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Sonnen V Bisping Jan 28th

  • 17-01-2012 11:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭


    Dana just tweeted, Munoz is injured, winner gets a title shot


    Night Night Michael

    Who'll win and how 100 votes

    Sonnen ko/tko win
    0%
    Bisping ko/tko win
    50%
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    Sonnen decision win
    4%
    Andy-PandyMisterCadburymannequinhandsJorah 4 votes
    Bisping decision win
    28%
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    Sonnen submission win
    5%
    Killme00Niall0p to the edickdasterlynino1 5 votes
    Bisping submission win
    13%
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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    Bisping ko/tko win
    I don't understand, why does Chael have to fight someone else before defending his title against Anderson Silva?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Bisping submission win
    Chael's not one to idly sit by and wait like some fighters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I don't understand, why does Chael have to fight someone else before defending his title against Anderson Silva?

    Anderson wont step up so Sonnen has to beat up everyone else and force him to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Bisping submission win
    I haven't been really excited for a UFC fight for a LONG time, but i think i just came.

    Sonnen is going to destroy bisping, and the build up is gonna be class


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Bisping ko/tko win
    This will be a bad beating, Sonnen will destroy him.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Really excited about this fight.

    Imagine the back and forth trash talk leading up to this fight!! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh


    Bisping decision win
    I was really looking forward to Munoz and Sonnen. They are very well matched.

    Bisping will have to seriously work on a takedown defence if he is to have any chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Bisping ko/tko win
    His take down defense aint bad, just nowhere near Sonnen level-and never will be..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    Bisping decision win
    this is a bad match up for bisping, his pillow hands wont keep sonnen away and his ground game isnt what would be needed to put sonnen in danger, hope he kills bisping and puts him in a casket-undertaker style


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Sonnen submission win
    Maia gets screwed :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Imagine how quiet it'd be in here if Bisping destroyed Sonnen :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Dean09 wrote: »
    Imagine how quiet it'd be in here if Bisping destroyed Sonnen :pac:

    Actually i think it would be loud rather than quite.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Bisping ko/tko win
    cowzerp wrote: »
    Actually i think it would be loud rather than quite.

    Probably full of posts sayin "What the fúck just happened??!!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh


    Bisping decision win
    cowzerp wrote: »
    His take down defense aint bad, just nowhere near Sonnen level-and never will be..

    Which is why I said he needs to work on it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭manga_10


    Any word who maia is getting ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Sonnen submission win
    I hope Bisping takes this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Bisping ko/tko win
    And it starts!!.........:D:D
    Bisping: "Chael Sonnen’s best weapon is his mouth, and that’s something that’s going to be absolutely useless in this fight..."

    "I see a very bright future for Chael Sonnen as a used car salesman very soon."


    Chael: "I am going to knock the teeth out of this snot nosed Brit who calls himself royalty, who calls himself a Count...."
    "I am MMA royalty and America will tune into the Chael Sonnen show next Saturday on FOX."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Bisping submission win
    manga_10 wrote: »
    Any word who maia is getting ?

    Mike Chiapetta mentioned Palhares, makes the most sense considering he won easily enough at the weekend.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭manga_10


    heelhook vs triangle :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Bisping submission win
    From the UFC's perspective, as long as Sonnen doesn't turn it into WWE, this fight will surely pick up a ton more attention than the original fight.

    Tough fight for Bisping though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Killme00 wrote: »
    I hope Bisping takes this.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭manga_10


    realistically sonnens gona bury bisping both in the trashtalk department and also skill wise


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    Bisping is the funniest fecker in the UFC, I would 100% watch a comedy show with him as the main character, it would be something like curb your enthusiasm on roids. This will be the funniest and most entertaining build up to any UFC fight ever!


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭Stephen_King


    Its a pity there's only ten days worth of smack talking to be had.
    Smart move by Bisping though, he'll probably get another crack soon enough if he loses for taking the fight at short notice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I haven't been really excited for a UFC fight for a LONG time, but i think i just came.

    I don't i'll sleep tonight I'm that excited :)
    thank you dana for this one


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Mike Chiapetta mentioned Palhares, makes the most sense considering he won easily enough at the weekend.

    Apparently it won't be Palhares because he has no passport and would like to take some rest given his busy year.

    I can really see Sonnen shining in this fight...was more interested in seeing him fight Munoz i have to say.

    Bisping is going to take an awful beating i reckon. I ****ing hate Sonnen as a person but the dude can scrap and doesn't relent for a second.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Bisping submission win
    From Dana on Twitter
    3rd fight in the FOX Jan 28th is Maia vs Undefeated Chris Weidman!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Bisping submission win
    Either way the title fight will be huge.

    When Sonnen wins they'll have it in a soccer stadium in Brazil and sell bucketloads, if, by some divine miracle Bisping wins then i reckon it'll be late summer in the UK, possibly even The Millenium Stadium in Cardiff, a sure fire 45,000 sell out, 80,000 if they decide to use the whole stadium


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Wonder how Gareth A Davies will spin how Bisping will win this one:D


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Bisping ko/tko win
    This is going to be great, I might finally have to sign up to twitter.

    Good chance for Weidmann here too to get a win over a top level opponent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭singlesnights


    If I was Bisping, I'd be working harder on my submissions than anything else.

    No matter how much he improves his wrestling, it still won't be enough to stop Sonnen taking him down.

    Bisping's BJJ is underrated and if Sonnen doesn't respect it and gets careless, there's always the possibility he'll get caught in yet another triangle.

    Horrible match-up for Bisping though. I'll go with Sonnen by UD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭mooeire


    Bisping ko/tko win
    If I was Bisping, I'd be working harder on my submissions than anything else.

    No matter how much he improves his wrestling, it still won't be enough to stop Sonnen taking him down.

    Bisping's BJJ is underrated and if Sonnen doesn't respect it and gets careless, there's always the possibility he'll get caught in yet another triangle.

    Horrible match-up for Bisping though. I'll go with Sonnen by UD.

    Im sure he was working very hard on his bjj seen as he was supposed to be fighting Maia, he was probably working more on submission defence though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    Bisping decision win
    its not good for bisbing, different style of fight and he only has 10 days to adjust, really excited for this, cant wait for it now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Sonnen submission win
    A really big chance for Weidman to take a step up the ladder. He's beaten some decent middle of the road competition. I think Bisping has some very good takedown defence but I also think he hasn't faced a wrestler of Sonnen's capability before. Hendo springs to mind and we remember how that finished.

    If the fight goes to the ground he may have a chance to utilise his underestimated jiujitsu game to catch Sonnen in a submission with which he has lost from the majority of times. Bisping may just have to take a beating first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭singlesnights


    In a way, it's a no lose situation for Bisping.

    If he somehow manages to get past Sonnen, he gets a title shot.

    If he loses, Dana can always say he only had 10 day's notice and still keep him in line for a title shot.

    While Silva-Sonnen II is the fight everyone wants to see, Bisping is a huge cash cow for the UFC. Silva vs Bisping in England would be huge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Sonnen by UD. If Jason Miller can take down Bisping and keep him there for a while, Sonnen will wrestle f*ck him for 3 rounds.

    Weidman v Maia is interesting. Training for Weidman wouldn't be much different than training for Bisping. Love Maia though, hope he wins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭nino1


    Sonnen submission win
    i think this fight is gonna be much closer than people think.
    bisping is a very underrated fighter, mainly because he is so disliked but i think also because people see that he doesn't have knock out power and think that makes him a bad fighter.
    bisping's striking is very technical and effective even if there is no ko power there.
    as for the wrestling aspect he beat hamill at 205 (questionable decision) and did very well against rashad evans at 205, which many people thought he should have got the decision.
    He is good at getting back up to his feet after being taken down so i think he is in with a much better shout than people think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    According to Dana, Palhares turned down the fight with Maia, because he is too "banged up"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Remeber Bisping has had a full training camp, be it against Miai but still he has had a full camp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    dave1982 wrote: »
    Remeber Bisping has had a full training camp, be it against Miai but still he has had a full camp

    And Sonnen hasnt? :/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭PauloConn


    Can't wait for this fight. The lads should be ripping shreds off each onther on twitter as we speak.
    Reckon Sonnen smothers him in this one, even with Bispings cardio. Would like to see him take Sonnen out but think he's so focused on the rematch with Silva he's going to take a Brian Stann through the count.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Saw the tweet about the change in opponents for Bisping and as a few have said on here I thought straight away that Bisping is gonna get f*cked on the ground... I hope not but Brian Stann, although limited was taken apart fairly quickly by Sonnen so I would think he's more than able to take Bisping and do the same..


  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭PauloConn


    Noffles wrote: »
    I hope not but Brian Stann, although limited was taken apart fairly quickly by Sonnen so I would think he's more than able to take Bisping and do the same..

    Yeah, if Bisping can really defend, keep it standing i think he has a chance but Sonnens wrestling is going to be very tough to defend.
    Not really too up on Bispings BJJ, I hope he has some, would be class if he did a Silva on it again and tapped him out in the 5th... (i'm assuming this is going to be a 5 rounder)


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Bisping is about to get frequent flier miles on Air Sonnen.


    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Bisping submission win
    PauloConn wrote: »
    (i'm assuming this is going to be a 5 rounder)

    I think it's only a 3 rounder this one as Evans v Davis is the main event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    PauloConn wrote: »
    Not really too up on Bispings BJJ, I hope he has some, would be class if he did a Silva on it again and tapped him out in the 5th... (i'm assuming this is going to be a 5 rounder)

    This is a 3 rounder. The main even it Evans vs Davis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Bisping ko/tko win
    And Sonnen hasnt? :/


    I didn't say he hasn't ?

    Pointing out the fact should Bisping lose he can't say he was prepared


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Sonnen has lost to a triangle Four times...by guys weaker than him....and three times to arm bars..... he's the perfect candidate for a a good submission artist...big wrestler who leaves his neck out and likes to control form the top which wuld suit a high level grappler with an active guard.
    from UFC.com
    "Accomplishments in amateur competition? 1995 Silver medal – world jiu-jitsu championships; 5 x British kickboxing champion; God knows how many times British Sport jiu-jitsu champion. "

    but he hasn't finished a submission in more than 6 years... Sonnen is going to...how can I put this.... murder the guy. Bisping isn't strong enough, tough enough, good enough, fit enough to even get 3-1 odds. If he tried to kick and tappy tap ITF punch punch and retreat..Sonnen will just man rape him like a bear eatin a small child. I like Bisping but jaysus all I can say is fair play to him for taking the fight....much respect... to get in there with Sonnen takes serious serious cajones...he's a man wrecker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Ian Whelan


    Bisping ko/tko win
    Sonnen has lost to a triangle Four times...by guys weaker than him....and three times to arm bars..... he's the perfect candidate for a a good submission artist...big wrestler who leaves his neck out and likes to control form the top which wuld suit a high level grappler with an active guard.
    from UFC.com
    "Accomplishments in amateur competition? 1995 Silver medal – world jiu-jitsu championships; 5 x British kickboxing champion; God knows how many times British Sport jiu-jitsu champion. "

    but he hasn't finished a submission in more than 6 years... Sonnen is going to...how can I put this.... murder the guy. Bisping isn't strong enough, tough enough, good enough, fit enough to even get 3-1 odds. If he tried to kick and tappy tap ITF punch punch and retreat..Sonnen will just man rape him like a bear eatin a small child. I like Bisping but jaysus all I can say is fair play to him for taking the fight....much respect... to get in there with Sonnen takes serious serious cajones...he's a man wrecker.

    Agreed. The bookies make Sonnen 2/7 for the win. Is it fair to say that in footballing terms this match up is like Bayern Munich v Wigan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Fightshop.com


    I see where most people are coming from but as we edit Bisping, we see what he is doing in his training and the camp he has around him - let alone the fact he has trained two camps, back to back!!

    I know Sonnen is a tough opponent if Mike can't defend the take-down but I know he's been training with some of the best and he will have this nailed.

    Sonnen normally outworks his opponents BUT Bisping's cardio is awesome and he could match him here.... Some say Bisping's biggest flaw is his chin BUT Sonnen is not a puncher SO - I would say they are pretty closely matched.

    My money is on Mike for an upset (oh and his Sandee training gear has given him special powers ha ha!)


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