AIB Graduate Aptitude Test?

Dembo88

Thats gas Orlaith, I doubt they'd call from a blocked number though? They'll probably be calling people from the number of the HR office I'd say, wouldn't fret if I were you ha

pinklilyrose

The tests do seem really hard... I feel really sorry for those of you who have 2 travel miles :-(... Any1 know if both grad programmes have to do the qfa exams??? I have done the interview but heard nothin yet... I didn't know there was 2 programmes.. Has any1 gotten a job spec for either programme??

Dembo88

I only applied for the branch banking role so I presume that is all about cashier and customer service, no idea about the other one pinklilyrose sorry! You've already done an interview? Wow not bad, was it only recently or before Christmas?

Look whos talking

pinklilyrose wrote: »

The tests do seem really hard... I feel really sorry for those of you who have 2 travel miles :-(... Any1 know if both grad programmes have to do the qfa exams??? I have done the interview but heard nothin yet... I didn't know there was 2 programmes.. Has any1 gotten a job spec for either programme??

Hi Pinklilrose , Heres the job spec i got ! Hope it helps !
GRADUATE OPPORTUNITIES - Fixed Term Contracts (23 months)

Locations: Nationwide

Retail Banking is of key strategic importance to the future of Banking in Ireland and
has a key role to play in supporting the recovery of the local and national economy,
in particular through its support and development of the SME market.

A major Retail Bank is now seeking Business/Finance Graduates to work as part of its
Retail Network.

The Key Responsibilities of all these positions will include:-

•

To maintain a strong relationship with existing clients through the provision
of superior service.

•

To develop strong financial analysis/credit assessment skills and the ability
to read and understand financial statements and management accounts, and
prepare and deliver a meaningful account review process to our customers.

•

To develop the ability to prepare an objective and balanced credit
proposition.

•

Play an active role in ensuring the business adheres to best in class standards
in credit and risk management.

•

Identifying and developing new business opportunities.

•

Liaising closely with colleagues throughout the Business.

Successful Candidates:-
We are looking for the successful candidates to take up these positions immediately
and they will ideally possess the following:

•

A high level of interpersonal and communication skills both written and oral

•

An ability to think laterally and act creatively

•

An ability to work on own initiative and interact as part of a highly motivated
team

•

An ability to work in a challenging, competitive and customer focused
environment.

•

A career-focused individual with the ambition to develop and progress within
Banking

•

Accountancy or Finance/Business Qualification (Minimum 2.1 degree)

All successful applicants will spend the first 3 months of their contract based in
Dublin. Following this they may be relocated nationwide.

pinklilyrose

Thanks a mill for that!!! Hope we are all successful getting jobs.... Best of luck everyone :-)

lols25

Hey Pinklilyrose,

Was the branch banking position you applied for was where the locations were nationwide and you had to chose top 3 locations?
So annoyed after getting the grain and silo test yesterday..I applied for the branch banking too..you think it would make sense that i'd have the same aptitude test as you!

I'm beginning to suspect a complete mix up was made on the recruitment agency side..giving incorrect times for different people!:(

deedeemaher

I was emailed a slightly different spec for the job


This is what I got:



Branch Banking Bank official OPPORTUNITIES Fixed Term Contracts (23 months)



Locations: Majority Based in Dublin (may be some positions in the surrounding areas) Salary Range; 23,883 to €30,331 depending on experience.

Branch Banking is of key strategic importance to the future of Banking in Ireland and has a key role to play in supporting the recovery of the local and national economy, in particular through its support and development of the SME market.

Due to significant attrition in the Branch Network, we are now seeking to recruit additional staff within branch banking to support the recovery of our business.

The Key Responsibilities of all these positions will include:

§ To maintain a strong relationship with existing clients through the provision of superior service.

§ Play an active role in ensuring the business adheres to best in class service to our customer base.

§ Identifying and developing new business opportunities.

§ Support colleagues and customers in the development of the business at branch level.



Successful Candidates:-

We are looking for the successful candidates to take up these positions from beginning of 2012 and they will ideally possess the following:

§ An ability to work in a challenging, competitive and customer focused environment.

§ A career-focused individual with the ambition to develop and progress within Banking § A high level of interpersonal and communication skills both written and oral § An ability to work on own initiative and interact as part of a highly motivated team § The minimum educational requirement for these positions is a Leaving Certificate with 400 points including a pass in English and Maths or 3rd Level Degree

§ Successful candidates will be expected to complete the QFA Loans and the QFA Regulation within a specified timeframe and this will be a condition of employment.

pinklilyrose

Deedeemaher I got the same job spec as you!! Lols I applied to an ad for "Dublin branch banking roles" as I live in Dublin... No other locations were mentioned and I didn't have to give top 3 locations..,. Wonder if there's actually much difference between the 2 job specs in the end???.... And Deedeemaher you are totally right we should have all got the same test... It's really unfair... As far as I was aware the grain test was always used for corporate markets programmes

lols25

pinklilyrose wrote: »

Deedeemaher I got the same job spec as you!! Lols I applied to an ad for "Dublin branch banking roles" as I live in Dublin... No other locations were mentioned and I didn't have to give top 3 locations..,. Wonder if there's actually much difference between the 2 job specs in the end???.... And Deedeemaher you are totally right we should have all got the same test... It's really unfair... As far as I was aware the grain test was always used for corporate markets programmes

Thanks pinklilyrose,maybe the dub jobs were filled before i applied last week so was given the other locations instead!..was never emailed a job description but was told over the phone it would involve cashier and back office work...disheartening to think a great opp could be gone on having wrong test.

Dembo88

Does anyone actually know how many positions are on offer within AIB? And has anyone got the dreaded phone call yet?

crazylamb

hey guys, i did the aptitude test(the morrisby-like one) before xmas, and i got teh job just there the other day, its for a branch banking role, i also thought it was fairly tricky and didnt get any of the tests finished but i got a good few done!
dont give up hope!

crazylamb

Orlaith88 wrote: »

Hi guys.. did any1 get a phone call today? I had a miss called from a blocked number this morning and this is the only thing i can think of that may be calling me on a blocked numb? They never rang back thou! prob took one look at my test and was lik WTF!!!! this one is thick stupid!! lol

id say theyll email you!

Dembo88

Thanks crazylamb, quality username by the way haha

deedeemaher

I was just talking to CPL and I asked why were there two different tests, She told me the tests had to do with the different locations and also some aspect of the degree the candidate held.

Im guessing that I didn't get the grain test because they knew I would have been able to do it having a background in accounting and finance and also that the branch i have applied for didn't require the test

deedeemaher

Dembo88 wrote: »

Does anyone actually know how many positions are on offer within AIB? And has anyone got the dreaded phone call yet?

I heard there are 50 jobs going nationwide but that most of them are based in Dublin.

phonkillaz

deedeemaher wrote: »

I was just talking to CPL and I asked why were there two different tests, She told me the tests had to do with the different locations and also some aspect of the degree the candidate held.

Im guessing that I didn't get the grain test because they knew I would have been able to do it having a background in accounting and finance and also that the branch i have applied for didn't require the test

I emailed cpl the other day and they said that they didn't know about two diff test, I've a accounting and finance degree but I done the grain silo test, not sure what cpl are taking about, plus I was not givin a chance even to select a location , got job spec, for 16 jobs. First 6 months in Dublin cork Galway and then returned to local region

deedeemaher

Im totally confused now because if CPL don't know whats going on there is no hope for us knowing lol

dee man

Has anyone found out yet that they hav passed the silo/grain aptitude and been given an interview. Got no phone call or email yet

Dembo88

I did the other aptitude test dee man and got no call or email yet either. Very strange, you'd think they'd be letting people know by now

Boscoirl

They said during the exam that it would be the end of the week when they would let people know if they were getting an interview, there is plenty time left in the week

dee man

Ya strange enough alrite likr. Typical banks too slow to do things. More than likely tmor idsay.
I emailed cpl there bout 30 mins ago and have heard nothing back fr them bout it.

How did that aptitude go for ya

Dembo88

Yeah true that Boscoirl, still a bit left to go haha To be honest dee man I felt that the numerical section was my best effort of the lot, and beforehand I thought it would be my weakest part. The general consensus amongst everyone afterwards was that it was pretty tough, so we'll see. Good luck with the grain/silo results I heard it was supposed to be shocking hard!

dee man

Dembo88 wrote: »

Yeah true that Boscoirl, still a bit left to go haha To be honest dee man I felt that the numerical section was my best effort of the lot, and beforehand I thought it would be my weakest part. The general consensus amongst everyone afterwards was that it was pretty tough, so we'll see. Good luck with the grain/silo results I heard it was supposed to be shocking hard!

ahh atleast numerical went well anyway. Thats what they would mainly ve looking at the most idsay.

Ya it was leatal alrite. Shur it was an experiance anyway. Im not that confident on passing it. Era have to wait and see.

Best of look with urs aswel

Amanda11

the girl from cpl was emailing me an said I would know hopefully by friday but to be on standby if i had to go dublin next tuesday! to be honest i have no idea how i got on in that exam lol i think i only finished one section rest had few questions unanswered! i travelled from cork and had to stay in hotel on mon night cause my test was at half 9 and wished cpl had told me there wud also be like hundreds more sittin it. The girl made it sound like u sit the test and u have a 1 in 2 chance of getting the job.. i highly doubt that with the number of people attended!!

So roll on tomorrow to see if we hear anything!

Dembo88

Which test did you sit Amanda11? Its all a bit up in the air really isn't it, I've not heard anything at all from them and I didn't apply through an agency or anything, I just forwarded a CV to the HR office in AIB when I heard there were positions going like. Roll on tomorrow is right, I haven't been able to get it out of my head since Tuesday!

Orlaith88

Yeah hopefully by tomorrow we will have heard something.... Hate all tis waiting ****!!! I heard that for anyone who sat the grain/silo test all positions were filled in cork (for any1 looking to do this in cork) and I would hav to put down Kerry as my second choice.... But they never said when/how to make this selection.....!

Dembo88

Ha Orlaith the irony of that, I'm Kerryman and I'd love to be offered the chance to work anywhere BUT Kerry! It would be my last choice! Nothing but depression and emigration around the county these days. We'll surely know by lunchtime tomorrow I presume, I don't see any reason why they would wait any longer to let people know? Good luck to ya by the way, I heard grain/silo was a tough test!

Amanda11

i sat the general abilities test... I found the end questions quite difficult alright like...glad i didnt have to do the grain silo one!! lol I didnt do finance in college at all, I studied politics so when saw it advertised on jobs.ie i sed i wud chance my arm of handing cv in!

The girl In the agency emailed me alright to see how i got on but havent heard anything else!

anyone hear where in cork the positions are for??

flyingpig

deedeemaher wrote: »

Im totally confused now because if CPL don't know whats going on there is no hope for us knowing lol

You're right to be confused deedee... I went through the exact same system as you. I passed the regular aptitude test before christmas (also, I didn't find out I passed until early January even though they said I'd know by the end of the week), and when I had another meeting with CPL after this I was told that there was 2 different positions available that I would be considered for in my interview. One was said to be "a more analytic role" and the other was basically cashier work. When I went for the interview with AIB it was clear that I was there for the position of a teller. From reading this thread its obvious that CPL didn't really know which candidates were going for which job. I wish I had been told what job I was going for because working as a cashier for 2 years does not appeal to me very much.

Amanda11

btw ... i didnt have to give choices of locations at all.. i just told her cork position is wat i was interested in that was it!! Its soo hard to get a job atm in cork unless u speak frickin german or have done IT in college ur screwed!!!

So fingers crossed with AIB lol

dee man

Amanda11 wrote: »

btw ... i didnt have to give choices of locations at all.. i just told her cork position is wat i was interested in that was it!! Its soo hard to get a job atm in cork unless u speak frickin german or have done IT in college ur screwed!!!

So fingers crossed with AIB lol

Just had an email from cpl telling me that they should know by tomorrow. As they should be getting the list to contact who passed.
Jez i hav to say the banks are making it fairly impossible for educated ppl to work for them.
Considering they hired ppl before with only leaving certs.
It doesnt make since does it.

dee man

Amanda11 wrote: »

btw ... i didnt have to give choices of locations at all.. i just told her cork position is wat i was interested in that was it!! Its soo hard to get a job atm in cork unless u speak frickin german or have done IT in college ur screwed!!!

So fingers crossed with AIB lol

Just had an email from cpl telling me that they should know by tomorrow. As they should be getting the list to contact who passed.
Jez i hav to say the banks are making it fairly impossible for educated ppl to work for them.
Considering they hired ppl before with only leaving certs.
It doesnt make since does it.

closifer

dee man wrote: »

Just had an email from cpl telling me that they should know by tomorrow. As they should be getting the list to contact who passed.
Jez i hav to say the banks are making it fairly impossible for educated ppl to work for them.
Considering they hired ppl before with only leaving certs.
It doesnt make since does it.

Crazy isnt it. I remeber when i was in 6th year, the bank coming in and touting for school leavers to forget about college and come work for them. They werev really trying to sell it to ppl - this was about 9 years ago...times have really changed

dee man

closifer wrote: »

dee man wrote: »

Just had an email from cpl telling me that they should know by tomorrow. As they should be getting the list to contact who passed.
Jez i hav to say the banks are making it fairly impossible for educated ppl to work for them.
Considering they hired ppl before with only leaving certs.
It doesnt make since does it.

Crazy isnt it. I remeber when i was in 6th year, the bank coming in and touting for school leavers to forget about college and come work for them. They werev really trying to sell it to ppl - this was about 9 years ago...times have really changed

Well personally thats why the banks have got them selfs into so much trouble. The banks shud be delighted that current graduates from various professions wanting to work for them.
What aptitude did u do?
How did u find it?

Niallers87

Hey guys i did the grain/silo test on monday at half three aswell, and like most posters here i was dumbfounded at it!!! i had problems even understanding the example qs!!! from speaking to the recruiter she said that as we were applying for the analyst positions, that if we were unsuccessful at that, that we maybe considered for the entry level positions which pay 2 grand less, so there is hope there yet, she also told me that as there was a shortage of applicants for the kerry region that it would be in my benefit to put it as my preference which i did!! but i cant see for instance if every one that went for a preffered area failed, and now one wanted to work in that region. how would they go about sorting that one out?

dee man

Niallers87 wrote: »

Hey guys i did the grain/silo test on monday at half three aswell, and like most posters here i was dumbfounded at it!!! i had problems even understanding the example qs!!! from speaking to the recruiter she said that as we were applying for the analyst positions, that if we were unsuccessful at that, that we maybe considered for the entry level positions which pay 2 grand less, so there is hope there yet, she also told me that as there was a shortage of applicants for the kerry region that it would be in my benefit to put it as my preference which i did!! but i cant see for instance if every one that went for a preffered area failed, and now one wanted to work in that region. how would they go about sorting that one out?

I know what u mean lad. It wad a.desaster. Ya i was told the same that if i didnt pass the silo one. Id be considered for the other one. But i was never given a choice of three. I was told just turn up for the aptitude in order to work for aib.

Niallers87

wel because i did a business degree and a masters degree in business, she thought i would be suitable to the analytical role, i didnt really mind to be honest, i was just happy just to get the phonecall for the interview!!! id take anyjob theyd give me at this stage!!!

dee man

Niallers87 wrote: »

wel because i did a business degree and a masters degree in business, she thought i would be suitable to the analytical role, i didnt really mind to be honest, i was just happy just to get the phonecall for the interview!!! id take anyjob theyd give me at this stage!!!

Ohh nialler did u get a.phone call today for an interview. So u passed the aptitude test so last monday.
Ya i know what u mean i would take any job in the bank at this stage aswel

lols25

Niallers87 wrote: »

Hey guys i did the grain/silo test on monday at half three aswell, and like most posters here i was dumbfounded at it!!! i had problems even understanding the example qs!!! from speaking to the recruiter she said that as we were applying for the analyst positions, that if we were unsuccessful at that, that we maybe considered for the entry level positions which pay 2 grand less, so there is hope there yet, she also told me that as there was a shortage of applicants for the kerry region that it would be in my benefit to put it as my preference which i did!! but i cant see for instance if every one that went for a preffered area failed, and now one wanted to work in that region. how would they go about sorting that one out?

Nialler was it the aib recruiters that told you people that didnt get past the grain test might be considered for the cashier jobs or was it the recruitment agency?would prefer the cashier role really.just baffled as to how i ende up havin the grain test after applying for branch role but unlike others didnt have the general aptitude.might give aib a ring tomorrow to query it if i get a bad phonecall from recruit agency?!:-O

dee man

lols25 wrote: »

Niallers87 wrote: »

Hey guys i did the grain/silo test on monday at half three aswell, and like most posters here i was dumbfounded at it!!! i had problems even understanding the example qs!!! from speaking to the recruiter she said that as we were applying for the analyst positions, that if we were unsuccessful at that, that we maybe considered for the entry level positions which pay 2 grand less, so there is hope there yet, she also told me that as there was a shortage of applicants for the kerry region that it would be in my benefit to put it as my preference which i did!! but i cant see for instance if every one that went for a preffered area failed, and now one wanted to work in that region. how would they go about sorting that one out?

Nialler was it the aib recruiters that told you people that didnt get past the grain test might be considered for the cashier jobs or was it the recruitment agency?would prefer the cashier role really.just baffled as to how i ende up havin the grain test after applying for branch role but unlike others didnt have the general aptitude.might give aib a ring tomorrow to query it if i get a bad phonecall from recruit agency?!:-O

Lols25 i was told the same and it was the recruiters that told me that today on the phone. Ya i would prefer the cashier job also.

Niallers87

i didnt get a call yet from aib, and to be honest i dont think i passed, it was the recruiters from cpl that informed me of that, i think lauren was her name, to be honest i didnt know until i was reading this thread that there was two different aptitude tests, i wouldnt mind either job to be honest!! how did u find it lols25?!!!

lols25

were the analyst jobs advertised seperately to the branch banking jobs? lots of the ads had different titles but had same job descriptions?!
Nialler oh god i don't think i came near to passing it..who evers correcting it will get a good laugh...the sample questions confused me for few mins and even trying to make sense of the actual questions was crazy!!:D..it seemed to me there was extra info given that you didnt need at all!!?...i knew alright there were two types of tests but never expected the grain test..haha i think i was recovering from the shock for the first 10 mins too!!:D howd you think you got on?

Deeman..least your recruiters were somebit clued in..will be putting it to my recruiter tomorrow was i actually put forward for analyst job instead!:( how did you find it all?!

dee man

lols25 wrote: »

were the analyst jobs advertised seperately to the branch banking jobs? lots of the ads had different titles but had same job descriptions?!
Nialler oh god i don't think i came near to passing it..who evers correcting it will get a good laugh...the sample questions confused me for few mins and even trying to make sense of the actual questions was crazy!!:D..it seemed to me there was extra info given that you didnt need at all!!?...i knew alright there were two types of tests but never expected the grain test..haha i think i was recovering from the shock for the first 10 mins too!!:D howd you think you got on?

Deeman..least your recruiters were somebit clued in..will be putting it to my recruiter tomorrow was i actually put forward for analyst job instead!:( how did you find it all?!

To be honest im not over confident or anything im usually good at exams or this type of stuff. But i found the stilo vishous like. Never done anything like that exam b4. Like even if we got sample questions i probaly would have been better prepated or at worst given it a better shot at like.

lols25

Haha vicious isn't even the word to describe it..would be interesting to see the actual solutions for them out of curiosity! normally good at exams too and been practicing aptitude tests a nice bit lately too...haha i think if i'd seen sample q's beforehand i'd prob have been scared but at least now afterwards i wouldn't feel as kinda hard done by with all the vagueness and confusion. i wonder is this the only time aib will be recruiting now for a lonng time?!..especially for cashier type jobs!

Niallers87

well from talking to my recruiter, she didnt seem like she had much of a clue wat was goin on!! i didnt even finish the thing to be honest i think i answered 20 questions or so, but the test is designed in such a way that wer not suppose to finish it, the examiner even said that at the start, i think even if we had sample questions we still prob woudnt have improved our chances, i thought alot of it wasd down to the wording of it aswell. i guess well find out tomorrow how it all goes!!!

dee man

lols25 wrote: »

Haha vicious isn't even the word to describe it..would be interesting to see the actual solutions for them out of curiosity! normally good at exams too and been practicing aptitude tests a nice bit lately too...haha i think if i'd seen sample q's beforehand i'd prob have been scared but at least now afterwards i wouldn't feel as kinda hard done by with all the vagueness and confusion. i wonder is this the only time aib will be recruiting now for a lonng time?!..especially for cashier type jobs!

Haha tbh im kindof been put off working for banks now. Jez they have done so far is total head **** me and havent even done the interview yet. What did u qualify in?
I qualified in property management fr england

lols25

dee man wrote: »

Haha tbh im kindof been put off working for banks now. Jez they have done so far is total head **** me and havent even done the interview yet. What did u qualify in?
I qualified in property management fr england

ha as long as they give me a job i don't care!:D but it kinda is an all over the place situation so far!! i did agribusiness mgmt..so not up there like the hardcore finance/business people but still gave it a shot as people have gone into the banking sector afterwards.

hopefully we'll all be the wiser tomorrow,and the happier too!!!

dee man

lols25 wrote: »

dee man wrote: »

Haha tbh im kindof been put off working for banks now. Jez they have done so far is total head **** me and havent even done the interview yet. What did u qualify in?
I qualified in property management fr england

ha as long as they give me a job i don't care!:D but it kinda is an all over the place situation so far!! i did agribusiness mgmt..so not up there like the hardcore finance/business people but still gave it a shot as people have gone into the banking sector afterwards.

hopefully we'll all be the wiser tomorrow,and the happier too!!!

Ya would love to just get a proper job rite now.

Well mines in property so im in the same both as u.

Best of luck anyway and shur we will know tmor is rite

dee man

lols25 wrote: »

dee man wrote: »

Haha tbh im kindof been put off working for banks now. Jez they have done so far is total head **** me and havent even done the interview yet. What did u qualify in?
I qualified in property management fr england

ha as long as they give me a job i don't care!:D but it kinda is an all over the place situation so far!! i did agribusiness mgmt..so not up there like the hardcore finance/business people but still gave it a shot as people have gone into the banking sector afterwards.

hopefully we'll all be the wiser tomorrow,and the happier too!!!

Ya would love to just get a proper job rite now.

Well mines in property so im in the same both as u.

Best of luck anyway and shur we will know tmor is rite

pinklilyrose

hope everyone gets the call tomorrow!!! has anyone any idea what the pay is like for the two positions... i saw a poster above said the cashier position is 2k less.... i saw the range is 22k - 30k ... i wouldnt object to a cashier job at all... a job is a job after all!! do you know if the cashier jobs have to do the qfa exams too?????