Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

Alanstrainor

breghall wrote: »

In all fairness there is nothing he could have done, the car turned into him....

The car was completely wrong, but another car turns across the motorcyclist before the collision which he didn't seem to notice or react to. Once one car goes it's a major red flag for me when i cycle. The amount of numpties that will blindly follow the car in front is shocking. Car was definitely wrong, but the rider could have increased his chances of avoiding it by paying closer attention imo.

cormie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcqOmZvmlcI

The video starts as I meet this driver on the road, driving very slowly and with terrible road positioning. The bus driver had to roll down his window and tell her several times to reverse to the line and she should stop at the line.

After making the right turn, the Garda have the green light next and end up behind her. Bonus footage of a driver with no lights, driving the wrong way down a one way street next, but they follow the SUV driver and you can hear the eventual outcome.

Jesus.

Cormie is that a TDI you're driving?

b318isp

This boils my blood: Merc had to be flashed and beeped by the Ambulance when everyone else had moved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li_Iu5qtmhc

b318isp

7 seconds after the light goes amber, this guy sails through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X42Hf37jqAA

b318isp

Young girl driving pulls into what looks like her blind spot, Bora had to jam on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IoBH3nd43o

Bio Mech

b318isp wrote: »

This boils my blood: Merc had to be flashed and beeped by the Ambulance when everyone else had moved:

Bit harsh. He may have thought the ambulance was going to go up the hard shoulder (or is that an exit lane?).

Caliden

b318isp wrote: »

Young girl driving pulls into what looks like her blind spot, Bora had to jam on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IoBH3nd43o

...and she just kept moving into the lane where the noise from coming. No reaction from her at all.

Bio Mech wrote: »

Bit harsh. He may have thought the ambulance was going to go up the hard shoulder (or is that an exit lane?).

It's not exactly hard to use your mirrors to find out where the sound is coming from. Everyone else ahead of him was able figure it out well before he did.

Iwannahurl

cormie wrote: »

The video starts as I meet this driver on the road, driving very slowly and with terrible road positioning. The bus driver had to roll down his window and tell her several times to reverse to the line and she should stop at the line.

After making the right turn, the Garda have the green light next and end up behind her. Bonus footage of a driver with no lights, driving the wrong way down a one way street next, but they follow the SUV driver and you can hear the eventual outcome.

Super editing job.

cormie

Jesus. wrote: »

Cormie is that a TDI you're driving?

It's an Astra G van 1.7DT MK4 in that video

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Super editing job.

Still learning Should have put some kind of audio on the silent parts, I even still feel like checking is my volume up if I watch it again and would have liked to have put this with Navi appearing when it says listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6Zq9OJr0xM :pac:

Gosub

cormie wrote: »

It's an Astra G van 1.7DT MK4 in that video



Still learning Should have put some kind of audio on the silent parts, I even still feel like checking is my volume up if I watch it again and would have liked to have put this with Navi appearing when it says listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6Zq9OJr0xM :pac:

May I ask what you use to edit the video?

Apologies if this has been asked, and answered, previously.

RandomAccess

I'd like to know how you edited it as well.

Heres one from just minutes ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtoiKsEPtrE

Alanstrainor

RandomAccess wrote: »

I'd like to know how you edited it as well.

Heres one from just minutes ago.

Took me 3 watches to find the old lady(?) on the right after the bus. Shocking evening out there. Got home safe myself, without incident, but be careful out there folks.

Iwannahurl

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Took me 3 watches to find the old lady(?) on the right after the bus. Shocking evening out there. Got home safe myself, without incident, but be careful out there folks.

Not a little old lady. Unless she's wearing a hoodie and trackie bottoms, as well as sporting crutches.

Obviously a busy enough route for buses, and as always in such situations I wonder where the pedestrian crossings are.

cormie

To those asking, the video editing software is Sony Vegas. I just go to youtube and search for what I want to do and there's usually a video tutorial

RandomAccess

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Not a little old lady. Unless she's wearing a hoodie and trackie bottoms, as well as sporting crutches.

Obviously a busy enough route for buses, and as always in such situations I wonder where the pedestrian crossings are.

Clip was captured outside the Mater hospital on the North Circular Road.
The pedestrian crossing is at the point where I pass the bus, the lights are visible. I think theres another crossing just up the street.

I reckon she went across to the shop to buy some cigarettes.
She was stopped there in the middle of the road with her hood up and staring across the road with head tilted down a bit. She probably didn't see me until I drove past, which makes two of us.

You might notice in the clip that she is all but invisible when aligned with the phone box on the right side of the street as she is standing absolutely still and is similar colour to it so she blends into the background. Partly explains why I didn't see her until the moment she comes out of its shadow if you know what I mean.
I reckon it would be a good scenario for one of those thermal cameras that you can get fitted to the latest top of the range german cars.

The other thing I was watching was the car in front of the bus in case it would pull out.

Used to think this was a gimmick, but I think I'd like it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnHcJAlEDM

J Mysterio

Ah jesus christ. I can't see how that is ecen noteworthy. The whole of Ireland feckin saunter across busy roads at all hours and she was not near getting in front of you, obviously waiting for traffic to pass.

ardle1

So cyclist goes through junction as my light goes green, and then pulls out in front of me round the corner(with a 'slight' hand single)..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sliQUeFekFY

Look closely

RandomAccess

J Mysterio wrote: »

Ah jesus christ. I can't see how that is ecen noteworthy. The whole of Ireland feckin saunter across busy roads at all hours and she was not near getting in front of you, obviously waiting for traffic to pass.

She was a sitting duck.
Nice place to be waiting for traffic to pass on a wet dark night.

Jawgap

This morning - making a left turn from a minor to a fairly busy major road. The guy in the white van behind decides to try and 'undertake' on the left turn!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEhVhBBWgW0

Ken.

Jawgap wrote: »

This morning - making a left turn from a minor to a fairly busy major road. The guy in the white van behind decides to try and 'undertake' on the left turn!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEhVhBBWgW0

Wow, you left him nowhere to go. Fair play, he was a cheeky prick.

Jawgap

ken wrote: »

Wow, you left him nowhere to go. Fair play, he was a cheeky prick.

To be honest he left himself nowhere to go

The road runs out and there's no hard shoulder and I'd already started to accelerate out of the turn when I realised he was there. I thought it was a bit of a dumb move so I wasn't inclined to extend any courtesy to him.

Further on he tried to overtake on double white lines a move he had to abort because of traffic calming islands - he was obviously in a hurry to get to the back of the traffic ahead of us!

josip

Jawgap wrote: »

This morning - making a left turn from a minor to a fairly busy major road. The guy in the white van behind decides to try and 'undertake' on the left turn!

Do some people at that junction use the hard shoulder as a merging lane to make it easier to get out into the flow of traffic, even though there's a stop sign?

Jawgap

josip wrote: »

Do some people at that junction use the hard shoulder as a merging lane to make it easier to get out into the flow of traffic, even though there's a stop sign?

Here's the junction in daylight

Even if they do (and I have used the bit of road to merge)......and even if there was no 'stop' sign........undertaking a left turning car on a wet dark morning is silly at best and plain dangerous at worst. Plus, it's not like I stopped for the sake of it - as you can see there was traffic on the main road.

josip

Jawgap wrote: »

Here's the junction in daylight

Even if they do (and I have used the bit of road to merge)......and even if there was no 'stop' sign........undertaking a left turning car on a wet dark morning is silly at best and plain dangerous at worst. Plus, it's not like I stopped for the sake of it - as you can see there was traffic on the main road.

Agree completely with you, I strongly dislike the "my time is more important than your time" drivers. There seem to be more and more of them on the roads.
I was just wondering if that was the first time someone had tried that move there.

Jawgap

josip wrote: »

Agree completely with you, I strongly dislike the "my time is more important than your time" drivers. There seem to be more and more of them on the roads.
I was just wondering if that was the first time someone had tried that move there.

First time I've been undertaken there, but yes people do use the bit of road to filter into the traffic sometimes.

I think I know the van in question (didn't get a chance to clock the reg to confirm it) and it is someone I've seen do some pretty silly stuff in terms of overtaking.

Jesus.

Jawgap wrote: »

To be honest he left himself nowhere to go
The road runs out and there's no hard shoulder and I'd already started to accelerate out of the turn when I realised he was there. I thought it was a bit of a dumb move so I wasn't inclined to extend any courtesy to him.Further on he tried to overtake on double white lines a move he had to abort because of traffic calming islands - he was obviously in a hurry to get to the back of the traffic ahead of us!

That's the funny thing. These lads are darting past people, accelerating and braking hard, driving up people's backsides and a few hundred yards down the road they're backed up with everyone else. Pointless.

Caliden

Jesus. wrote: »

That's the funny thing. These lads are darting past people, accelerating and braking hard, driving up people's backsides and a few hundred yards down the road they're backed up with everyone else. Pointless.

Some people think they have discovered the 'secret' to beating traffic by undertaking, etc.

There is no secret, we're all in the same boat and you'll save yourself AT MOST 5 minutes if it's a good length journey. See it everyday with people undertaking in bus lanes only to meet them further up the road.

I get great enjoyment when they box themselves into a lane that's moving slow and lose the ground they fought so hard to make up.

hullaballoo

Sorry for the length of this video, need to get on the cormie train with the video editing software. You can see the cyclist nearly getting taken out of the game twice - firstly by the Merc then by the Mazda. The Mazda was behind me and seemed to get in a rage when I let the Ford out of the garage on the left, so he moved into the right turn only lane and carried straight through the junction. Got a fair old pelt of the horn for that. Near the end of the video at 4:30 or so, you see the same Mazda go through a red onto the N11. Seriously aggro driving from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxXXXNd6UU

Edit: also, apologies for the poor video and sound quality. I got my dash cam from a Chinese taxi driver for next to nothing.

cormie

You can do most basic functions pretty easily in Windows Movie Maker. It's free and pretty intuitive.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ie/windows-live/movie-maker

Just click off the rest of the stuff in the setup if you only want movie maker.

huggs2

This guy was lucky this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFDGBa6p8W0

MarkAnthony

Bloody lucky WVM was on his phone and not looking at the lights.

Gosub

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Bloody luck WVM was on his phone and not looking at the lights.

That's a bit harsh. Looks like he was waiting for the pedestrians to finish strolling across the road.

MarkAnthony

Gosub wrote: »

That's a bit harsh. Looks like he was waiting for the pedestrians to finish strolling across the road.

Nah, not a chance - he's have inched forward if he'd seen the lights change. Either that or it was a WVW.

TwoShedsJackson

huggs2 wrote: »

This guy was lucky this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFDGBa6p8W0

It should be legal to run over cyclists who do that.

MarkAnthony

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

It should be legal to run over cyclists who do that.

FYP :pac: On a serious note it's about time the guards started doing something about idiot cyclists. I was on my way home at rush hour last night along Baggot Street and people were just being complete dicks. I was very surprised how patient drivers were being.

That and people that cross on the quays against the traffic turning in from the left and hold everything up.

RainyDay

MarkAnthony wrote: »

FYP :pac: On a serious note it's about time the guards started doing something about idiot cyclists. I was on my way home at rush hour last night along Baggot Street and people were just being complete dicks. I was very surprised how patient drivers were being.

That and people that cross on the quays against the traffic turning in from the left and hold everything up.

I cycle most of the time, and I get very frustrated when I see cyclists doing this crap too.

But remember, every Garda hour spent chasing cyclists is an hour not spent reducing the 200+ deaths and thousands of injuries caused by motorists on the road each year. Be careful what you wish for.

CiniO

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

It should be legal to run over cyclists who do that.

Well, in many countries in EU it is.

Tragedy

RainyDay wrote: »

But remember, every Garda hour spent chasing cyclists is an hour not spent reducing the 200+ deaths and thousands of injuries caused by motorists on the road each year. Be careful what you wish for.

There is no evidence that Garda 'enforcement' has any positive effect on road injuries/deaths.

I'd much rather speed vans (as that's all Garda enforcement ever amounted to) at known accident black spots and Gardaí get back to actual policing.

CiniO

Jawgap wrote: »

Here's the junction in daylight

Even if they do (and I have used the bit of road to merge)......and even if there was no 'stop' sign........undertaking a left turning car on a wet dark morning is silly at best and plain dangerous at worst. Plus, it's not like I stopped for the sake of it - as you can see there was traffic on the main road.

Looks like fairly badly designed junction.
You are obliged to keep left when intending to turn left, so in theory there shouldn't be any space for van to undertake you.
But unfortunately to keep left there on this junction, you would need to be at big angle towards main road which would limit your visibility - so that's why it's no good.

BTW - are you sure you had you indicator on?

MarkAnthony

RainyDay wrote: »

I cycle most of the time, and I get very frustrated when I see cyclists doing this crap too.

But remember, every Garda hour spent chasing cyclists is an hour not spent reducing the 200+ deaths and thousands of injuries caused by motorists on the road each year. Be careful what you wish for.

There has to be cyclists injured due to their own stupidity. It's not possible to cycle like some people do in Dublin and there not be injuries and fatalities.

Tragedy wrote: »

There is no evidence that Garda 'enforcement' has any positive effect on road injuries/deaths.

I'd much rather speed vans (as that's all Garda enforcement ever amounted to) at known accident black spots and Gardaí get back to actual policing.

Traffic enforcement IMHO should be privatised. A private company would have a camera on every traffic light and a speed camera on every road. The only way to avoid a fine would be to drive within the rules and laws of the road.

Tragedy

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Traffic enforcement IMHO should be privatised. A private company would have a camera on every traffic light and a speed camera on every road. The only way to avoid a fine would be to drive within the rules and laws of the road.

Why stop at every traffic light? We should have cameras in every home. Most homicides take places in a home, as do most rapes. We can tender this to a private company and they can have a camera in every room of every house. If you're not breaking the law, you shouldn't have an issue with it. Right?


Right.

RainyDay

MarkAnthony wrote: »

There has to be cyclists injured due to their own stupidity. It's not possible to cycle like some people do in Dublin and there not be injuries and fatalities.

The number of cyclist fatalities is very low. Anecdotally, most relate to cyclists being caught under trucks, usually when trucks are turning left. I've never heard of a cyclist fatality relating to breaking red lights.

I'm sure there are some cases of cyclist injury due to such actions, but they seem to be fairly low on the overall scheme of things. Meanwhile, 200+ people are killed by motorists each year, and thousands of others maimed. So where do you want to prioritise your resources?

MarkAnthony

Tragedy wrote: »

Why stop at every traffic light? We should have cameras in every home. Most homicides take places in a home, as do most rapes. We can tender this to a private company and they can have a camera in every room of every house. If you're not breaking the law, you shouldn't have an issue with it. Right?


Right.

If you want to install CCTV in your home you're welcome to do so and many people do. Within the home you have a reasonable expectation of privacy - not so on the roads. That's my polite reply my not so polite reply is; if you're going to engage in hyperbole at least try and make it relate to the matter at hand.

MarkAnthony

RainyDay wrote: »

The number of cyclist fatalities is very low. Anecdotally, most relate to cyclists being caught under trucks, usually when trucks are turning left. I've never heard of a cyclist fatality relating to breaking red lights.

I'm sure there are some cases of cyclist injury due to such actions, but they seem to be fairly low on the overall scheme of things. Meanwhile, 200+ people are killed by motorists each year, and thousands of others maimed. So where do you want to prioritise your resources?

By your logic - smoking and fatty foods.

Your argument is a spurious one. The guards need to enforce the correct road usage by all parties. That's motorists, pedestrians and cyclists. It doesn't simply come down to fatalities.

Wossack

/gazes wistfully around

I remember when all this was videos

RainyDay

josip wrote: »

5 last year and 8 the year before, not insignificant.

Not insignificant, but very low compared to the 200+ people killed each year by motorists - so where do you want to prioritise your resources? And like I said, there is no suggestion that any of those deaths result from errors by cyclists.
Formal research from the UK about the causes of incidents where cyclists were injured put the blame firmly on motorists in the majority of cases.

josip wrote: »

Who else will be doing the killing apart from motorists?

Yes, we agree on this one.

RainyDay

MarkAnthony wrote: »

By your logic - smoking and fatty foods.

Your argument is a spurious one. The guards need to enforce the correct road usage by all parties. That's motorists, pedestrians and cyclists. It doesn't simply come down to fatalities.

It comes down to priorities. Where do you want to focus your resources - on saving lives or avoiding annoyance?

CramCycle

Wossack wrote: »

/gazes wistfully around

I remember when all this was videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuIzKFIZBck

Best I could do at short notice

MarkAnthony

RainyDay wrote: »

It comes down to priorities. Where do you want to focus your resources - on saving lives or avoiding annoyance?

You are again making the assumption that enforcement = lives saved. If we make the resources argument then why are we spending money on cycle lanes - clearly they're not needed.

It's not an annoyance to the innocent motorist that goes through a green light after checking the way is clear, even waiting for pedestrians as in the above clip and ends up with a cyclist plastered over their front windscreen. That person has to live with that for the rest of their lives.

Furthermore for all the 'Irish Driving' slagging off - its amazing to me more people aren't killed. It's not the cyclists protecting themselves it's them relying on drivers to avoid them which, statistically, they do for the most part. Noting of course we're talking about fatalities here and not what the cost is to the health service in injuries due to negligent cyclists. The problem with that is that it's clearly generating a culture of contempt amongst cyclists in relation to the dangers of the roads which will only have knock on effect in injuries and deaths.

EDIT: STARTED NEW THREAD - SORRY FOR DERAILMENT - ALSO PLEASE CORRECT IF YOU FEEL MISREPED IN OTHER THREAD.