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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    riemann wrote: »
    That'll be 3.80 soon enough (by August), brace yourself.

    Let's just hope it doesn't go any lower.

    Not sure if they will manage to pull it that low by August. Grass cattle still very scarce and will remain so for 3-5 weeks. 2014 was the same and prices rose in July until cattle came on stream processors actually guaranteed a price to regular sellers on late August so as to drop prices to smaller producers

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    o/p Cows are back to €3.30/3.40 and talk is that another 10 cent drop is on the cards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭kk.man


    riemann wrote: »
    That'll be 3.80 soon enough (by August), brace yourself.

    Let's just hope it doesn't go any lower.

    Not sure if they will manage to pull it that low by August. Grass cattle still very scarce and will remain so for 3-5 weeks. 2014 was the same and prices rose in July until cattle came on stream processors actually guaranteed a price to regular sellers on late August so as to drop prices to smaller producers
    My agent confirmed as much. Grass cattle scarce and no major price drops on the cards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    If England progresses in the World Cup they’ll be mad for the burgers after the beer.. we won’t see 3.80 until late September!


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    locha wrote: »
    Best I could manage was 4.10 base for steers. Being killed tomorrow

    Ya same as that . Sent a few off today. Don't know how they faired out yet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    gerryirl wrote: »
    Ya same as that . Sent a few off today. Don't know how they faired out yet

    Processors mopping up cattle at 4.1, but lots of lads holding out as well. Heard that most agents are scouting as to report back numbers that are around. But agents are struggling only managing to pick up small numbers here and there. That is ok as long as the no poaching rule is obeyed.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I heard cows are back 10 cent again next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    gerryirl wrote: »
    Ya same as that . Sent a few off today. Don't know how they faired out yet

    Processors mopping up cattle at 4.1, but lots of lads holding out as well. Heard that most agents are scouting as to report back numbers that are around. But agents are struggling only managing to pick up small numbers here and there. That is ok as long as the no poaching rule is obeyed.

    4.10 for next week also according to agent. Have a few coming to 30mts start of July.


  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭dryan


    Quoted 4.10 base for bullocks also earlier today - Midlands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    4.10 for next week also according to agent. Have a few coming to 30mts start of July.

    Heard 4.10 for early in the week and 4.05 after that. Kill was up 2k last week and supply is nearly the same as last year year except that under 30 month cattle are scarce.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,608 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    gerryirl wrote: »
    got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

    I was recently at a place where a fellow was finishing Friesian bullocks at 26-28 months, he buys them in, in April to June and kills the following June. We weren't talking British friesians, but he still had an eye for them.

    He was doing well off it.

    The beautiful bullock is the one that leaves something rather than has a lovely arse.

    I found that finishing Continental cattle, at big weights was too intense on the ground, a pain drawing ration for a long time and dear to buy.

    Different strokes for different folks. (we wont talk about the three Belgian Blue/Friesian crosses I bought for a reasonable price)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Danzy wrote: »
    gerryirl wrote: »
    got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

    I was recently at a place where a fellow was finishing Friesian bullocks at 26-28 months, he buys them in, in April to June and kills the following June. We weren't talking British friesians, but he still had an eye for them.

    He was doing well off it.

    The beautiful bullock is the one that leaves something rather than has a lovely arse.

    I found that finishing Continental cattle, at big weights was too intense on the ground, a pain drawing ration for a long time and dear to buy.

    Different strokes for different folks. (we wont talk about the three Belgian Blue/Friesian crosses I bought for a reasonable price)

    It's about bottom line, not what neighbours think looking over the wall! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Danzy wrote: »
    gerryirl wrote: »
    got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

    I was recently at a place where a fellow was finishing Friesian bullocks at 26-28 months, he buys them in, in April to June and kills the following June. We weren't talking British friesians, but he still had an eye for them.

    He was doing well off it.

    The beautiful bullock is the one that leaves something rather than has a lovely arse.

    I found that finishing Continental cattle, at big weights was too intense on the ground, a pain drawing ration for a long time and dear to buy.

    Different strokes for different folks. (we wont talk about the three Belgian Blue/Friesian crosses I bought for a reasonable price)

    It's about bottom line, not what neighbours think looking over the wall! :)

    Neighbour asked the missus last week...does that lad of yours not buy good cattle like your auld lad used to!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,608 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Good cattle are often just good for Larry and friends.

    Doesn't mean you should bargain basement all the way but the cost of some continentals in the mart makes f all sense.

    There are square Friesians at around 375 KGs going for handy in marts these days, poorer ones are often at joke prices. 50-200 with weight.

    They'll have some weight August 2019.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    gerryirl wrote: »
    got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

    Then why are you buying nuts of it doesnt pay?


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    Then why are you buying nuts of it doesnt pay?


    cause I have too much money and rather than blow it in the casino or on the dogs I spend it on nuts :D


    maybe I should rephrase what I was trying to say in the thread so . I meant the lads at over €1900 had plenty of nuts ate compared to the bullock I mentioned at the €1600. But yes the nuts did pay just on some not as much which is what happens


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    Danzy wrote: »
    Good cattle are often just good for Larry and friends.

    Doesn't mean you should bargain basement all the way but the cost of some continentals in the mart makes f all sense.

    There are square Friesians at around 375 KGs going for handy in marts these days, poorer ones are often at joke prices. 50-200 with weight.

    They'll have some weight August 2019.

    agree with you there but its ok for them sort of cattle when beef is over €4, when the price is bad thats when you could get stuck. no harm and odd few though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I know of a man buying good forward stores and he is making a good living from them. You must remember these are coming into 1800 or 1900 at present prices. Plus the factory know it's got the best cuts off these animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,608 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    gerryirl wrote: »
    agree with you there but its ok for them sort of cattle when beef is over €4, when the price is bad thats when you could get stuck. no harm and odd few though

    Spreading the bets is a necessity.

    Fields here are turning buí, sure could be dry for a month.

    Nature can step in on the lovely calculations.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    Danzy wrote: »
    Nature can step in on the lovely calculations.


    So can the factories.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    gerryirl wrote: »
    agree with you there but its ok for them sort of cattle when beef is over €4, when the price is bad thats when you could get stuck. no harm and odd few though

    you will never lose with those type of cattle for present money. You just have to target your market. At 375kgs now they could be 550kgs at housing. If you have them in the yard at 600 euro, even at 650 you cannot lose. Decent Friesians killing 350kgs at present will come into 1350 euro, that a 7-750 gross margin in 12 months.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I bought a few fr year and half last november 500 kg came in at €750 they got a good due and the last of them went a fortnight ago ,they averaged €1200 .I can not figure what you would need to feed them to get them to average 350 kg kill out not to mind to get them to grade for qa bonus .I think few and far fr under 30 month bullock will kill any way near 350 kg !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I bought a few fr year and half last november 500 kg came in at €750 they got a good due and the last of them went a fortnight ago ,they averaged €1200 .I can not figure what you would need to feed them to get them to average 350 kg kill out not to mind to get them to grade for qa bonus .I think few and far fr under 30 month bullock will kill any way near 350 kg !!!

    Look back 40 posts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    you will never lose with those type of cattle for present money. You just have to target your market. At 375kgs now they could be 550kgs at housing. If you have them in the yard at 600 euro, even at 650 you cannot lose. Decent Friesians killing 350kgs at present will come into 1350 euro, that a 7-750 gross margin in 12 months.

    Checked dates last night on the HEx bullock i killed during the week. Mid April last year he was 398kg and landed in the yard costing €890. Killed last week at 371kg and returned €1506 after deductions. I'd be happy if i could return the same on all of them. Obviiosly the time of year he was killed was a huge bonus. 3 more to go in the next fortnight and will aim from now on to try have a few ready this time of year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I bought a few fr year and half last november 500 kg came in at €750 they got a good due and the last of them went a fortnight ago ,they averaged €1200 .I can not figure what you would need to feed them to get them to average 350 kg kill out not to mind to get them to grade for qa bonus .I think few and far fr under 30 month bullock will kill any way near 350 kg !!!

    First off this is not an average year, cattle are at least 30kgs lighter than normal and that is just factoring in the spring. A 375kg bullock now should put on at least 150kgs and with a good autumn you could add another 25kgs. Let him add another 32-40kgs during housing(120 days) and get him to grass in early March. Feed him 3kg of ration from mid April and he be fit in early June.

    Look back 40 posts.

    He got them to a tad heavier
    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Checked dates last night on the HEx bullock i killed during the week. Mid April last year he was 398kg and landed in the yard costing €890. Killed last week at 371kg and returned €1506 after deductions. I'd be happy if i could return the same on all of them. Obviiosly the time of year he was killed was a huge bonus. 3 more to go in the next fortnight and will aim from now on to try have a few ready this time of year.

    He was about 725-730 LW so he did 330 kgs in 430 ish days . Taking winter and this winter into account he averaged 0.75kg/day . I expect that bullock was 600kgs at housing. If the spring was better this year he have been another 20kgs DW. He must have graded poor enough or you must have not got the HE bonus as he only made about 4.1/kg. In truth he should have been killed 2 week sooner or out of the shed.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Killed at flat price 4.1/kg. Yes should have gone a fortnight sooner. Was only getting 3kg a day over the winter of a 2:1 mix barley and 16% nut. Plenty of silage and a beef lick. Over all his costs were tight so I'm happy with return


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Killed at flat price 4.1/kg. Yes should have gone a fortnight sooner. Was only getting 3kg a day over the winter of a 2:1 mix barley and 16% nut. Plenty of silage and a beef lick. Over all his costs were tight so I'm happy with return

    Stores here are on silage only over the winter if they are bought at yearlings or over only ration they see is 6-8 weeks before slaughter. At the end of this winter stores did get ration but I was very low on silage and they got 3kgs and minimum silage.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    Reckon this spell of slow growth will affect beef prices in the harvest?

    Bodes well for early finishers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    riemann wrote: »
    Reckon this spell of slow growth will affect beef prices in the harvest?

    Bodes well for early finishers

    This type of weather really helps those on heavy land. It will bring out forward stores off this type of land. Lads finishing early are getting cattle off now but it could cause glut at the end of the year

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭kk.man


    England in the last 16!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Hershall


    4.10 for next week also according to agent. Have a few coming to 30mts start of July.

    Heard 4.10 for early in the week and 4.05 after that. Kill was up 2k last week and supply is nearly the same as last year year except that under 30 month cattle are scarce.
    4.10 midlands next week and talks of 4.05 as you say. 4.15 still available but wouldnt pay to travel devil you know and all that...............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    kk.man wrote: »
    England in the last 16!

    Oh, i thought they had won it given how they celebrated beating the mighty Panama.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭kk.man


    tanko wrote: »
    kk.man wrote: »
    England in the last 16!

    Oh, i thought they had won it given how they celebrated beating the mighty Panama.
    I honestly don't give a dam who wins as long as the English keep eating burgers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Shauny2010


    kk.man wrote: »
    I honestly don't give a dam who wins as long as the English keep eating burgers!


    Problem is after Brexit they will be able to source Burgers from south Americia and Australia for a third of the price


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,135 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Shauny2010 wrote: »
    Problem is after Brexit they will be able to source Burgers from south Americia and Australia for a third of the price

    I would not be to sure. Son was telling me that oats us costing 450 Australian $ / ton by the truckload at present and clover hay is 250/ ton tbe drought has caused wholsale slaughtering of cattle with no replacing

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,608 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Shauny2010 wrote: »
    Problem is after Brexit they will be able to source Burgers from south Americia and Australia for a third of the price

    Please God they'll make the final then and lose 4 nil to Russia, they'll have the burgers bought at that stage and we won't have to listen to the nonsense for years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Danzy wrote: »
    Shauny2010 wrote: »
    Problem is after Brexit they will be able to source Burgers from south Americia and Australia for a third of the price

    Please God they'll make the final then and lose 4 nil to Russia, they'll have the burgers bought at that stage and we won't have to listen to the nonsense for years.
    I’d love to watch them win it. I’m not a big sports fan but been following the job a bit and I’ve no gra for any other team really. We have a bit of a claim on Harry Kane too.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Danzy wrote: »
    Shauny2010 wrote: »
    Problem is after Brexit they will be able to source Burgers from south Americia and Australia for a third of the price

    Please God they'll make the final then and lose 4 nil to Russia, they'll have the burgers bought at that stage and we won't have to listen to the nonsense for years.
    I’d love to watch them win it. I’m not a big sports fan but been following the job a bit and I’ve no gra for any other team really. We have a bit of a claim on Harry Kane too.,

    The loss of that loop the loop has gone to your head. Someone give him a flake of a hurl to get him thinking straight!! :)
    4.10 for a few tomorrow. 4.05 after that i was told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Willfarman wrote: »
    I’d love to watch them win it. I’m not a big sports fan but been following the job a bit and I’ve no gra for any other team really. We have a bit of a claim on Harry Kane too.,

    how are you claiming harry kane?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    grassroot1 wrote: »
    how are you claiming harry kane?

    I think his granda is from Galway, he was eligible to play for Ireland but it was never going to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    The loss of that loop the loop has gone to your head. Someone give him a flake of a hurl to get him thinking straight!! :)
    4.10 for a few tomorrow. 4.05 after that i was told.

    Too hot to swing a hurl to today clough. I’ll take a flake on a 99 :P
    4.10 going here too but I don’t think there’s that much fat stock about. But if they are fit, sell and buy back is my mantra. Plain Store cattle have plummeted this week.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,714 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Any prices for cows next week? I think they were holding off giving quotes until England got through or not:D

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Hershall


    Willfarman wrote: »
    The loss of that loop the loop has gone to your head. Someone give him a flake of a hurl to get him thinking straight!! :)
    4.10 for a few tomorrow. 4.05 after that i was told.

    Too hot to swing a hurl to today clough. I’ll take a flake on a 99 :P
    4.10 going here too but I don’t think there’s that much fat stock about. But if they are fit, sell and buy back is my mantra. Plain Store cattle have plummeted this week.

    Was in the local factory today lots of store cattle being killed. Unfortunately they quoting €4.00 for bks next week. Its an ill wind etc etc. 😊


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    The bxtards. That’s very demoralizing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    Yeah, so much for the world cup and the heat wave rising prices.
    Price fixing cartel fixes prices as usual, nothing to do with supply and demand but im sure the competition authority will look into it and take action...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭White Clover


    tanko wrote: »
    Yeah, so much for the world cup and the heat wave rising prices.
    Price fixing cartel fixes prices as usual, nothing to do with supply and demand but im sure the competition authority will look into it and take action...

    The demand is so high they can get away with sending every kind of s***e. Finished or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Hershall wrote: »
    Willfarman wrote: »
    The loss of that loop the loop has gone to your head. Someone give him a flake of a hurl to get him thinking straight!! :)
    4.10 for a few tomorrow. 4.05 after that i was told.

    Too hot to swing a hurl to today clough. I’ll take a flake on a 99 :P
    4.10 going here too but I don’t think there’s that much fat stock about. But if they are fit, sell and buy back is my mantra. Plain Store cattle have plummeted this week.

    Was in the local factory today lots of store cattle being killed. Unfortunately they quoting €4.00 for bks next week. Its an ill wind etc etc. 😊
    I heard the same about store cattle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    310 for p
    320 for O cows
    420 Base for heifers
    South


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Burning Tires


    Bullocks at €4.05/kg base in south west. Dropping to 4 this week.


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