beef price tracker

Water John

Yeah, boning out meat yield from carcass. There were some great miracles during the intervention days. Should also remember the nights as that's when the lads were locked in to rejig the boxes.

Bass Reeves

blue5000 wrote: »

I presume you mean boning out % of the carcase weight? Best kill out rate I've had is 61% for bulls.

yes boned out rate was what we were on about

johnnyw20

How long do people usually have to wait for a cheque from dawn meats? Killed cattle last Tuesday and nothing yet

Bass Reeves

johnnyw20 wrote: »

How long do people usually have to wait for a cheque from dawn meats? Killed cattle last Tuesday and nothing yet

Have you rang them. I would have expected it Thursday or Friday

johnnyw20

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Have you rang them. I would have expected it Thursday or Friday

Can’t get anyone to answer the phone

kk.man

johnnyw20 wrote: »

Can’t get anyone to answer the phone

Probably not a good day with the strike..they might have given workers their holidays today.

charolais0153

johnnyw20 wrote: »

How long do people usually have to wait for a cheque from dawn meats? Killed cattle last Tuesday and nothing yet

Ballyhaunis, could be 10 days to a fortnight for cattle, 2 days later with sheep

Danzy

Dawn Mays Charleville can be 10 days. Often go pick it up when ready, just not to let the bastards have it.

KAMG

Usually takes a week exactly. The one time I rang complaining about cattle grades, it took 12 days. Some shower aren't they.

Sugarbowl

What price per kilo would an AU bull killed at 15 months have reached?
I see on ICBF the one I sold at 12 months was killed and wondering what he made from the carcass weight? Thanks

epfff

Sugarbowl wrote: »

What price per kilo would an AU bull killed at 15 months have reached?
I see on ICBF the one I sold at 12 months was killed and wondering what he made from the carcass weight? Thanks

340 onto grid if under 420 maybe 400kg

Base price

Sugarbowl wrote: »

What price per kilo would an AU bull killed at 15 months have reached?
I see on ICBF the one I sold at 12 months was killed and wondering what he made from the carcass weight? Thanks

Young bull prices were 3.50-3.60 a few weeks ago but have slipped to 3.20 for O's to 3.50 for U's last week.

epfff

Base price wrote: »

Sugarbowl wrote: »

What price per kilo would an AU bull killed at 15 months have reached?
I see on ICBF the one I sold at 12 months was killed and wondering what he made from the carcass weight? Thanks

Young bull prices were 3.50-3.60 a few weeks ago but have slipped to 3.20 for O's to 3.50 for U's last week.

U16 would be on grid

blue5000

Ball park 3.50/kg. What weight was he SB? If he had enough fat cover there might have been 12c QA on top of that.

Water John

A rise of €1/Kg in the price of retail beef would rise the dead weight price from €3.50 to €4.10.

Sugarbowl

He killed out as U=2+ and had a carcass weight of 390kg.
When I sold him in April he was 370kg and I sold him for 700e.

Cavanjack

Sugarbowl wrote: »

He killed out as U=2+ and had a carcass weight of 390kg.
When I sold him in April he was 370kg and I sold him for 700e.

I got €3.80 a kg for an under 16 month bull of the same grade last week. So he would have got €1480 before deductions. The man that bought him put 280kg on him going by my calculations and that is some going because He would have only fed him for 100 days roughly and put over €300 of meal in him. Looks like You sold him cheap I’m afraid.

Sugarbowl

Cavanjack wrote: »

I got €3.80 a kg for an under 16 month bull of the same grade last week. So he would have got €1480 before deductions. The man that bought him put 280kg on him going by my calculations and that is some going because He would have only fed him for 100 days roughly and put over €300 of meal in him. Looks like You sold him cheap I’m afraid.

Thanks for info. That was fierce weight to put on him!
Yeah I was disappointed with what I got for him that day but that's the mart for us now!

Bass Reeves

Sugarbowl wrote: »

He killed out as U=2+ and had a carcass weight of 390kg.
When I sold him in April he was 370kg and I sold him for 700e.

He have grossed 1420 euro approx at a base of 3.55. may be one of the few bulls the buyer will have a bit of a margin on. He have weighted about 689 at slaughter. Buyer put 200kgs on him on him in 90-100 days. Now he may have weighted poorly in the mart if he was there all day and mixed with strange cattle. He would have cost about 400 in feed costs depending on what buyer is paying for ration and straw. Vet, mortality, transport as well as Mart and slaughter fees would eat another 50 euro.

Bullocks

Water John wrote: »

A rise of €1/Kg in the price of retail beef would rise the dead weight price from €3.50 to €4.10.

It wouldn't take a lot to boost our price if it came back to us of course. Even €2 on retail beef wouldn't be killing anyone for all the kilos we buy in a week. I'd like to see BB doing a bit on this side of things

Bass Reeves

Bullocks wrote: »

It wouldn't take a lot to boost our price if it came back to us of course. Even €2 on retail beef wouldn't be killing anyone for all the kilos we buy in a week. I'd like to see BB doing a bit on this side of things

I saw an article in either the FJ or FI about 4-6 weeks ago. Retail price in the UK has gone up by about 10% on the last 12 months while farmers price has gone down by 20-30% in the last 2 years

Water John

That's the point of it. Same story with the €4 chicken, farmer was getting less than 50c to rear it. If the chicken was €4.50, you'd still buy it and the farmer would have a €1.
From my past business experience, I put this mainly down to middle management. They'd save a cent to justify their job.
We're talking about Fairtrade, for the Irish farmer.

whelan2

3.45 for next week. Was talking to agent this evening

Cavanjack

whelan2 wrote: »

3.45 for next week. Was talking to agent this evening

Steers?

whelan2

Cavanjack wrote: »

Steers?

Yes he was saying lads are losing around €250 on each one being killed atm on last year

ppn

Bullocks wrote: »

It wouldn't take a lot to boost our price if it came back to us of course. Even €2 on retail beef wouldn't be killing anyone for all the kilos we buy in a week. I'd like to see BB doing a bit on this side of things

Reminds me of a quote from Pat McDonagh of Supermacs in 2018 saying that an increase of 7cents for him on the price he paid for a 5oz burger was worth 50c/kg to the processor. (Probably nothing passed back to farmer no doubt).

ppn

Seeing reports on WhatsApp that individuals have been offered €4/kg for cattle since disruption from the BeefPlan protests. Doubt they're making a loss at that, if true...

epfff

Please do not send cattle on lorry to Pass picket
United we stand divided we fall

kk.man

Rang a big finisher last night. He told me they paying 3.40 for steers this week and no-one is getting sweat heard deals.

He is not sending cattle till this protest is over.

Reggie.

kk.man wrote: »

Rang a big finisher last night. He told me they paying 3.40 for steers this week and no-one is getting sweat heard deals.

He is not sending cattle till this protest is over.

Gonna be a case of whos first to blink

southkilkenny

Much bigger numbers and protestors outside Dawn Grannagh close to Waterford city today. Lorries on side of road approaching factory. Even lorries parked in centre ghost island not going or being let in. 4 squad cars and 5-6 cops around also.

whelan2

southkilkenny wrote: »

Much bigger numbers and protestors outside Dawn Grannagh close to Waterford city today. Lorries on side of road approaching factory. Even lorries parked in centre ghost island not going or being let in. 4 squad cars and 5-6 cops around also.

What are the rules about livestock in transit , how long can they stay in the lorries for?

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

What are the rules about livestock in transit , how long can they stay in the lorries for?

7/8 hours I think and factories know this and are using it as a ploy to try get cattle in ...

Buford T. Justice XIX

mahoney_j wrote: »

7/8 hours I think and factories know this and are using it as a ploy to try get cattle in ...

In fairness, the hauliers know this as well and the onus would be on them to make sure they can get the cattle back to where they came from before their time runs out.

Cavanjack

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

In fairness, the hauliers know this as well and the onus would be on them to make sure they can get the cattle back to where they came from before their time runs out.

I thought they can’t be stopped from entering the factories?

Bass Reeves

Cavanjack wrote: »

I thought they can’t be stopped from entering the factories?

In theory they cannot be but they are using it as a tactic to get past protest's

Waternotsoda

Any quotes for next week?

patsy_mccabe

Waternotsoda wrote: »

Any quotes for next week?

"No Surrender"

Dunedin

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

"No Surrender"

Keeping Monday night free in the diary

Keep Sluicing

Agent told me 3.40 for bullocks.

Base price

Waternotsoda wrote: »

Any quotes for next week?

A friend told us that the factory he supplies pulled the price of o and p grading cows by 10c/kg on Friday. The factory was not picketed by the Beef Plan.

Dunedin

morphy87 wrote: »

3 40 I suppose they want us now to take the hit to compensate them for the high prices that were given to the scabs to cross the pickets during the week

I think it’s related to the drop in price of shoe polish in Peru which has to be passed on to the farmers.

kk.man

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Agent told me 3.40 for bullocks.

They should not be supplied cattle at that price.

Dunedin

kk.man wrote: »

They should not be supplied cattle at that price.

Totally agree and it has to be back to the pickets Monday night at this price

High bike

kk.man wrote: »

They should not be supplied cattle at that price.

they shouldn’t have got cattle at 3.45 last week but they did

jntsnk

High bike wrote: »

they shouldn’t have got cattle at 3.45 last week but they did

The protest doesn’t have a leg to stand on until cattle supplies to factories stop completely but I can never see that happen so the factories will continue to drop the price.

Keep Sluicing

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Agent told me 3.40 for bullocks.

Just for context. Same agent quoted my dad the Friday before the protest started, 3.40 for the week the protest started.... if ya get what I mean.

blue5000

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Just for context. Same agent quoted my dad the Friday before the protest started, 3.40 for the week the protest started.... if ya get what I mean.

What did the lad you hadn't dealt with for 10 yrs offer on Friday night?

Keep Sluicing

blue5000 wrote: »

What did the lad you hadn't dealt with for 10 yrs offer on Friday night?

He wouldn't say the price over the phone, but was said "it'd be a decent price, and he'd meet me to discuss it"
I'm off on holiday for a few day since Saturday afternoon and didn't want to get involved in that messing.

Good loser

Dunedin wrote: »

Totally agree and it has to be back to the pickets Monday night at this price

No,no,no. Sure to make things worse if anything.


I want to move stock this week.


On its own the fall of sterling against the euro has taken 14c/kg off the base price in the last two weeks. You're in Brexit land now!