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Question about ASH scheme

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    #32
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    murphaph wrote: »
    None that I can see.

    The RAS Scheme is completely different than the Ash Scheme in lots of ways ........ for example you MAY be employed and still qualify for the RAS Scheme whereas with the ASH Scheme you MUST be in employment to qualify!

    Each ASH lease is slightly different and is tailored to meet the needs/requirements of individual Landlords/Tenants .......... both parties must be completely happy with the final lease agreement BEFORE anything is signed.

    Also the rent can be reviewed on a yearly basis (if the Landlord wishes) in order to be in-line with the rental market prices for that year ......... the Tenants pay 10% of their take-home pay in rent regardless.

    Nothing is set in stone with the ASH Scheme regarding leases, the Council are very open to negotiation with Landlords .......... for example our Landlord wanted 90% of the average rent prices in our area and the Council agreed. In fact he ended up 50 euros better off per month than what we were paying him privately!!


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    #33
    fussyonion
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    You dont have to be employed on the ASH scheme. I was offered the ASH and my partner and I were not employed.


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    #34
    fussyonion
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    You dont have to be employed on the ASH scheme. I was offered the ASH and my partner and I were not employed.


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    #35
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    The RAS Scheme is completely different than the Ash Scheme in lots of ways ........ for example you MAY be employed and still qualify for the RAS Scheme whereas with the ASH Scheme you MUST be in employment to qualify!

    Each ASH lease is slightly different and is tailored to meet the needs/requirements of individual Landlords/Tenants .......... both parties must be completely happy with the final lease agreement BEFORE anything is signed.

    Also the rent can be reviewed on a yearly basis (if the Landlord wishes) in order to be in-line with the rental market prices for that year ......... the Tenants pay 10% of their take-home pay in rent regardless.

    Nothing is set in stone with the ASH Scheme regarding leases, the Council are very open to negotiation with Landlords .......... for example our Landlord wanted 90% of the average rent prices in our area and the Council agreed. In fact he ended up 50 euros better off per month than what we were paying him privately!!
    None of that stuff makes the ASH scheme any different to RAS from the landlord's perspective.


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    #36
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    fussyonion wrote: »
    You dont have to be employed on the ASH scheme. I was offered the ASH and my partner and I were not employed.

    I believe you are cofusing the ASH Scheme with RAS Scheme ......... we qualified for the ASH Scheme as opposed to the RAS Scheme because we are employed .......... Landlords seem to be less keen (according to the Council) on the RAS Scheme as they have pre-conceived (and unfair) opinions of Tenants associated with any kind of Rent Allowance/Benefits etc. whereas with the ASH Scheme the Landlords are made aware that their Tenants are in employment which apparently makes the Landlords feel more "comfortable" accepting those Tenants.


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    #37
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    murphaph wrote: »
    None of that stuff makes the ASH scheme any different to RAS from the landlord's perspective.

    A lot of LL's feel more comfortable being able to choose their own Tenant's through the ASH Scheme and being aware that these Tenant's are properly vetted by the Council .......... speaking as a former LL myself and being friendly with lot's of LL's in Dublin.


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    #38
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    A lot of LL's feel more comfortable being able to choose their own Tenant's through the ASH Scheme.
    RAS has this ability too. Ask me how I know!


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    #39
    fussyonion
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I believe you are cofusing the ASH Scheme with RAS Scheme ......... we qualified for the ASH Scheme as opposed to the RAS Scheme because we are employed .......... Landlords seem to be less keen (according to the Council) on the RAS Scheme as they have pre-conceived (and unfair) opinions of Tenants associated with any kind of Rent Allowance/Benefits etc. whereas with the ASH Scheme the Landlords are made aware that their Tenants are in employment which apparently makes the Landlords feel more "comfortable" accepting those Tenants.

    This isn't the first time you've accused me of mixing the two schemes up.
    I was offered ASH..Applicant Sourced Housing...they knew we weren't employed.
    It was never a necessity. That was 2012. Unless it's changed now. And this was for South Dublin.


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    #40
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    fussyonion wrote: »
    This isn't the first time you've accused me of mixing the two schemes up.
    I was offered ASH..Applicant Sourced Housing...they knew we weren't employed.
    It was never a necessity. That was 2012. Unless it's changed now. And this was for South Dublin.

    I am also referring to SDCC, South Dublin County Council .........


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    #41
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    murphaph wrote: »
    RAS has this ability too. Ask me how I know!

    Not officially .........


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    #42
    fussyonion
    Registered Users Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I am also referring to SDCC, South Dublin County Council .........

    Well I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong.
    I don't care really. I know what I was told.


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    #43
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Well I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong.
    I don't care really. I know what I was told.

    You think you're right .......... I know you're wrong having actually personally went through the process in it's entirety as opposed to just being "offered" it :rolleyes:


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    #44
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,022 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Not officially .........
    The signed, sealed and delivered contract I have looks official enough to me. My agreement terminates if the current tenants who I picked ever leave. I would never hand over control of choosing the tenant for a property I own.


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    #45
    annagie
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭annagie


    Landlord told me after negotiations with Council,he cant wait 6 weeks. Council said formalities,inspection can take 6-8 weeks. I dont have warranty after 6 weeks council or landlord changed their mind so for that i cant rent this house now. Why is so long? Im not sure now Council really want help people....


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