No Beer At Brazil World Cup?

Ficheall

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16624823

Beer must be sold at all venues hosting matches in the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, football's world governing body, Fifa, has insisted.
Fifa General Secretary Jerome Valcke said the right to sell beer must be enshrined in a World Cup law the Brazilian Congress is considering.
Alcoholic drinks are currently banned at Brazilian stadiums and the country's health minister has urged Congress to maintain the ban in the new law.
Brewer Budweiser is a big Fifa sponsor.
Mr Valcke is visiting Brazil to press for progress on the much-delayed World Cup law.
Fifa has become frustrated, because voting on the legislation has been held up in Congress by the dispute over alcohol sales.
The Brazilian government has also failed to resolve differences with Fifa over cut-price tickets for students and senior citizens, and demands for sponsors of the World Cup to have their trademarks protected.
'Right to sell beer' In remarks to journalists in Rio de Janeiro, Mr Valcke sounded frustrated with Brazilian officials:
"Alcoholic drinks are part of the Fifa World Cup, so we're going to have them. Excuse me if I sound a bit arrogant but that's something we won't negotiate," he said.
"The fact that we have the right to sell beer has to be a part of the law."
Alcohol was banned at Brazilian football matches in 2003 in an attempt to tackle violence between rival football fans.
Health Minister Alexandre Padilha and other members of Congress have called for the ban to be maintained.
Mr Valcke said negotiations with Brazil over details of the World Cup had been slow.
"We lost a lot of time and we were not able to discuss with people in charge that are willing to make a decision," he said, adding that it was the first time a country was still in talks five years after winning the right to host the tournament.
During his visit to Brazil Mr Valcke has been touring the stadiums in 12 cities where the 2014 World Cup will be played.
He criticised the pace of construction and said Brazil had not yet improved its infrastructure to the level needed to welcome visitors.

TL;DR: Brazilian law has had a ban on alcohol in stadiums since 2003. FIFA is demanding this be changed for the World Cup.
Budweiser is a major sponsor of the World Cup.


Imo, FIFA doesn't really have any right to demand that Brazil change their legislation.
They may have to give back some of the money to Budweiser if it wasn't made clear to them that they couldn't sell their product at the games before any contracts were signed.
I can't see that the ban would be strictly enforced in any case.

Pherekydes

The 2014 WC will be moved. Selling beer is more important to FIFA than some silly games of soccer.

Logical Fallacy

I ****ing love FIFA.

It's hilarious to watch them endlessly trample on the laws of home countries and completely flout their judicial systems.

Top lads.

Teyla Emmagan

I thought they were still having it in Dubai..

Amount this issue impacts me = < 0.

44leto

FIFA why the fkuc do we have to put up with their corruption and blatant commercialisation and Sepp Poxy Blatter.

Notorious97

FIFA are a corrupt bunch of c*nts anyway, Im sure Brazil will back down if they threaten to move the WC, Im not sure they could though this late?

leeroybrown

Ficheall wrote: »

Imo, FIFA doesn't really have any right to demand that Brazil change their legislation.

You'll find that the first thing that FIFA does is force the host country to enact a large list of legislative changes to protect it's revenues, sponsors, trademarks. It even looks for quasi-police powers for it's private security staff. There's already been talk of a potential switch of venue from Brazil if they don't toe the line and push through the changes that have been requested.

Paparazzo

If Brazil don't change, fifa will get them in the end somehow. Everyone caves to fifa

AnonoBoy

FIFA insist that Budweiser and only Budweiser must be sold to people watching the World Cup matches.

What they haven't said is that they actually plan to implement this law worldwide and have it apply not just to people in the stadium but to everyone watching on television too.

No more Guinness for you boy. Put that tasty pint of Belgian beer down and drink up this piss-poor imitation of beer called Bud!

SEPT 23 1989

Budweiser is p1ss so im all for the banning

jester77

FIFA are knobs about this and Brazil will end up selling Budweiser at the games. The same happened in Germany in 2006, Budweiser doesn't adhere to the Rheinheitsgebot and the name Budweiser belongs to Budwar in Germany, yet this piss was still sold at the games using the brand Bud.

Plus I remember some Dutch fans having to change their clothes as they had beer logos on their shirts that were not Budweiser :rolleyes:

TeddyTedson

I really hope Brazil don't bow to pressure from Fifa on this.
I ****ing despise those incompetent idiotic "love the smell of there own ****e" **** that make up Fifa. Ruining football since 1904

player101

Notorious97 wrote: »

FIFA are a corrupt bunch of c*nts anyway, Im sure Brazil will back down if they threaten to move the WC, Im not sure they could though this late?

Im sure there will be loads of points which will counter this but i think Fifa probably could move it so late, countries like the Germany or even the UK with their stadium structure could effectively provide a venue for the WC (Probably not to the standard that they pitched for 2018 or 2022) although in saying that I cant see Blatter giving anything except AIDS to the UK he hates them!

but your right they defo wont move it, Brazil has come on leaps and bounds for its structure, it redesigned its whole power structure for it to ensure that there was no power failures!! Impressive stuff

Whatever about that, I cant wait until the 2022 world cup. If Israel qualify they will not be allowed to play in Qatar.

They would have a good chance of doing well too, what with their players being used to playing in 47 degree heat.

Underdraft

"Without beer I never realized how boring this game is."
- Homer Simpson

Shanotheslayer

Edz87 wrote: »

Whatever about that, I cant wait until the 2022 world cup. If Israel qualify they will not be allowed to play in Qatar.

Stupid question time. Why?

44leto

Its meant to be a festival of football for the world, for the people, so what give the right of a corporation to hijack a part of it.

I am not against corporate sponsorship, I am against any conditions they impose, its the world cup surely an audience of a billion should be enough for their tat.

And I agree Bud is piss.

Underdraft

44leto wrote: »

Its meant to be a festival of football for the world, for the people, so what give the right of a corporation to hijack a part of it.

I am not against corporate sponsorship, I am against any conditions they impose, its the world cup surely an audience of a billion should be enough for their tat.

And I agree Bud is piss.

I think FIFA finally confirmed their position by giving a world cup to a country (Qatar) that has no traditional interest in football, who doesn't have the large enough infrastructure or population base to hold a world cup and who will never have an established football presence afterwards. 2022 is going to be a disaster on many levels and will cheapen the international game to a point where people won't care about it any more.

FIFA're no longer about the sport or the people. It's all about bowing to the super wealthy and to vested interests at this point. I look forward to buying (but not drinking) my first Bud outside the Maracana in 2014.

Dempsey

Ficheall wrote: »

TL;DR: Brazilian law has had a ban on alcohol in stadiums since 2003. FIFA is demanding this be changed for the World Cup.
Budweiser is a major sponsor of the World Cup.


Imo, FIFA doesn't really have any right to demand that Brazil change their legislation.
They may have to give back some of the money to Budweiser if it wasn't made clear to them that they couldn't sell their product at the games before any contracts were signed.
I can't see that the ban would be strictly enforced in any case.

The are all about keeping the laws and traditions of host countries until it affects their sponsors. They are a greedy and corrupt organisation.

'Right to sell beer', you have to remind yourself that Jerome Valcke works for FIFA

amacachi

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I ****ing love FIFA.

It's hilarious to watch them endlessly trample on the laws of home countries and completely flout their judicial systems.

Top lads.

I'd be amazed if it wasn't made clear to the Brazilians at the time of the bidding that beer would have to be available. Up to them to hold up their end of the bargain now. England's ready if needed to host the 2014 WC anyway.

Benny_Cake

So.. FIFA want to be able to sell Budweiser at the World Cup but Brazilian law forbids the sale of beer at football matches. I'm not seeing the conflict here unless someone is arguing that Budweiser is beer,surely not?

flanders1979

You would get pissed quicker eating rotting fruit than budweiser.
Heineken isn't much better. Won't need the beer goggles over there either. The natives mite though.

ArmaniJeanss

Edz87 wrote: »

Whatever about that, I cant wait until the 2022 world cup. If Israel qualify they will not be allowed to play in Qatar.

Not true, of course they'll be allowed play.

FIFA insist on free movement of all players and coaches, no visa restrictions etc, or else much like the beer/brazil thing they reserve the right to move it elsewhere.

TPD

Benny_Cake wrote: »

So.. FIFA want to be able to sell Budweiser at the World Cup but Brazilian law forbids the sale of beer at football matches. I'm not seeing the conflict here unless someone is arguing that Budweiser is beer,surely not?

It'd be brilliant if that was the official line taken by the government. Like America's 'pizza is a vegetable' thing.

44leto

I would love to go to this, if you ever wanted to see the world cup Brazil would be the place to see it in. 20 euro a week for 2 years that is doable. Ireland may even qualify.

Immaculate Pasta

If beer is banned at Brazil there's no point Ireland even bothering trying to qualify to be honest... :cool:

AngryBollix

Wont this only become a concern if we qualify

dr.bollocko

How delightful that they take a stand on the important matter of selling beer but laugh off the completely trivial matter of homosexuality being illegal in Qatar.

ringadingding

How much is the sponsorship worth to FIFA ?

HalloweenJack

Brazil have invested so much money in this competition that I can see them backing down if FIFA threaten to move the WC.

Yeah, Brazil will have the Olympics in 2016 but that's only in Rio and they've spent so much money building and redeveloping stadiums and infrastructure all around the country for the WC that it means a lot more to them.

Turtyturd

ringadingding wrote: »

How much is the sponsorship worth to FIFA ?

Before anyone else says it....bout 3 fiddy.

Guy:Incognito

What bastards FIFA are. Completely reversing their way of doing business for the 2014 world cup and imposing all these new and unheard of demands on Brazil. Oh wait..............

Brazil chose to bid for the world cup, so they know they play by FIFA's rules. If they didnt rerad the small print thats their fault.

Hande hoche!

jester77 wrote: »

FIFA are knobs about this and Brazil will end up selling Budweiser at the games. The same happened in Germany in 2006, Budweiser doesn't adhere to the Rheinheitsgebot and the name Budweiser belongs to Budwar in Germany, yet this piss was still sold at the games using the brand Bud.

Plus I remember some Dutch fans having to change their clothes as they had beer logos on their shirts that were not Budweiser :rolleyes:

Isn't Budvar in the Czech Republic?

Nothingbetter2d

Notorious97 wrote: »

FIFA are a corrupt bunch of c*nts anyway, Im sure Brazil will back down if they threaten to move the WC, Im not sure they could though this late?

of course they could.... many countries could easily take the world cup at 2 years notice without much effort....... UK, France, Italy are some to name a few

RichieC

Their circus their rules.

c_man

jester77 wrote: »

Plus I remember some Dutch fans having to change their clothes as they had beer logos on their shirts that were not Budweiser :rolleyes:

The Bavaria girls PR stunt? Yeah, great fans they were.

c_man

dr.bollocko wrote: »

How delightful that they take a stand on the important matter of selling beer but laugh off the completely trivial matter of homosexuality being illegal in Qatar.

Wait wait wait. This is serious.




Will beer be available in Qatar?

spoofilyj

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Stupid question time. Why?

Because Quatar is an Islamic state and a such does not recognise Israel's right to exist and so does not recognise Israelie passports.

I worked in Abu-Dhabi for a while and before I went I had to get a new passport as I would not have been allowed in with an Israelie stamp on my old one...

Any country with nonsense laws should not be allowed host such sporting events but unfortunately FIFA are currupt to the core and are scumbags to boot...:mad:

chopser

This report makes no sense.
I was at a footbal match in Rio and they sold beer inside the stadium, outside the stadium and the hallways leading to your seats. everywhere.

Seems bit stupid to say that they don't.

UglyBolloxFace

FIFA are even worse hypocrites than our government.

Wasn't it awhile ago they mentioned that Governments cannot get involved in the affairs of FIFA, otherwise their football team would be suspended. But here we have FIFA getting involved with Governments and legislation.

Hypocritical bastards.

Shanotheslayer

spoofilyj wrote: »

Because Quatar is an Islamic state and a such does not recognise Israel's right to exist and so does not recognise Israelie passports.

I worked in Abu-Dhabi for a while and before I went I had to get a new passport as I would not have been allowed in with an Israelie stamp on my old one...

Any country with nonsense laws should not be allowed host such sporting events but unfortunately FIFA are currupt to the core and are scumbags to boot...:mad:

Cheers for the reply! Learn something new everyday!

UglyBolloxFace

jester77 wrote: »

FIFA are knobs about this and Brazil will end up selling Budweiser at the games. The same happened in Germany in 2006, Budweiser doesn't adhere to the Rheinheitsgebot and the name Budweiser belongs to Budwar in Germany, yet this piss was still sold at the games using the brand Bud.

Plus I remember some Dutch fans having to change their clothes as they had beer logos on their shirts that were not Budweiser :rolleyes:

Wrong - Czech Republic.

UglyBolloxFace

Edz87 wrote: »

Whatever about that, I cant wait until the 2022 world cup. If Israel qualify they will not be allowed to play in Qatar.

They would have a good chance of doing well too, what with their players being used to playing in 47 degree heat.

There won't be any bother; the Qatari government have already said they will allow Israel to play. However, they mention that they will name them as the "Israeli Soccer Confederation", thereby not recognising them as a country.

Seems fair.

Captain Graphite

c_man wrote: »

Wait wait wait. This is serious.




Will beer be available in Qatar?

Yeah it will; Qatar allow alcohol consumption under certain circumstances. But it won't matter, 'cause everyone will probably have to drink nothing but chilled water to avoid passing out from heatstroke.

jester77

jester77 wrote: »

...the name Budweiser belongs to Budwar in Germany...

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Isn't Budvar in the Czech Republic?

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Wrong - Czech Republic.

I never said it wasn't. I said that Budvar own the rights to the name Budweiser in Germany, not Anheuser Busch.

ArmaniJeanss

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

FIFA are even worse hypocrites than our government.

Wasn't it awhile ago they mentioned that Governments cannot get involved in the affairs of FIFA, otherwise their football team would be suspended. But here we have FIFA getting involved with Governments and legislation.

Hypocritical bastards.

Not quite. The rule is not that governments can't get involved with the affairs of FIFA, but that governments are not allowed to get involved with the affairs of their individual countries Football Associations, e.g., the Irish government couldn't decide to sack John Delaney or Trappatoni without repercussions from FIFA.

Nothing hyprocritical or unusual about FIFA and the Brazilian FA + government having these meetings, they are a standard feature of each World Cup. For South Africa at this stage they would generally have been about spectator and player safety and the slow pace of stadium building. The fact that they are already onto ticketing and sponsorship for the 2014 tournament is positive news.

Dempsey

Captain Graphite wrote: »

Yeah it will; Qatar allow alcohol consumption under certain circumstances. But it won't matter, 'cause everyone will probably have to drink nothing but chilled water to avoid passing out from heatstroke.

Drink will be readily available in the designated fan zones for each match. Each fanzone and stadium will have carbon neutral outdoor air conditioning. I wouldnt write off the Qatar World Cup, I actually believe it will be a complete success. The Russian World Cup will have far more problems imo

endabob1

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Not quite. The rule is not that governments can't get involved with the affairs of FIFA, but that governments are not allowed to get involved with the affairs of their individual countries Football Associations, e.g., the Irish government couldn't decide to sack John Delaney or Trappatoni without repercussions from FIFA.

Nothing hyprocritical or unusual about FIFA and the Brazilian FA + government having these meetings, they are a standard feature of each World Cup. For South Africa at this stage they would generally have been about spectator and player safety and the slow pace of stadium building. The fact that they are already onto ticketing and sponsorship for the 2014 tournament is positive news.

Eh the word you're looking for there is Scaremongering

It's the FIFA modus operandi, they pay for nothing and walk away with the profits. They basically forced South Africa to set up special coutrs during the world cup at a cost of millions, and then there were virtually no arrests because there had been an extra 100,000 police reserves trained especially for the event

Brazil will back down because FIFA will threaten them that they will take the World Cup somewhere else, they wouldn't bu the threat is normally enough. I do like that Brazil have refused to deal with Valke anymore, a weasel of a man if there ever was one