Resident Evil 6 revealed

johnny_ultimate · 21-01-2012 2:25pm

Know what the funny thing about Resident Evil is? That in many ways the gameplay is really quite ****. Collecting herbs, rigid movement, silly puzzles - inventive at the time, but now frustrating. Of course the atmosphere still remains unnerving, and are still largely playable, but they are games from a different era, and innovation is only to be embraced.

Resident Evil 4 gave it a kick up the arse and made the franchise relevant again while staying generally loyal to the lore. It is every bit a survival horror game. And let's not get into the 'jumping through windows' argument again :pac: It is a masterpiece of gaming, and one of the few that has been a genuine gamechanger in terms of influence. Indeed, RE1 had similar repercussions for the wider industry. Resident Evil, at its best, has been a torchbearer for innovation.

But like the countless survival horrors that followed RE1, there have been countless attempts to ape the third person shooting of RE4 (which, in many ways, has yet to be bettered by the many imitators). So they need another adrenaline injection to kick it back into life. This trailer suggests nothing of the sort.

krudler · 21-01-2012 3:52pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Know what the funny thing about Resident Evil is? That in many ways the gameplay is really quite ****. Collecting herbs, rigid movement, silly puzzles - inventive at the time, but now frustrating. Of course the atmosphere still remains unnerving, and are still largely playable, but they are games from a different era, and innovation is only to be embraced.

Resident Evil 4 gave it a kick up the arse and made the franchise relevant again while staying generally loyal to the lore. It is every bit a survival horror game. And let's not get into the 'jumping through windows' argument again :pac: It is a masterpiece of gaming, and one of the few that has been a genuine gamechanger in terms of influence. Indeed, RE1 had similar repercussions for the wider industry. Resident Evil, at its best, has been a torchbearer for innovation.

But like the countless survival horrors that followed RE1, there have been countless attempts to ape the third person shooting of RE4 (which, in many ways, has yet to be bettered by the many imitators). So they need another adrenaline injection to kick it back into life. This trailer suggests nothing of the sort.

and characters that turn like tanks :pac: rotate on your own axis before running from that dog!

Andy!! · 21-01-2012 4:19pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It was a change from a very genre that had become very stale at that point.

Dont be SILLY. While all three Resi games required rubies and Diamonds to open doors

they were all substantially different style wise from each other. And Silent Hill was a completely different ball game too. NOTHING stale about the genre at that time. I can understand their wishes to give the player a fresh experience, as they had done it with each of the previous iterations, but what we got was action shooter dross.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

As for the story and dialogue, you're playing resident evil not Silent Hill 2 of course it's going to be cheesey with crap dialogue, it's a resident evil game after all.

A cop out excuse. Big difference between delightfully cheesy and just plain ****e.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Not being able to move and shooting? I never understood why this was a problem with Resident Evil 4 since the game worked with this limitation.

Cant recall noticing it in 4 tbh, but in 5, maybe it was the cramped spaces and amount of enemies, it was just unplayable because of it.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

As for being too brown? I don't know what you are getting at because Resident Evil 4 is one of the few games with a wide variety of locations, unless of course you played the visually less impressive PS2 version, even then it's a good looking game.

Only ever played the GC version. Lots of locations alright, all brown, 2 of them inky blue night locations if I remember correctly.

Nothing about Resi had gone stale at the point, especially the enemies. Zombies are just timeless. Iconic. You dont see walking dead replacing Zombies with weird creatures that have bat-things explode out of their heads when shot... its just bad design and memorable only in bad terms.

johnny_ultimate · 21-01-2012 4:33pm

Andy!! wrote: »

Zombies are just timeless. Iconic.

Strongly disagree. Zombies are a great concept, but as has been wearily pointed out in many threads on this here forum recently, an increasingly ludicrous zombie oversaturation as set in in gaming (and society in general) these last few years.

Resident Evil was in fact strangely ahead of the game when it came to getting rid of zombies. Mikami and co. had great foresight to do something fresh, even before zombie hysteria set in. They kept the shambling grunts (zombies in all but name), but in not being restricted they were able to create new, creative enemies. The first time a head exploded in RE4 and that vein thing sprung out? Who didn't **** themselves and empty a whole magazine into it? Or the distant roar of a chainsaw...

Frankly, getting rid of zombies was the best thing Resident Evil ever did.

deathrider · 21-01-2012 5:09pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Strongly disagree. Zombies are a great concept, but as has been wearily pointed out in many threads on this here forum recently, an increasingly ludicrous zombie oversaturation as set in in gaming (and society in general) these last few years.

Resident Evil was in fact strangely ahead of the game when it came to getting rid of zombies. Mikami and co. had great foresight to do something fresh, even before zombie hysteria set in. They kept the shambling grunts (zombies in all but name), but in not being restricted they were able to create new, creative enemies. The first time a head exploded in RE4 and that vein thing sprung out? Who didn't **** themselves and empty a whole magazine into it? Or the distant roar of a chainsaw...

Frankly, getting rid of zombies was the best thing Resident Evil ever did.

Needs more dinosaurs...

ShadowHearth · 21-01-2012 5:09pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Strongly disagree. Zombies are a great concept, but as has been wearily pointed out in many threads on this here forum recently, an increasingly ludicrous zombie oversaturation as set in in gaming (and society in general) these last few years.

Resident Evil was in fact strangely ahead of the game when it came to getting rid of zombies. Mikami and co. had great foresight to do something fresh, even before zombie hysteria set in. They kept the shambling grunts (zombies in all but name), but in not being restricted they were able to create new, creative enemies. The first time a head exploded in RE4 and that vein thing sprung out? Who didn't **** themselves and empty a whole magazine into it? Or the distant roar of a chainsaw...

Frankly, getting rid of zombies was the best thing Resident Evil ever did.

very strongly disagree. there are good zombie games and there are bad zombie games.

zombies as "cultural" interest is on planet earth for decades. there were always books, movies, stories, games about them. in fact there is a boards.ie forum just for zombie survival.... that says alot.

there are plenty of snobish gamers who will say: "oh god, not zombies again, they are soooo over used".

to all those gamers i can say this: you dont like it, then dont play it. Zombies became genre in gaming, so people who like them, will play zombie games and enjoy them.

if someone likes fps shooters in sci-fi setting i dont feel a need to bitch and say " god dammit, one more sci-fi shooter! so many years they were making those ****y sci-fi shooters! sick of it! make something else! "

since i was a small boy i loved zombies. i loved them in my video games, and feck, if there will be one more GOOD zombie game i will go and play it.

if franchise were using zombies in theyr games and now decided to use something else, just because zombies are not the flavour of the month, then it is plain stupid.

ShadowHearth · 21-01-2012 5:19pm

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gt-pop-block-resident-evil/726024

gt trailers took it apart.

looks like all of the characters got a partner so no proper SP game, but ****y SP + DUMBARSE AI. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

johnny_ultimate · 21-01-2012 5:24pm

deathrider wrote: »

Needs more dinosaurs...

They've already done it: it's called Dino Crisis :pac: In space and everything!

ShadowHearth wrote: »

very strongly disagree. there are good zombie games and there are bad zombie games.

zombies as "cultural" interest is on planet earth for decades. there were always books, movies, stories, games about them. in fact there is a boards.ie forum just for zombie survival.... that says alot.

there are plenty of snobish gamers who will say: "oh god, not zombies again, they are soooo over used".

to all those gamers i can say this: you dont like it, then dont play it. Zombies became genre in gaming, so people who like them, will play zombie games and enjoy them.

if someone likes fps shooters in sci-fi setting i dont feel a need to bitch and say " god dammit, one more sci-fi shooter! so many years they were making those ****y sci-fi shooters! sick of it! make something else! "

since i was a small boy i loved zombies. i loved them in my video games, and feck, if there will be one more GOOD zombie game i will go and play it.

if franchise were using zombies in theyr games and now decided to use something else, just because zombies are not the flavour of the month, then it is plain stupid.

Again, calling people 'snobbish' and your general penchant for namecalling does no-one any good, Shadowhearth.

I'm not getting involved in this argument again, because frankly it's ridiculous. But zombification is an example of game developers reaching some sort of lazy consensus - where originality is ignored in favour of more zombies. Sure, there are good zombie games, and there are destined to be more good zombie games. But RE4 had narrative (remember that nuclear bomb?), gameplay and artistic justifications for moving away from the traditional walking undead. And to write those - IMO, and in a lot of people's opinions - under the stubborn reasoning that the enemies aren't called zombies (and the villagers basically are zombies) is to me bizarre. I don't play zombie games I have no interest in, and I'm always willing to give new ideas a chance. RE4 had a tonne of new ideas (no-one has yet to top Valve's take on them), and was therefore IMO a masterclass in game design and forward thinking.

deathrider · 21-01-2012 5:27pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

They've already done it: it's called Dino Crisis :pac: In space and everything!

Now there's a game that needs rebooting... Without the space though, lol.

ShadowHearth · 21-01-2012 5:50pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

They've already done it: it's called Dino Crisis :pac: In space and everything!

Again, calling people 'snobbish' and your general penchant for namecalling does no-one any good, Shadowhearth.

I'm not getting involved in this argument again, because frankly it's ridiculous. But zombification is an example of game developers reaching some sort of lazy consensus - where originality is ignored in favour of more zombies. Sure, there are good zombie games, and there are destined to be more good zombie games. But RE4 had narrative (remember that nuclear bomb?), gameplay and artistic justifications for moving away from the traditional walking undead. And to write those - IMO, and in a lot of people's opinions - under the stubborn reasoning that the enemies aren't called zombies (and the villagers basically are zombies) is to me bizarre. I don't play zombie games I have no interest in, and I'm always willing to give new ideas a chance. RE4 had a tonne of new ideas (no-one has yet to top Valve's take on them), and was therefore IMO a masterclass in game design and forward thinking.

snobish is being name calling now? i did not called you snob. and i did not addressed any member of boards.ie with insult. if i name call someone i will do it properly, so no need for that.

"general penchant for namecalling" cute... now this is personal at me, from you, i can play that game too. so lets leave it at that, okay?

In fact, my post had nothing to do with you, i was talking about "if its not popular this month, then lets find next popular thing". I dont give 2 ****s about RE4 as its old game at this stage, plus i did not even mentioned RE4 in my post, so why am i hearing about it from you again?

johnny_ultimate · 21-01-2012 6:18pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

snobish is being name calling now? i did not called you snob. and i did not addressed any member of boards.ie with insult. if i name call someone i will do it properly, so no need for that.

"general penchant for namecalling" cute... now this is personal at me, from you, i can play that game too. so lets leave it at that, okay?

In fact, my post had nothing to do with you, i was talking about "if its not popular this month, then lets find next popular thing". I dont give 2 ****s about RE4 as its old game at this stage, plus i did not even mentioned RE4 in my post, so why am i hearing about it from you again?

Just don't think it's fair labelling people who disagree snobs or fanboys, even it is a generalisation. Just think debate would be much friendlier and interesting without such judgements! I simply assumed that since your post quoted mine it was referencing the points being made.

But yes, equally happy to leave it at that. There are some arguments that will continue on for as long as the Internet as we know it exists, and the Resident Evil zombie controversy is one :pac:

tok9 · 21-01-2012 6:23pm

deathrider wrote: »

Now there's a game that needs rebooting... Without the space though, lol.

Played the second one on the ps2? Loved it when I was younger. Can't beat dinosaurs!

deathrider · 21-01-2012 6:51pm

tok9 wrote: »

Played the second one on the ps2? Loved it when I was younger. Can't beat dinosaurs!

Would have beem on PS1, as far as I can recall. Yeah, fantastic fun.

Jamie Starr · 21-01-2012 7:53pm

I was just thinking recentely how absolutely amazing Resident Evil 4 was, really at the time, on the GC with the pressure-sensitive buttons, it was so different to anything I had ever played before. It had so many things going for it, and it's strange now when I played RE5 or saw this new trailer, I thought "Hmm, this doesn't look much better" in a graphical sense and otherwise. RE4 really was a special experience at the time, I don't think you can replicate the impact it had with another RE game now.

Andy!! · 22-01-2012 10:25am

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Frankly, getting rid of zombies was the best thing Resident Evil ever did.

haha silliest sentence I've ever read on boards and I spend quite a lot of time in AH! :pac:

johnny_ultimate · 22-01-2012 1:16pm

Andy!! wrote: »

haha silliest sentence I've ever read on boards and I spend quite a lot of time in AH! :pac:

You've led a very sheltered forum life, my friend, if someone defending one of the most critically and gamer acclaimed games of all time is the silliest thing you've ever read

Andy!! · 22-01-2012 1:32pm

Wow what a way to twist it well done!

CORaven · 22-01-2012 4:07pm

"online co-op 2 - 6"
Doubtful, but I do not like the idea of it.

K.O.Kiki · 22-01-2012 6:03pm

I have no problem with online co-op as long as it's optional.

ShadowHearth · 22-01-2012 6:15pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I have no problem with online co-op as long as it's optional.

RE5 had co-op optional... in the end it turned out to be a must if you want even to complete a game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5P8JbJM-sI

Zero-Cool · 22-01-2012 8:21pm

I was watching the opening of Resi 2 lately. Leon running through a street in flames, getting to the gun shop, watching the owner get eaten and then taking his shotty. The zombies, the music, the grittyness, all these are what makes a Resi game. Now, fair play to Capcom for modernising the genre with Resi 4 but with every game they are swapping action for atmosphere. IMO Atmosphere is what made these games so good so hopefully they play the sh*t out of Resi 1-3 to remember that. I'm really not a big fan of all these melee combos. If you run out of ammo, you should be running, not doing spin kicks and flaming uppercuts.

Sorry if already posted but here's a link to gametrailers somewhat analysis of the trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gt-pop-block-resident-evil/726025

Just read this on GT, I really hope someone made this up for the laugh!

Capcom UK's head of marketing, Dave Turner said: Attracting CoD fans is 'the dream,' ... We've seen the popularity of Resident Evil increase massively as the series became more action oriented - Resident Evil 5 is the biggest seller in the series. So, it makes sense for us to follow this action area more fully."

Story_Bud · 23-01-2012 12:40am

Giving up completely on the series its such a shame that they dont care for the proper fans,i actual thought they would fix it with resident evil 6! I hope it doesn't sell well. RIP Resident Evil .. Memories will never be forgotten

deathrider · 23-01-2012 1:22am

Story_Bud wrote: »

Giving up completely on the series its such a shame that they dont care for the proper fans,i actual thought they would fix it with resident evil 6! I hope it doesn't sell well. RIP Resident Evil .. Memories will never be forgotten

More chance of the sun not rising tomorrow than there is of this not selling well.

Healium · 23-01-2012 1:52am

DAT cover. Can't unsee.

NSFW.

K.O.Kiki · 23-01-2012 3:32pm

No true Resident Evil fan.

Gandalph · 25-01-2012 2:03am

Just seen an add for this on tv....this is far too early no? Unless they plan to absolutely market the sh*t out of this one?!

Zero-Cool · 25-01-2012 10:01am

Gandalph wrote: »

Just seen an add for this on tv....this is far too early no? Unless they plan to absolutely market the sh*t out of this one?!

Surely it must have been for Resi Revelations for 3DS?

Fnz · 25-01-2012 10:22am

Nobody in this thread has pointed out that the logo resembles a giraffe receiving fellatio? Real mature, and all, but information wants to be free, so...

ShadowHearth · 25-01-2012 2:29pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

For the person who said they couldn't complete RE5 with the CPU AI as a partner... Try professional mode with a Co-Op player... It's far worse... This was from last night - It took nearly 1hr (3 different people) to finally find someone able to get past the first Chapter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJza1vMgT_A

As for the logo - Someone has already posted the joke - Yawn.

you get unlimited weapons on professional mode?!

its still does not prove that RE5 A.I. is even half decent, its ****. this video just proves that there are tons of idiots who dont have idea how to play and go to play professional game mode. that happens in any game.

i played re5 with A.I. and the only thing i wanted to do: stab the bi*ch myself then solo all game. i bough re5 on steam, downloaded it and did not even finished chapter one, because i got tired of her standing looking at me, while getting huge axe up her arse.

deathrider · 25-01-2012 5:27pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

For the person who said they couldn't complete RE5 with the CPU AI as a partner... Try professional mode with a Co-Op player... It's far worse... This was from last night - It took nearly 1hr (3 different people) to finally find someone able to get past the first Chapter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJza1vMgT_A

As for the logo - Someone has already posted the joke - Yawn.

If you're playing it with ramdomers, then that's your promblem right there. I never play co-op games with anyone other than friends. That way, I know how good/bad they are, and I know how much I can trust them when the action gets hot.

Resident Evil 6 revealed

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