

I don't normally advocate violence but **** me, that is one of the most retarded posts I have ever witnessed in my life.

manual_man

rarnes1 wrote: »

If he doesn't score 20 timesin his first 10 games he's a failure.

Deffo

mike65

rarnes1 wrote: »

If he doesn't score in his first 10 minutes he's a failure.

:pac:

manual_man

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

Well perhaps a bit ott... but the sentiment is understood. Some people will go on defending Rafa to the hilt, but i never enjoyed his time in charge. His using the club to put a European title on his c.v. at the expense of the league frankly disgusted me

If I knew you, I would actually punch you in the head.

I don't normally advocate violence but **** me, that is one of the most retarded posts I have ever witnessed in my life.

You wouldn't be standind long enough to move your arm. Now go back to bed. It's past your bed time. And your post is reported, you aggressive little sh1t

Kess73

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

What was Texeiras record before he moved to Holland?

Does anybody.know much about that isla chap?

Few of us were talking about him on here earlier. Good player who is a bit of a utility man in that he can play in 5 or 6 positions. Good pace, good passer, good tackler, but miles behind some of his national teammates like Vidal and Medel in terms of being a central midfielder. But given how versatile he is, he may not be getting looked at as a CM but maybe as a right sided midfielder to replace Kuyt in the team.

jesus_thats_gre

manual_man wrote: »

You wouldn't be standind long enough to move your arm. Now go back to bed. It's past your bed time. And your post is reported, you aggressive little sh1t

Look, you made one of the most absurd posts that this forum has ever seen. Not only that, but you seriously disrespected someone that, while not perfect, did amazing things for our club and has done even more amazing things for people linked to the club since leaving.

The "punching you in the head" comment is not a threat, it isn't anything of the sort so don't get your knickers in a twist. Your post was ridiculous and it was an attempt, obviously in vain at that, to point out that you need some sense knocked into you.

K-9

vBulletin Total Ignore for Greasemonkey

and Greasemonkey for Firefox is a great thing.

Don't think you need Greasemonkey for Chrome, it accepts them by default.

ASOT

Kess73 wrote: »

Few of us were talking about him on here earlier. Good player who is a bit of a utility man in that he can play in 5 or 6 positions. Good pace, good passer, good tackler, but miles behind some of his national teammates like Vidal and Medel in terms of being a central midfielder. But given how versatile he is, he may not be getting looked at as a CM but maybe as a right sided midfielder to replace Kuyt in the team.

Im nearly positive hes a striker ? or i could be misunderstanding your post. My bad if i am.

Sasquatch76

Edit: Actually, screw it. K-9's suggestion is much better.

manual_man

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

manual_man wrote: »

You wouldn't be standind long enough to move your arm. Now go back to bed. It's past your bed time. And your post is reported, you aggressive little sh1t

Look, you made one of the most absurd posts that this forum has ever seen. Not only that, but you seriously disrespected someone that, while not perfect, did amazing things for our club and has done even more amazing things for people linked to the club since leaving.

The "punching you in the head" comment is not a threat, it isn't anything of the sort so don't get your knickers in a twist. Your post was ridiculous and it was an attempt, obviously in vain at that, to point out that you need some sense knocked into you.

I'm not the only pool fan that holds the opinion I do about Rafa's time in charge. And nor am I apologizing for doing so. Neither does it make me less of a fan, despite how some small minded folk would like to make it look. And I'm sick to the teeth of people throwing in things unrelated to what I've posted, total BS, what has what Rafa has done for people since leaving the club have ANYTHING to do with what I said. Typical non-sensical rubbish being spewed to try and suit whatever pathetic agenda you have. Seriously man, DON'T EVER REPLY TO A POST OF MINE AGAIN. Total and utter crap you have to put up with on this place

Kess73

ASOT wrote: »

Im nearly positive hes a striker ? or i could be misunderstanding your post. My bad if i am.

I was talking about Isla. The club are meant to be interested in him.

Sir Gal asked about two different players in his post, I was replying to his second question.:)

Chucky the tree

manual_man wrote: »

I'm not the only pool fan that holds the opinion I do about Rafa's time in charge. And nor am I apologizing for doing so. Neither does it make me less of a fan, despite how some small minded folk would like to make it look. And I'm sick to the teeth of people throwing in things unrelated to what I've posted, total BS, what has what Rafa has done for people since leaving the club have ANYTHING to do with what I said. Typical non-sensical rubbish being spewed to try and suit whatever pathetic agenda you have. Seriously man, DON'T EVER REPLY TO A POST OF MINE AGAIN. Total and utter crap you have to put up with on this place

Bit rich considering you can't even get basic facts about Rafa right.

seanwhite20

Calm down lads...

rossie1977

manual_man wrote: »

That's rubbish. A percentage used the off-field goings on as an excuse to stay in denial. Owners and off the field stuff? I'll give you owners and off the field stuff. The bloody Glaziers. Absolute unrest 'off the field' at United for what seemed like forever, and how did it affect them? Oh right, another few league titles, throw in another European Cup for good measure... Christ, i swear

have the glaziers gone behind fergusons back and looked for a new manager?? remember that was 5 months after liverpool had been in a european cup final and those two clowns were trying to replace him http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7187086.stm

have man utd come within a week or so of going out of business since the glaziers took charge?? maybe its just me but i haven't seen any headlines like this about man utd http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8025406/Liverpool-face-up-to-the-threat-of-administration-as-crisis-deepens-at-Anfield.html

how many first team regulars has ferguson sold since the glaziers took charge at man utd?? to the best of my knowledge just the one, ronaldo and they sold him because he wanted to go and they were rewarded handsomely

where was the new stadium hicks and gillette promised?? the glaziers were only in the door and they had a new expansion of 10,000 seats built at old trafford

you cannot under any circumstances compare the glaziers to hicks and gillette, the glaziers keep their head down and let their manager get on with the job, they don't fight like idiots, not talk to each other for years, have the clubs finances continually the focus of the media, undermine their manager and then sack him

jesus_thats_gre

seanwhite20 wrote: »

Calm down lads...

It is fair enough having different opinions. It is even fair enough being stupidly biased. Some of the vile being posted here recently though is downright disgraceful and it absolutely sickens me to the core.

argosy2006

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Liverpool-transfer-gossip-Talks-on-Esteban-Granero-Real-Madrid-midfielder-joining-on-loan-are-underway-article856911.html

Esteban Granero ?