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Cavanjack

CHOPS01 wrote: »

What's the punishment for dirty cattle going to factory. 2 lads here I might get away in the next week or 2 but they are fairly dirty

€4 a piece. It’s hit or miss weather they clipp them or not.

Bass Reeves

Jjameson wrote: »

5€ clipping charge on the majority of cattle out of the shed. As long as they are dry and reasonable.

If you push with the agent generally clipping will not be charged

ruwithme

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If you push with the agent generally clipping will not be charged

Sounds like a fiver less for the agent

Castlekeeper

I've a few in calf cull cows here, high cell count, I was going to let them calve and then get them killed straight away, is there any issues with this does anyone know?

Bass Reeves

ruwithme wrote: »

Sounds like a fiver less for the agent

No it a case when they will give nothing else they will concede on the clipping.

tanko

Castlekeeper wrote: »

I've a few in calf cull cows here, high cell count, I was going to let them calve and then get them killed straight away, is there any issues with this does anyone know?

I'd send any cow to the mart before going near a factory at the moment.

Castlekeeper

Jjameson wrote: »

None but they will ko very poorly is the only issue. But do not try fatten them with the calf on board as I’m sure you know.

If you're referring to big calves, we never had a problem yet over the years anyway, wouldn't even expect to put on ropes. Maybe it's different for mature dairy cows and relatively easy calving bulls. They're well fat now, 3+ /4, on 4 kgs all winter.

Castlekeeper

tanko wrote: »

I'd send any cow to the mart before going near a factory at the moment.

Out of respect to the old dears, I wouldn't be letting them near the cull cow ring to finish their days.

Castlekeeper

Castlekeeper wrote: »

I've a few in calf cull cows here, high cell count, I was going to let them calve and then get them killed straight away, is there any issues with this does anyone know?

A little bird told me that the dept were questioning this, hence the query.

Base price

Castlekeeper wrote: »

A little bird told me that the dept were questioning this, hence the query.

Under EU legislation cows/heifers cannot be transported within the week after calving.

“Animals that are injured or that present physiological weaknesses or pathological processes shall not be considered fit for transport and in particular if they are pregnant females for whom 90 % or more of the expected gestation period has already passed, or females who have given birth in the previous week”

Regulation (EC) No 1/2005 Annex I Chapter I Paragraph 2(c)

Castlekeeper

Base price wrote: »

Under EU legislation cows/heifers cannot be transported within the week after calving.

“Animals that are injured or that present physiological weaknesses or pathological processes shall not be considered fit for transport and in particular if they are pregnant females for whom 90 % or more of the expected gestation period has already passed, or females who have given birth in the previous week”

Regulation (EC) No 1/2005 Annex I Chapter I Paragraph 2(c)

Sound, thanks for that, we don't want to.be raising any red flags on the dept''s computer.

Base price

Castlekeeper wrote: »

Sound, thanks for that, we don't want to.be raising any red flags on the dept''s computer.

TBH it's not about raising red flags with the Dept, it's about animal welfare.

farmer lad

What are base prices this week?

locha

farmer lad wrote: »

What are base prices this week?

Got 3.70 base steers.

grange mac

Do your own research but was told by agent get my bullocks into factory this week. They may be planning to close for while. Dont want risk of them going over fat or overage.

Bass Reeves

grange mac wrote: »

Do your own research but was told by agent get my bullocks into factory this week. They may be planning to close for while. Dont want risk of them going over fat or overage.

Ya great idea start a panic. There is about nothing factory procurement managers and agent's will not stoop to. We are at what could be the start of a national crisis and the processing industry is out straight away trying to take advantage of it. Usual dispicible practices.

If (and none of us know what will happen) processor's have any such fears they should make sure that there procurement managers do not start a panic. They have a moral responsibility not to take advantage of a national crisis. But then we all saw there hyping of Brexit, there use of horse meat etc is there anything they will not stoop to?????

kk.man

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Ya great idea start a panic. There is about nothing factory procurement managers and agent's will not stoop to. We are at what could be the start of a national crisis and the processing industry is out straight away trying to take advantage of it. Usual dispicible practices.

If (and none of us know what will happen) processor's have any such fears they should make sure that there procurement managers do not start a panic. They have a moral responsibility not to take advantage of a national crisis. But then we all saw there hyping of Brexit, there use of horse meat etc is there anything they will not stoop to?????

+1
The world still has to eat.

Bass Reeves

grange mac wrote: »

Do your own research but was told by agent get my bullocks into factory this week. They may be planning to close for while. Dont want risk of them going over fat or overage.

You should actually name the plant involved and report it to the department of agriculture. This is beyond the pale

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

You should actually name the plant involved and report it to the department of agriculture. This is beyond the pale

So you're going to raise hell on the say so of a dealer........ that's all we'd need.
I'd say the factories are peed off of farmers at this stage

grange mac

Bass Reeves wrote: »

You should actually name the plant involved and report it to the department of agriculture. This is beyond the pale

I just wanted help few people on here hence my first 4words, if you had cattle coming due last thing one want is more stalling from them. I moved mine earlier as didn't want them going overage or fat if forced to keep them.

1373

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Ya great idea start a panic. There is about nothing factory procurement managers and agent's will not stoop to. We are at what could be the start of a national crisis and the processing industry is out straight away trying to take advantage of it. Usual dispicible practices.

If (and none of us know what will happen) processor's have any such fears they should make sure that there procurement managers do not start a panic. They have a moral responsibility not to take advantage of a national crisis. But then we all saw there hyping of Brexit, there use of horse meat etc is there anything they will not stoop to?????

I’ll give you an example of factories morals .during the heatwave of 2018 , dairy coop s purchased fodder abroad and brought it back to Ireland, the factories cut the price and took full advantage of any farmers in trouble.

Reggie.

wrangler wrote: »

So you're going to raise hell on the say so of a dealer........ that's all we'd need.
I'd say the factories are peed off of farmers at this stage

**** the factories. Every chance they get they kick the farmer

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

So you're going to raise hell on the say so of a dealer........ that's all we'd need.
I'd say the factories are peed off of farmers at this stage

As I said it should be reported to the department both the agent and the plant. This is just another attempt by procurement managers to creat panic. We have being down this road before and your continual acceptance of processor's behaviour is wrong in this case.

We have a JIT food system. Government's will need to keep food on shops. Any run on any goodwill only be short-term as that supplies of that food will will disappear.

It will be very important to continue the supply of hig calorie energy and bitumen rich food.

Gawddawggonnit

locha wrote: »

Got 3.70 base steers.

€3.55 base young bulls.
Cull cows €2.95.

Wtf???

kk.man

“Public transport will continue to operate, the shops will remain open, and we have plans to ensure that supply chains will not be interrupted. We need public and businesses to take a sensible level headed and responsible approach. during this difficult time,” Mr Varadkar said.

ie Mart and Factories to stay open.

Anto_Meath

I would have thought Marts would be closed as more that 100 people would gather in them but I assume it is a decision of each mart.

Water John

The gawkers stay away and every ring will have a lot less than 100. Buyers in any mart, 20? Sellers only go in as their turn nears. Can be done.

Bass Reeves

Water John wrote: »

The gawkers stay away and every ring will have a lot less than 100. Buyers in any mart, 20? Sellers only go in as their turn nears. Can be done.

And marts upgrade there personnel sanitary facilities. Clean towels plenty of soap and water and regular cleaning. Toilet facilities on some larger marts are disgraceful

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

As I said it should be reported to the department both the agent and the plant. This is just another attempt by procurement managers to creat panic. We have being down this road before and your continual acceptance of processor's behaviour is wrong in this case.

We have a JIT food system. Government's will need to keep food on shops. Any run on any goodwill only be short-term as that supplies of that food will will disappear.

It will be very important to continue the supply of hig calorie energy and bitumen rich food.

If that's true and closing would incur the wrath of the dept, do you think processors would allow an agent/dealer say they were closing.......... you must be joking.

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

**** the factories. Every chance they get they kick the farmer

Don't you know they only laugh at you saying #### the factories,........ like , what's the point, only belittling yourself.

bogman_bass

Water John wrote: »

The gawkers stay away and every ring will have a lot less than 100. Buyers in any mart, 20? Sellers only go in as their turn nears. Can be done.

Look at the age demographic. Too many grey heads.
There will be more hanging round the rings now that there is a sniff of value plus lads with the day off work

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

If that's true and closing would incur the wrath of the dept, do you think processors would allow an agent/dealer say they were closing.......... you must be joking.

No agent/dealer made this up himself. Procurement managers are noted for whispering in to the ears if agents and use anything to cause panic to cause a glut of cattle at the gates. If it was the choice of 5c/kg or a whisper to get cattle in the gate the whisper is always used

kk.man

Finished stock should rise judging by the way shops are emptying....

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No agent/dealer made this up himself. Procurement managers are noted for whispering in to the ears if agents and use anything to cause panic to cause a glut of cattle at the gates. If it was the choice of 5c/kg or a whisper to get cattle in the gate the whisper is always used

FFS, You're as bad as BEEF PLAN with the stories.

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/beef-prices/beef-prices-quotes-steady-as-factories-insist-virus-is-nothing-we-cant-handle-39029230.html?fbclid=IwAR1HaJbTWGCGVk-gu-4eKGRkfsguqOd_5jPfmYmpoWGV98-RN0yPzfpO77M

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

FFS, You're as bad as BEEF PLAN with the stories.

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/beef-prices/beef-prices-quotes-steady-as-factories-insist-virus-is-nothing-we-cant-handle-39029230.html?fbclid=IwAR1HaJbTWGCGVk-gu-4eKGRkfsguqOd_5jPfmYmpoWGV98-RN0yPzfpO77M

Cop yourself on us once more you bring.up.BP. look at the date and time today at 2.30 on your link did they send it to you personally they that you hit it that fast.

Are they reacting to being called out on a propaganda trick. Has Cormac got you on his speed dial again. If it was not reacted to on this forum would it have gone unchecked.

Your retired from farming stay retired let the rest of us try to survive after the mess that has been left to us.

Water John

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/mii-outlines-covid-19-protocols-for-factories/

No doubt a word was put out there.

Bass Reeves

Water John wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/mii-outlines-covid-19-protocols-for-factories/

No doubt a word was put out there.

Once again they were caught offside

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Once again they were caught offside

Jokes on you mate.
The article I posted is on tuesdays farming indo.
As yet another Beef Plan conspiracy theory bites the dust...eh
You must think that factories care what we think

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

Jokes on you mate.
The article I posted is on tuesdays farming indo.
As yet another Beef Plan conspiracy theory bites the dust...eh
You must think that factories care what we think

The article on the link you posted is was put up today at 2.30 look for yourself mate just like an agriland article was put up as well mate so it funny, not funny ha ha but funny peculiar

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

The article on the link you posted is was put up today at 2.30 look for yourself mate just like an agriland article was put up as well mate so it funny, not funny ha ha but funny peculiar

Agriland always post beef price article from the Indo later in the week

Water John

Wrangler the point Bass was making is that the link you posted is an article dated today
https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/beef-prices/beef-prices-quotes-steady-as-factories-insist-virus-is-nothing-we-cant-handle-39029230.html?fbclid=IwAR1HaJbTWGCGVk-gu-4eKGRkfsguqOd_5jPfmYmpoWGV98-RN0yPzfpO77M

Buford T. Justice XIX

Water John wrote: »

Wrangler the point Bass was making is that the link you posted is an article dated today
https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/beef-prices/beef-prices-quotes-steady-as-factories-insist-virus-is-nothing-we-cant-handle-39029230.html?fbclid=IwAR1HaJbTWGCGVk-gu-4eKGRkfsguqOd_5jPfmYmpoWGV98-RN0yPzfpO77M

March 12 2020 02:30 AM

That would be 13 hours before wrangler posted his link, lads.

Calm down or take a break.

BENDYBINN

Are people on here for real?
Supermarket shelves stripped bare of all types of beef.....demand unprecedented
Prices will only go one way and that’s up..
Farmers will be doing well to keep factories supplied.

charolais0153

Lad that works in a chicken factory i know said that orders are up 300%, mad too, youd think that people wilould be eating the same amount haha

Anto_Meath

People are pure made, I believe electrical shops cant keep chest freezers in stock.
Panic buying and in a few months then people will be flinging the lot out..

Dozer1

Shhh, I need a cheap s/h freezer don't be telling people its crazy to buy new ones

MIKEKC

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Are people on here for real?
Supermarket shelves stripped bare of all types of beef.....demand unprecedented
Prices will only go one way and that’s up..
Farmers will be doing well to keep factories supplied.

People are all stocked up, so won't need any more for a while. Why should prices go up?

BENDYBINN

MIKEKC wrote: »

People are all stocked up, so won't need any more for a while. Why should prices go up?

Yea all the shops are going to be empty tomorrow....everyone is all stocked up......the government should hire you!!

ruwithme

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Are people on here for real?
Supermarket shelves stripped bare of all types of beef.....demand unprecedented
Prices will only go one way and that’s up..
Farmers will be doing well to keep factories supplied.

Easy bendy, you have me heart racing reading that.

MIKEKC

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Yea all the shops are going to be empty tomorrow....everyone is all stocked up......the government should hire you!!

Crowds much smaller today, must be all stocked up. No improvement in cattle prices for next week