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farawaygrass

I admire mol and quietly admire lg, as I think I would be slated amounts my friends if I said so aloud. The world was, is and will always be the same when it comes to business. If it wasn't lg if would have been someone else, maybe not to the same excess, or maybe more, who knows.
In both men's cases, there were rules in place, and they played to the limit, and bent them, but as the saying goes rules are made to be broken! Unethical and unfair-yes, but life is unfair at the best of times. I think lg looked after his workers too and a lot had good time for him.
If we all had the sharp minds, charisma and confidence like lg and mol would we be much different?
Also, I think what was said about money not being your god is correct. You should not ignore community and family chasing money. Mol gives a lot back to racing.

rangler1

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder about you Rangler. You seem to have the cap in hand fawning attitude from a bygone era. I recently had dealing with a few Limerick GAA supporters. There was a similar attitude to JP McManus. Now again I have a huge respect for JP But similar to other super rich who at time preach to us(to be fair JP is not one of them) I like to remind people that they do not pay there taxes in Ireland something that LG and MOL do.

But I do not hold them up as Gods. Money and success at any cost seem to be your God Rangler. You brag about your personnel success in IFA however were you involved in your local community in sporting or charity organisations.

Yes there are bigger crimes but a lot of LG's business practices were sharp at best and seems to lack a moral ethos. TBF MOL has seem to operate within ethical boundries AFAIK. Success is more often in what you leave behind you whether it is love of sport in you children, a love of farming an scense of ethics just the ability to live life. Not a life where money is god.

Money is definitely not my God, wouldn't be foolish enough to Drystock farm if it was, I respect people who work hard to achieve their goals, I don't go cap in hand to anyone and you're getting personal again in your posts....again

Certainly don't respect begrudgery, plenty of opportunities to go into beef processing for you out there, another factory for sale for you.
A love of sport in children isn't much good to pay the bills in a country,
I think someone should wake you up because you're dreaming

patsy_mccabe

Sad the way this thread is going. Sometimes you're better off not to say anything.

farawaygrass

What would your expert opinions be on these bull calves-good enough or too poor to try finish as u16 bulls? Never done it before

farawaygrass

Few more pics

rangler1

farawaygrass wrote: »

Few more pics

What age and weight are they now,
A neighbour claims that they need to be 'Lost' in the furze for a few months before you register them at that crack

farawaygrass

rangler1 wrote: »

What age and weight are they now,
A neighbour claims that they need to be 'Lost' in the furze for a few months before you register them at that crack

Late Feb to middle of April. Registered correctly. About 300kg tops

FarmerDougal

farawaygrass wrote: »

Late Feb to middle of April. Registered correctly. About 300kg tops

You could do u16 with them but it's a long time in shed until next June July..u could let them out in spring and then put in but it's questionable with small numbers

charolais0153

farawaygrass wrote: »

Late Feb to middle of April. Registered correctly. About 300kg tops

Tall orange lad maybe. But it wouls be a loss making exercise for the rest of them

Muckit

The money is one thing. Time is another.

patsy_mccabe

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.

gerryirl

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.

is that what he sold for. I have a lad for the factory next week similar to him and a little over that weight but he wont make that money anyway .. What does the man that bought him do with him.. did you get his number by any chance..lol

charolais0153

gerryirl wrote: »

is that what he sold for. I have a lad for the factory next week similar to him and a little over that weight but he wont make that money anyway .. What does the man that bought him do with him.. did you get his number by any chance..lol

He looks decent on his feet. Id say hes gone for breeding

patsy_mccabe

charolais0153 wrote: »

He looks decent on his feet. Id say hes gone for breeding

He's a bullock.

charolais0153

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

He's a bullock.

Oh lol ha

farawaygrass

charolais0153 wrote: »

Tall orange lad maybe. But it wouls be a loss making exercise for the rest of them

That was my thinking too tbh. Might try sell him soon and squeeze the rest and keep for next summer

Hard Knocks

FarmerDougal wrote: »

You could do u16 with them but it's a long time in shed until next June July..u could let them out in spring and then put in but it's questionable with small numbers

Would u16 bulls be better suited to Autumn born?
If these bulls were housed now @ 300kg, pushed over the winter what weight would they be in Apr/May?

CloughCasey1

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would u16 bulls be better suited to Autumn born?
If these bulls were housed now @ 300kg, pushed over the winter what weight would they be in Apr/May?

Yup.

farawaygrass

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would u16 bulls be better suited to Autumn born?
If these bulls were housed now @ 300kg, pushed over the winter what weight would they be in Apr/May?

I was wondering that too the last day, but say you are calving in august, then these calves will be 16 months old in December, when there isn't traditionally a huge demand for beef due to the Christmas.

charolais0153

farawaygrass wrote: »

I was wondering that too the last day, but say you are calving in august, then these calves will be 16 months old in December, when there isn't traditionally a huge demand for beef due to the Christmas.

Have them at xmas .reg in feb kill in june. Would be handiest

Cavanjack

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

He's a bullock.

Some bullock, and you can still see his ribs. Bit of feeding left in him yet.

farawaygrass

charolais0153 wrote: »

Have them at xmas .reg in feb kill in june. Would be handiest

Buy by having them at Christmas, there is a hell of a lot more labour, and probably expense, as you meed to keep them indoor longest, sat Tull march

CHOPS01

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.[/quo

What was the dearest bullock ever sold in a mart?

Pidae.m

CHOPS01 wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.[/quo

What was the dearest bullock ever sold in a mart?

I bought two weanling for 600 when I was starting out. I can guarantee they were!

patsy_mccabe

Cavanjack wrote: »

Some bullock, and you can still see his ribs. Bit of feeding left in him yet.

Nobody commented on the red rosette on his back. That went a long way to boost his price. :cool:

orm0nd

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Nobody commented on the red rosette on his back. That went a long way to boost his price. :cool:

show sale, was that yesterday?

we have a fancy lm heifer here, was thinking of showing her next week,

patsy_mccabe

orm0nd wrote: »

show sale, was that yesterday?

we have a fancy lm heifer here, was thinking of showing her next week,

Ya, for the older cattle, not the weanlings.

gerryirl

CHOPS01 wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.[/quo

What was the dearest bullock ever sold in a mart?

you know I'll be shot for saying this but there everywhere the Show dog farmers as I call them.. They buy the prize winners and all the best cattle at the mart and are polled rightly. might not make a cent on them but hell what do they care everyone talks about them..

Ill get my coat

CloughCasey1

10 BULLOCKS 24-30mts gone this morning. 3.80bp.

CHOPS01

Making the call myself in a while to organise to get a few away.

tatoo

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

10 BULLOCKS 24-30mts gone this morning. 3.80bp.

Is that an increase on last week ?

The best I could do, without travelling, was 3.75

CloughCasey1

tatoo wrote: »

Is that an increase on last week ?

The best I could do, without travelling, was 3.75

Ya up 5c

Lmx 29/26 U- 3- 414kg
Chx 28/5 R= 4= 445kg
Lmx 26/19 U- 4- 481kg
Hex 24/18 R+ 4+ 381kg
Chx 28/20 R+ 2= 462kg
Hex 24/25 R- 3+ 384kg
Chx 29/8 R= 3= 408kg
Chx 27/2 R= 3= 442kg
Hex 24/15 R- 4= 411kg
Lmxfr 29/25 O+ 3= 348kg

Bass Reeves

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

tatoo wrote: »

Is that an increase on last week ?

The best I could do, without travelling, was 3.75

Ya up 5c

Lmx 29/26 U- 3- 414kg
Chx 28/5 R= 4= 445kg
Lmx 26/19 U- 4- 481kg
Hex 24/18 R+ 4+ 381kg
Chx 28/20 R+ 2= 462kg
Hex 24/25 R- 3+ 384kg
Chx 29/8 R= 3= 408kg
Chx 27/2 R= 3= 442kg
Hex 24/15 R- 4= 411kg
Lmxfr 29/25 O+ 3= 348kg

Cheque for about 16700 euro had you them for long and what was the average buy in price

CloughCasey1

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Cheque for about 16700 euro had you them for long and what was the average buy in price

Not far off that figure Bass TG. 925 ave. Lmxfr 29mts. A calf that tried to die harder than live. Hex last NOV and rest June 16. The six contenintals last of boss man's cattle. Year dead this wk. That yr flew.

patsy_mccabe

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Ya up 5c

Lmx 29/26 U- 3- 414kg
.......

What do the numbers mean. 29 is 29 months I take it. What is the 26?

Bass Reeves

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Ya up 5c

Lmx 29/26 U- 3- 414kg
.......

What do the numbers mean. 29 is 29 months I take it. What is the 26?

26 days

wiggy123

so avg factory price of 1586?? so about 660... so made about 50% of that as profit, after costs etc

CloughCasey1

wiggy123 wrote: »

so avg factory price of 1586?? so about 660... so made about 50% of that as profit, after costs etc

They got a grain of meal last winter and on finishing meal starting at 2kg for last 7 weeks and slowly upped to 4kg so didn't cost a fortune other than keeping fresh paddocks in front of them. Around that gross margin id say. I'd lose a day (and probably the will to live) at the real job if I wanted to calculate the net figure.

patsy_mccabe

That fella that killed at 480kg, he must have been circa 830kg live?

CloughCasey1

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

That fella that killed at 480kg, he must have been circa 830kg live?

He must. Couldn't believe what he killed out. Very shapely animal but never thought him to be over big compared to some of them. Ounce of breeding worth a tonne of feeding sure!

gerryirl

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

He must. Couldn't believe what he killed out. Very shapely animal but never thought him to be over big compared to some of them. Ounce of breeding worth a tonne of feeding sure!

now you said it.. its all in the breeding. It don't matter how good a bull is if the cow ain't no good

Cavanjack

gerryirl wrote: »

now you said it.. its all in the breeding. It don't matter how good a bull is if the cow ain't no good

He was a fair animal. Good cover of fat on him too.

flutered

a load of bulls reputed to belong to the no1 factory owner passed my door this afternoon, on their way to the factory, on nuts for quite a while and silage for more than a week

gerryirl

sorry to side track the thread a bit but i bought a bullock today. Ill be the 4th movement . does that mean the factory will be the fifth when he goes. Is it harder get the likes of him killed. Its a long story how I ended up with him, mix up in the mart .I kept him anyway

Muckit

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

He must. Couldn't believe what he killed out. Very shapely animal but never thought him to be over big compared to some of them. Ounce of breeding worth a tonne of feeding sure!

They giveth with one and and taketh with the other

Pidae.m

gerryirl wrote: »

sorry to side track the thread a bit but i bought a bullock today. Ill be the 4th movement . does that mean the factory will be the fifth when he goes. Is it harder get the likes of him killed. Its a long story how I ended up with him, mix up in the mart .I kept him anyway

Your ok. Still QA

FeelTheBern

gerryirl wrote: »

sorry to side track the thread a bit but i bought a bullock today. Ill be the 4th movement . does that mean the factory will be the fifth when he goes. Is it harder get the likes of him killed. Its a long story how I ended up with him, mix up in the mart .I kept him anyway

Not sure bout the movement part - you wont get QA but will prob depend on factory demand otherwise. I wonder did the auctioneer land him on you after puffing him up and then left with no buyer?

gerryirl

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Not sure bout the movement part - you wont get QA but will prob depend on factory demand otherwise. I wonder did the auctioneer land him on you after puffing him up and then left with no buyer?

Ya I'm guessing I won't get QA but he was not that dear if he lives at all he will leave money..lol

No there was a mix up with cards an mart numbers.

Bass Reeves

gerryirl wrote: »

sorry to side track the thread a bit but i bought a bullock today. Ill be the 4th movement . does that mean the factory will be the fifth when he goes. Is it harder get the likes of him killed. Its a long story how I ended up with him, mix up in the mart .I kept him anyway

gerryirl wrote: »

Ya I'm guessing I won't get QA but he was not that dear if he lives at all he will leave money..lol

No there was a mix up with cards an mart numbers.

If you are the 4th owner you will get QA. These are the cattle you make money on as the dealers cannot push them on. As the young fellas says watch the board, when it says 3 they are gambling not you.

Mind you he is on Bondi Beach at the moment.

Icelandicseige

What are FR bullocks making this weather around 450-480kg ??