Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

MarkAnthony

MarkAnthony wrote: »

TBH I was just trying to get the stupid argument stopped.

I posted a few Ruskies for the same reason as well!

I hope I never have to witness some of the crashes in those videos either.

ardle1

bear1 wrote: »

Probably because, and it is proven nearly on every page, that whoever posts up their own video gets slated or a show down begins were people look for anything that is wrong in the OPs driving which then causes a shouting match.
At least in the Russian ones which lets face it are much more exciting don't generally cause any upset within the thread.

Welllll if people would just post their videos and stop 'alleging' everyone else is at fault, and say stuff like 'jaysus I was lucky today',, instead of 'look what this idiot etc etc etc done on me today'....
Anyway even if it's just a simple thing like avoiding a bunny wabbit(think that was my last vid)we all appreciate it more than some randomly downloaded 'sick at the sight of' video from youtube.

Mick55

dickwod1 wrote: »

A few bits from today nothing major ...

Clip 1. Car randomly drives into oncoming traffic lane,
Clip 2. Drag race between a truck and and a car(I stopped accelerating when I got to the 60 kph speed limit),
Clip 3. Red light runner.

Clip 3 happens so much there, pass there every evening!

huggs2

Car drives into yellow box.The box is there to allow buses to make the tight turn.
Notice the bus driver drives up to the car and puts his hands behind his head to wait for the box to clear.I wish drivers would not drive into yellow boxes when their exit is not clear.Seems to happen all the time now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLpP9icpwY

ORVEE

huggs2 wrote: »

Car drives into yellow box.The box is there to allow buses to make the tight turn.
Notice the bus driver drives up to the car and puts his hands behind his head to wait for the box to clear.I wish drivers would not drive into yellow boxes when their exit is not clear.Seems to happen all the time now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLpP9icpwY

Well done on giving them enough space to reverse if they so wished to.

highdef

Could that car have reversed any slower Came very close to hitting the kerb too although at such high speed, the poor driver was trying his/her best to concentrate on all the other aspects of reversing at high speed.

Ken.

Fück the bus and car, did mine eyes just witness a cyclist dismount his bike to cross the road and bring it on a path?.

quietsailor

ken wrote: »

Fück the bus and car, did mine eyes just witness a cyclist dismount his bike to cross the road and bring it on a path?.

I was just about to post about that numpty after watching the video. The cyclist can clearly see the car is reversing back towards them and what do the do - instead of stopping no further forward then the camera car where they can't be hit they decide to go into the space between the 2 cars -- between a moving object that weighs a ton and another stationary object that weighs a ton. If the clutch cable had snapped or the driver of the corolla panicked and hit the accelerator the cyclist would have been crushed between two cars.

Korat

I'd guess the driver is reversing slowly because the sun is in his eyes through his mirrors. Just as well he didn't shoot back as he'd never have seen that cyclist. Well done dash cam driver.

MarkAnthony

Any chance that we can avoid a blow by blow, frame by frame, worst case scenario, look at the weather post-mortem on this one? Pretty please

BTW the car was too close to the kerb :pac:

Sorry just couldn't resist!

huggs2

Just a quick note. There were 2 ladies in the car but it could just have been 2 guys,does not matter.Sorry you cant see the bus driver put his hands behind his head and leaning back in quiet recognition of the fact he is not going anywhere soon.Thanks guys,i always leave room for drivers who enter yellow boxes when their exit is not clear.Hope we don't get cameras with ANPR like in London or we could have a situation like this one box junction in Fulham London.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261734/Moneybox-junction-The-West-London-traffic-light-trap-rakes-2-7m-year.html

MarkAnthony

Incidentally there are times that you are allowed to enter the yellow box even though the exit isn't clear. But yes it's pet hate of mine that people don't know how to use the properly, especially turning right at lights!

Caliden

huggs2 wrote: »

Just a quick note. There were 2 ladies in the car but it could just have been 2 guys,does not matter.Sorry you cant see the bus driver put his hands behind his head and leaning back in quiet recognition of the fact he is not going anywhere soon.Thanks guys,i always leave room for drivers who enter yellow boxes when their exit is not clear.Hope we don't get cameras with ANPR like in London or we could have a situation like this one box junction in Fulham London.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261734/Moneybox-junction-The-West-London-traffic-light-trap-rakes-2-7m-year.html

There's very little that annoys me more than traffic lights with idiotic sequences.

huggs2

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Incidentally there are times that you are allowed to enter the yellow box even though the exit isn't clear. But yes it's pet hate of mine that people don't know how to use the properly, especially turning right at lights!

Like this one recorded 3 min. after the one above.Driver takes off on green for ahead only and does not wait for green filter light.I don't think the red filter light was working but still the driver tries to barge his/her way through the oncoming traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OugAkNwBsY

MarkAnthony

huggs2 wrote: »

Like this one recorded 3 min. after the one above.Driver takes off on green for ahead only and does not wait for green filter light.I don't think the red filter light was working but still the driver tries to barge his/her way through the oncoming traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OugAkNwBsY

Actually and I stand to be corrected other than being a bit discourteous I think that's fine.

(i) Moving off on green - that's fine it's only where there is a filter only that you can't move off.

(ii) Moving into the yellow box, again fine when turning right. Even if the lights go red for you while in the box you still have right of way to turn right as the opposing lights may only proceed on green if the junction is clear.

EDIT: Only thing that could be an issue there is moving from thew major to minor road might preclude one from entering and blocking the yellow box.

K.Flyer

ken wrote: »

Fück the bus and car, did mine eyes just witness a cyclist dismount his bike to cross the road and bring it on a path?.

Yes Yes... and he had no lights and no high vis!!! Lets track him down quickly and smite him to the ground for such rambunctious behaviour

TheChizler

huggs2 wrote: »

Like this one recorded 3 min. after the one above.Driver takes off on green for ahead only and does not wait for green filter light.I don't think the red filter light was working but still the driver tries to barge his/her way through the oncoming traffic.

Nothing wrong with that? The exit was clear. Maybe if they were too far forward they could have interfered with oncoming traffic trying to turn right, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Are you saying that if there was no oncoming traffic at that junction you should wait until the filter came on?

Edit: I can see they were blocking the right hand lane slightly, but other than that?

Caliden

TheChizler wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that? The exit was clear. Maybe if they were too far forward they could have interfered with oncoming traffic trying to turn right, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Are you saying that if there was no oncoming traffic at that junction you should wait until the filter came on?

Edit: I can see they were blocking the right hand lane slightly, but other than that?

Not visible from the video but it forces traffic coming from the opposite site going straight to veer left into the lane of traffic turning left. The junction itself isn't big enough for someone to be crowding the yellow box like that.

And yes, they should wait until the filter comes on if it's a set of lights with an arrow for cars going straight (different from a normal green light)

TheChizler

Caliden wrote: »

And yes, they should wait until the filter comes on if it's a set of lights with an arrow for cars going straight (different from a normal green light)

Yes but that's not the situation in the video that we're talking about.

BMJD

huggs2 wrote: »

Like this one recorded 3 min. after the one above.Driver takes off on green for ahead only and does not wait for green filter light.I don't think the red filter light was working but still the driver tries to barge his/her way through the oncoming traffic.

the green isn't just for traffic to go straight ahead only though, the car in front was doing nothing wrong

Jawgap

Not sure what was going on here - maybe someone was using a phone or didn't have seatbelt on......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa9AT99lDSo

corktina

BMJD wrote: »

the green isn't just for traffic to go straight ahead only though, the car in front was doing nothing wrong

Yes, this drives me mad...if there is no red, you don't have to wait for a green filter.

dickwod1

A few drivers making their own lanes today, 3 clips.

MarkAnthony

Jawgap wrote: »

Not sure what was going on here - maybe someone was using a phone or didn't have seatbelt on......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa9AT99lDSo

The music in these vids is great!!

Also don't be causing trouble near my gaffe :P

Odd that he seemed to stop him for a second time.

Jawgap

MarkAnthony wrote: »

The music in these vids is great!!

Also don't be causing trouble near my gaffe :P

Odd that he seemed to stop him for a second time.

I thought the Guard was giving him a warning, but then he argued back. After that I think the idea was to get him through the junction and out of the way of the traffic.

All told I think the 'event' lasted about 2 minutes.

josip

huggs2 wrote: »

...I wish drivers would not drive into yellow boxes when their exit is not clear.Seems to happen all the time now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLpP9icpwY

Well done OP on leaving enough space initially, but between 1:09 and 1:12 are you not doing what you say you don't like others to do?
Open to correction.

MarkAnthony

josip wrote: »

Well done OP on leaving enough space initially, but between 1:09 and 1:12 are you not doing what you say you don't like others to do?
Open to correction.

Don't get it, OP can see the box will clear, you don't have to wait for it to be clear before proceeding.

We're making great corrections here today. I predict that when I leave the house tomorrow traffic jams will be a thing of the past :pac:

corktina

josip wrote: »

Well done OP on leaving enough space initially, but between 1:09 and 1:12 are you not doing what you say you don't like others to do?
Open to correction.

That's ridiculous, the exit is always clear, it doesn't matter that there's a car in front.

cormie

josip wrote: »

Well done OP on leaving enough space initially, but between 1:09 and 1:12 are you not doing what you say you don't like others to do?
Open to correction.

Imagine the madness if everyone did that during rush hour traffic here: http://goo.gl/maps/UpCRQ one car at a time :pac:

BohsCeltic

huggs2 wrote: »

Car drives into yellow box.The box is there to allow buses to make the tight turn.
Notice the bus driver drives up to the car and puts his hands behind his head to wait for the box to clear.I wish drivers would not drive into yellow boxes when their exit is not clear.Seems to happen all the time now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLpP9icpwY

This happens everytime at the first exit off the N3 for Blanchardstown, eejits stopping in the box so 40 foots can't turn. Its bad enough waiting for them lights without having to wait a second or third time.

Caliden

BohsCeltic wrote: »

This happens everytime at the first exit off the N3 for Blanchardstown, eejits stopping in the box so 40 foots can't turn. Its bad enough waiting for them lights without having to wait a second or third time.

Happens around St. Stephen's green as well with buses turning right after the Shelbourne and some fool goes past the stop line at the traffic lights.

Bus has to just wait until the car realises what's going on.

CramCycle

huggs2 wrote: »

Hope we don't get cameras with ANPR like in London or we could have a situation like this one box junction in Fulham London.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261734/Moneybox-junction-The-West-London-traffic-light-trap-rakes-2-7m-year.html

I hope we do, have a forward box for right turning vehicles (one that can sit so that either the lights give it time to move as the light goes Red or if it gets stuck that is not in the way of other traffic) and everything else got done. Some drivers have no comprehension that one of the main reasons (probably not but it doesn't help) traffic flow backs up so quickly is just one or two muppets sitting on a yellow box, and there we have it, an extra 30 minutes onto my 20 minute drive.

I am not sure what most drivers in the morning think a yellow box is for but I would like to assure them it is not a caution "be careful, when you get your green light there might be someone parked here".

Going Strong

No camera footage with little old pedestrian me.

7.30 am this morning on the South Quays in Cork City centre. A silver Suzuki Celerio, 132 D driving along with no lights on and ran a red light into the bargain. He even slowed for the lights, brakes lights working grand, before driving on through.

cormie

Is the law different in the UK or am I losing my mind? I'm having to question myself here, but isn't it ok for the red car turning right to swing into the yellow box, I mean what other purpose would this yellow box: http://goo.gl/maps/mNxqm have other than to allow traffic at the stop line out into a heavy flow of traffic just like is conveniently captured by Google.

CramCycle

cormie wrote: »

Is the law different in the UK or am I losing my mind? I'm having to question myself here, but isn't it ok for the red car turning right to swing into the yellow box, I mean what other purpose would this yellow box: http://goo.gl/maps/mNxqm have other than to allow traffic at the stop line out into a heavy flow of traffic just like is conveniently captured by Google.

Not crazy: https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/road-junctions-170-to-183

Scroll to 174

I would have presumed the camera is on the straight ahead light and only captures the straight ahead traffic, maybe not, but I suspect that the daily mail drew up that graphic without actually thinking it through, but I could be wrong.

K.Flyer

The report says that an average of 111 drivers are caught daily not using the yellow box correctly.
They fail to mention that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of drivers who know how to use the junction correctly on a daily basis and don't get any fines.

Wossack

cormie wrote: »

Is the law different in the UK or am I losing my mind? I'm having to question myself here, but isn't it ok for the red car turning right to swing into the yellow box, I mean what other purpose would this yellow box: http://goo.gl/maps/mNxqm have other than to allow traffic at the stop line out into a heavy flow of traffic just like is conveniently captured by Google.

in the graphic, blue cars arent allowed stop in the yellow box

red car is allowed stop in the box, but only if it doesnt impede traffic flow (traffic moving in opposite direction to the queue of 4 blue cars)

Im presuming from the graphic, that the last blue car that doesnt make it though the lights and stops in the box, doesnt allow the red car enter the junction without impeding opposite traffic flow, so both are at fault - and both fined (rightly tbh)

bit of a daft graphic, as I'd say its more then one car blocking the yellow box, as the red car should be able to 'trailer swing' behind the blue car, and not impede traffic

cormie

CramCycle wrote: »

Not crazy: https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/road-junctions-170-to-183

Scroll to 174

I would have presumed the camera is on the straight ahead light and only captures the straight ahead traffic, maybe not, but I suspect that the daily mail drew up that graphic without actually thinking it through, but I could be wrong.

#174 is only stating that it's ok for the blue car in the junction to stop there if they were turning right, it doesn't explain the situation of the red car at all, but surely at a busy junction like that the red car would never get an opportunity to turn right if the 4 car length spaces were always occupied from traffic going straight ahead, kind of making the box not serve it's purpose, which would be to allow the red car an opportunity to turn right.

Page #126 of the Irish ROTR doesn't explain it either, but does show another red car (it's always the red cars wanting to join the main flow of traffic I see) stopped in a yellow box who has just come from a side road. The "DON'T" beside it, is for the blue car not to enter, not for the red car not to be there.

cormie

Wossack wrote: »

in the graphic, blue cars arent allowed stop in the yellow box

red car is allowed stop in the box, but only if it doesnt impede traffic flow (traffic moving in opposite direction to the queue of 4 blue cars)

That's how I understood the law to be and it makes the most sense, but yeah, it just looks like all graphics, both on the news website, the gov.uk website and the Irish ROTR website don't explain it very well :rolleyes:

Kenny Logins

Ahem. Not quite a dashcam vid, but is relevant I think..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORmZxqEl_AY

Wossack

cormie wrote: »

That's how I understood the law to be and it makes the most sense, but yeah, it just looks like all graphics, both on the news website, the gov.uk website and the Irish ROTR website don't explain it very well :rolleyes:

geez, that p126 of the ROTR book, with the DONT beside it is very confusing.. I reckon the 'DONT' is about the red car, as its blocking cars coming from the left side of the pic (not pictured :rolleyes:).

If it was a t-junction though, I think that would be ok (?) - but Im doubting myself now hah

Macy0161

cormie wrote: »

Is the law different in the UK or am I losing my mind? I'm having to question myself here, but isn't it ok for the red car turning right to swing into the yellow box, I mean what other purpose would this yellow box: http://goo.gl/maps/mNxqm have other than to allow traffic at the stop line out into a heavy flow of traffic just like is conveniently captured by Google.

I was taught (and actually asked at my test!) that you can only enter a yellow box when you can clear it, or if you are turning right and the only thing stopping you proceeding is on coming traffic.

I think the confusion is because whoever puts down the yellow boxes uses them as described - to allow vehicles out of side roads, which only works if people on the main road follow the rules, and those joining ignore them.

Where there is a junction as per the image which includes pedestrian crossings, and "red" cars ignoring the yellow box rule - there's quite often confusion/ near misses in my experience. Cars are trapped in the junction, often without visibility of the lights, whilst the pedestrians have a green man...

cormie

This evening..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fdHCnWXiU

ba_barabus

Let me know who you get to wet vac the seat for you tomorrow Cormie :eek:

corktina

In the circumstances in the graphic the "right turning car can enter the box" rule doesn't apply. That is for traffic turning right at a crossroads or right turn where they would be able to proceed other than for the cars coming the other way and will be able to proceed once that traffic clears.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

cormie wrote: »

This evening..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fdHCnWXiU

what a douche bag , is stevie wonder driving that audi ?

bear1

Cormie: Are you Polish or Irish Did the doosie eejit even apologise?

cormie

He put up his hand and stared at me a little until I just said "Go" haha.

Yeah, I was raised on the English language but had a heavy Polish influence to the point it's crept into my reflex expressions :pac:

bear1

cormie wrote: »

He put up his hand and stared at me a little until I just said "Go" haha.

Yeah, I was raised on the English language but had a heavy Polish influence to the point it's crept into my reflex expressions :pac:

I asked cause there was an Irish accent and then the Polish came out
Still, the Audi was a gob****e.

mikehn

cormie wrote: »

He put up his hand and stared at me a little until I just said "Go" haha.

Yeah, I was raised on the English language but had a heavy Polish influence to the point it's crept into my reflex expressions :pac:

Hey Cormie
What cam have you got.
Regards