Should Ireland employ sex workers for those with severe disabilities?

Mr.Biscuits

Hopefully this won't turn into a 'legalise prostitution' debate, as there have been many and my question is really about a very specific area of prostitution and to do with very specific clients - the disabled.

I believe that sex workers should be available to people who are living with severe disabilities and to whom other avenues of having encounters with the opposite sex which might lead to sex, is just not an option for.

Here's a short clip to a wonderful documentary that dealt with the issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=das1SkOvUkc

So, do you feel that this country should have sex workers available to those suffering with severe* disabilites?

*Not just those woth nightblindness or something

Chuck Stone

But...

.... wouldn't....


... . . . prostitution ...


... . have to be. . . .


. .. legalised....


first?

Princess Peach

Mr.Biscuits wrote: »

I believe that sex workers should be available to people who are living with severe disabilities and to whom other avenues of having encounters with the opposite sex which might lead to sex, is just not an option for.

Sure the same could be said of ugly people!

LisaLee

I've heard of this being done before, but it would need to be regulated in some way.

baby and crumble

As someone who works in the field of disability, I can see this thread, in this location on boards going horribly, horribly wrong.

FWIW, yes, I do. But I also think prostitution should be legalised and regulated for everyone.

onedaysoon

Yes

policarp

Sure it's only a massage. . .

In a massage parlour. . .

Sindri

Do social and penile length disabilities count?

Red21

LisaLee wrote: »

I've heard of this being done before, but it would need to be regulated in some way.

Hell No, it's best put it up for tender and let the best pimp win the job.

onedaysoon

Does it apply if your on the scratcher..half price ride

onedaysoon

Does it apply if your on the dole..half price ride

LisaLee

Red21 wrote: »

Hell No, it's best put it up for tender and let the best pimp win the job.

Competitive marketing strategy, this will require pie charts.:D

policarp

onedaysoon wrote: »

Does it apply if your on the scratcher..half price ride

onedaysoon wrote: »

Does it apply if your on the dole..half price ride

Now you're being greedy. . .

charlemont

I'll go with Yes.

psicic

onedaysoon wrote: »

Does it apply if your on the scratcher..half price ride

onedaysoon wrote: »

Does it apply if your on the dole..half price ride

Really keen for that discount, huh?

Oranage2

A story here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303273/Councils-pay-disabled-visit-prostitutes-lap-dancing-clubs.html

strobe

Sure, why not. Everything for everybody.

LH Pathe

Makes a taker fr a keen giv'r I'll tell yer that ..

.. shaker .. taker .. malty milkshake maker...

Millicent

Why not? If there are sex workers who are comfortable with the role and disabled people who might never otherwise experience the joy of human contact and sex, I don't see the problem.

seanybiker

Why not. Then everyone be having more sexy time than that Birmingham fella on here.

Millicent

seanybiker wrote: »

Why not. Then everyone be having more sexy time than that Birmingham fella on here.

Poor Tom. One day your prince princess any port in a storm will come, Tom.

watna

I would have said no until I saw a Jim Jeffries stand-up where he talks about taking his disabled mate to a brothel in Melbourne (at his behest). Not only was it hilarious (I recommend you watch it) but it was actually quite touching as well.

They are still people with needs who are unlikely to get it from other sources, why not have people who are willing to do it with enough sensitivity and care?

EDIT: here are the youtube clips

I can't find part one but basically it's about a childhood friend of his who has muscular dystrophy and one of his last wishes is to have sex

watna

Oh, and that clip is NSFW, in case that needs to be mentioned. Lots of dicks and cocks in there!

Joe10000

Sex is great but if its with a prostitute then it's just for self gratification so my answer would have to be no.

Is self gratification a human right ?

biko

PM a mod for Disabilities forum OP?
After all, it's people with disabilities you should address.

Micky Dolenz

They already get the best parking spaces , places at sporting events and concerts and now you want their pro's paid for? Not a chance. They should pay themselves like everyone else.

DazMarz

My initial reaction was thus: "What the actual fúck?!?"

Then I realised the thread was half-serious... And I think that the country is in a sorry state enough than to be shelling out money to provide cheap thrills to anybody.

Maybe get some of the men/women on the dole to provide said services to the disabled, that way there's no extra money going out and the people on the dole get a bit of cheap entertainment on the side. Everybody wins!!!:rolleyes:

Skerries

Chuck Stone wrote: »

But...

.... wouldn't....


... . . . prostitution ...


... . have to be. . . .


. .. legalised....


first?

A stammer doesn't count as a severe disability

Stompbox

Chuck Stone wrote: »

But...

.... wouldn't....


... . . . prostitution ...


... . have to be. . . .


. .. legalised....


first?

It's already legal.

Sleepy

Can anyone else imagine the terms and conditions that would end up in a public-sex-worker's contract once SIPTU got involved?!

It'd be so lucrative you'd have girls queueing up to do it for 3 months in order to retire at 19.

Mr.Biscuits

biko wrote: »

PM a mod for Disabilities forum OP?
After all, it's people with disabilities you should address.

Interested to see what the general view is from people with and without severe disabilties thanks.

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

They should pay themselves like everyone else.

I never said that they shouldn't have to pay; I asked if that service should be made available to them.

I agree with those that have said they would like to see the service there for all members of the public, but feel it a more urgent need for those with certain disabilties and so feel that, first and foremost, the service should be in place for those with whom human contact, beyond the touch of a carer, is a rarity.

Dravokivich

Nope, if there's going to be a legitimate sex trade it'd have to be avail for everyone to make use of the services. Otherwise that's discrimination.

Stompbox wrote: »

It's already legal.

Moot point really, it's only "not illegal" as women involved in it are by defualt considered to be victims. The possiblity of self incrimination would make them hesitant about contacting Gardaí if there was a need to for any reason.

What is illegal is:
Solicitation
Keeping a Brothel (more then 1 escort / prostitute making use of a premises, there doesn't even need to be a pimp or madame involved)

If you can't advertise it or setup shop, there's not much worth to it being technically recognised as "legal."

ejmaztec

If sex-workers were employed in this capacity, the sale of wheelchairs would skyrocket across the country.

Mr.Biscuits

OSI wrote: »

Errr, the title quite clearly says "Should Ireland employ sex workers for those with severe disabilities?" Which would suggest you meant should the government pay for people to have sex with people that suffer from disabilities.

Eh, the Government employ many people to provide many services to the public and see very few that are free.

Littlehorny

Hmm, pay money for someone else to get the ride? ARE YOU SHI**ING ME?

smash

I could pretend to be disabled....

Dravokivich

smash wrote: »

I could pretend to be disabled....

Just not in the cock. That wouldn't work out very well.

Wattle

My sexual losing streak is so long that I'd consider mimicing these severe disabilities just to get my end away.

44leto

Isn't this the job of nurses???

Scanlas The 2nd

Joe10000 wrote: »

Sex is great but if its with a prostitute then it's just for self gratification so my answer would have to be no.

Is self gratification a human right ?

Self gratification??? You mean pleasure. No pleasure isn't a right, but I think we should live in a society where seek to make people's lives as enjoyable as is realistic and practical. The pleasure of sex for the disabled is something I'd be happy for my tax to be spent on.

D1stant

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

The pleasure of sex for the disabled is something I'd be happy for my tax to be spent on.

LOL

Thanks for that

I hope this topic gets onto Le Monde 'Irish accept all austerity measures, and introduce new disabled sex tax'

But what if people abuse it? What if there are disabled Latvians claiming for rides that never happened, or claiming for rides in another country??

/ Head melts

flanders1979

Arent there dildos and plastic fannies available in every town these days. If a partner had to wipe an ass, surely s/he could hold a fleshlight or other device for a few minutes while the other misfortunate drives and reverses himself into it.

Rabidlamb

I agree but only if the prostitute is disabled aswell.
2 wrongs could make a right

AngryBollix

Disabled people probably get more fanny than I do

44leto

A sick thread really. It reduces everyone from women to disabled people.

Millicent

44leto wrote: »

A sick thread really. It reduces everyone from women to disabled people.

What?

lividduck

44leto wrote: »

Isn't this the job of nurses???

yup, but that oul croke Park Agreement means they dont get their allowance for it anymore

gbee

And we should pay for it out of our taxes too, maybe a special needs payment form the SW or somesuch.

Seachmall

44leto wrote: »

It reduces everyone from women to disabled people.

Read that line again. I don't think it reads the way you expected it to.

AngryBollix

This has porn potential

dr.bollocko

lividduck wrote: »

yup, but that oul croke Park Agreement means they dont get their allowance for it anymore

How many pages back did you have to go reading after hours before you found a thread you could bump to make a joke about the croke park agreement?