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Duke92

Dunedin wrote: »

Have to back on strike.........

Thank god with covid 19 we won’t have them out to make things even worse

Dunedin

Dunedin wrote: »

Have to back on strike.........

Calm down, only joking. Staying safe and alive is the goal at the minute.

kk.man

Jjameson wrote: »

Not at all. Any price will do as long as you can get them sold. Just need the marts open to replace them. Let away a big one cheap and buy back the small ones dear!

Seriously though, word of uk retail beef flying however there only one winner there. I thought Justin’s piece in the journal was fairly well thought out this week but no doubt it certainly won’t be acted on in any organised way.

I was disappointed with his editorial tbh.

He was calling for intervention for dairy and stating the consequences of a collapse in income for the milk producer. I don't recall him calling for intervention for beef during the protests and the beef farmer still enduring bad prices.

wrangler

kk.man wrote: »

I was disappointed with his editorial tbh.

He was calling for intervention for dairy and stating the consequences of a collapse in income for the milk producer. I don't recall him calling for intervention for beef during the protests and the beef farmer still enduring bad prices.

The Irish haven't a great record with beef intervention, don't think there'll ever be intervention here again

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

The Irish beef processors haven't a great record with beef intervention, don't think there'll ever be intervention here again

Corrected that for you

MfMan

Duke92 wrote: »

Heard Monday’s quotes €3:50

Heard only want / taking < 400Kg dead. Funny, didn't hear about the 3,4 month period of notice for this.

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Corrected that for you

No mistake, you've just led a sheltered life.
Weren't farmers caught out during the foot and mouth cull. they could have the same sheep at numerous inspection but they couldn't slaughter/cull them any more than once.

wrangler

MfMan wrote: »

Heard only want / taking < 400Kg dead. Funny, didn't hear about the 3,4 month period of notice for this.

Yea, I laughed when I heard that being agreed.
Customer sets the specs and they're always right

Bass Reeves

wrangler wrote: »

No mistake, you've just led a sheltered life.
Weren't farmers caught out during the foot and mouth cull. they could have the same sheep at numerous inspection but they couldn't slaughter/cull them any more than once.

You made a statement about intervention and I corrected it. There will always be a small minority in any profession that act illegally whether it be solicitors, builders or farmers.

However where at timers virtually the whole industry has acted illegally as in the horsemeat scandal or what happened with intervention is unusual. You blamed all Irish, not those responsible for the intervention saga. No point now throwing a different story into the pot

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

You made a statement about intervention and I corrected it. There will always be a small minority in any profession that act illegally whether it be solicitors, builders or farmers.

However where at timers virtually the whole industry has acted illegally as in the horsemeat scandal or what happened with intervention is unusual. You blamed all Irish, not those responsible for the intervention saga. No point now throwing a different story into the pot

Just highlighting that our sector needn't take the high moral ground, I could tell you lots of different stories in my experiences

tanko

wrangler wrote: »

Just highlighting that our sector needn't take the high moral ground, I could tell you lots of different stories in my experiences

Can you tell us the story about how your beef baron buddies couldn't tell the difference between horses and cattle?

juniorfarmer

tanko wrote: »

Can you tell us the story about how your beef baron buddies couldn't tell the difference between horses and cattle?

I can. They forgot to collect their specsavers prescriptions for the previous few months earlier and <Mod snip>

wrangler

tanko wrote: »

Can you tell us the story about how your beef baron buddies couldn't tell the difference between horses and cattle?

And our public (dis)service let them away with it, why wouldn't they take advantage,

wrangler

juniorfarmer wrote: »

I can. They forgot to collect their specsavers prescriptions for the previous few months earlier <Mod snip>

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Was just saying that to the dogs this morning, 10k walk with them this morning,not bad for a pensioner
Beef processors can't be all bad, a lot of farmers seem to sell to them

whelan2

wrangler wrote: »

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Was just saying that to the dogs this morning, 10k walk with them this morning,not bad for a pensioner
Beef processors can't be all bad, a lot of farmers seem to sell to them

Hope you didn't go further than 2km from home

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

Hope you didn't go further than 2km from home

I have a 6.5k circuit that I seldom meet anyone on, and don't need leads or pooh bags for the dogs. I walk it every morning, did most of it again because it was such a nice morning, we winter four rams nearby so have to drive that far anyway to feed them,
The road we live on is too busy with walkers these days

blue5000

MOD NOTE juniorfarmer don't post in this thread for 24 hours. In the meantime have a read of the charter.

MfMan

wrangler wrote: »

Just highlighting that our sector needn't take the high moral ground, I could tell you lots of different stories in my experiences

Or as I said before how they brought lamb in from the north in the dead of night at the time of the foot-and-mouth crisis....

Water John

Every dog on the street knew about the Scottish lamb. But it took a certain Tipperary lady to nail it. So many didn't want to know.

Base price

MfMan wrote: »

Or as I said before how they brought lamb in from the north in the dead of night at the time of the foot-and-mouth crisis....

Reminds me of the Garda operation code named Oxblood. A cattle dealer from Meath was jailed for 3 years due to cattle tag irregularities during the FMD crisis.

wrangler

MfMan wrote: »

Or as I said before how they brought lamb in from the north in the dead of night at the time of the foot-and-mouth crisis....

And they exporting Irish beef into britain under the noses of Welsh and English farmers....... scandalous carry on.
Cop yourself on, there's a hell of alot more meat going into Britain from here than going the other way.
We should stop the trade both ways and see what'll happen

ruwithme

Base price wrote: »

Reminds me of the Garda operation code named Oxblood. A cattle dealer from Meath was jailed for 3 years due to cattle tag irregularities during the FMD crisis.

I'm not familiar with the case, but i bet they didn't keep the rascal 3 days behind bars, if he even got that far

MfMan

wrangler wrote: »

And they exporting Irish beef into britain under the noses of Welsh and English farmers....... scandalous carry on.
Cop yourself on, there's a hell of alot more meat going into Britain from here than going the other way.
We should stop the trade both ways and see what'll happen

You cop yourself on Wrangler. They brought in livestock illegally across a border at a time of lockdown and a time of grave crisis to the livestock industry in this country. Remember the Primetime program on this? You ok with that kind of conduct?

wrangler

MfMan wrote: »

You cop yourself on Wrangler. They brought in livestock illegally across a border at a time of lockdown and a time of grave crisis to the livestock industry in this country. Remember the Primetime program on this? You ok with that kind of conduct?

Imported sheep brought in F and M and some were unloaded at a farm on the way to the factory. mightn't have been a problem or even spotted had the whole load got to the factory, don't remember them transporting during the lockdown, I doubt that they did or even could such was the lockdown at the time

MfMan

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/farmer-is-sorry-he-imported-sheep-linked-to-disease-1.288372

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sheep-from-north-smuggled-here-after-import-ban-26092657.html

wrangler

MfMan wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/farmer-is-sorry-he-imported-sheep-linked-to-disease-1.288372

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sheep-from-north-smuggled-here-after-import-ban-26092657.html

Looks like this was just hearsay

''As a result of our continuing investigation into a consignment of 248 sheep which arrived at the Athleague plant from the North on February 20, it would now appear that another consignment which originated in the North was taken to Kepak on February 22 and the animals were killed on the 23rd.''


was it ever proven

DukeCaboom

Jjameson wrote: »

A beef baron has a large holding of land near here and the stories of skullduggery are dying out now with an aging generation but the stories should be wrote down for posterity really..

In the late 70,s a woman sold an aged cow to a factory agent for very small money and received a cheque and kill out sheet from the factory. 3 weeks later the cow was on her yard having walked the beach from the said land to her home. (The cow spent her life grazing the long acre and knew the beach) There was a couple of hundred dead but still living such cows congregated in the sand banks of the holding. The reasons why I can’t remember.

Ha ha, i burst laughing when i read that. I know them & the story well.

Base price

ruwithme wrote: »

I'm not familiar with the case, but i bet they didn't keep the rascal 3 days behind bars, if he even got that far

From memory he did a year and a half. The sentencing judge said that what he did was a treasonable act. The fooker got off lightly.

Bass Reeves

Base price wrote: »

From memory he did a year and a half. The sentencing judge said that what he did was a treasonable act. The fooker got off lightly.

And the processor that...ahem did not know the lambs were not Irish (for that matter they could have been horses) were left off scott free as well. It takes two to tango but only one is left with the baby. And the processors are never left with the baby

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

And the processor that...ahem did not know the lambs were not Irish (for that matter they could have been horses) were left off scott free as well. It takes two to tango but only one is left with the baby. And the processors are never left with the baby

Paperwork was wrong or non excistant , that's all they could jail the dealer on

memorystick

Any quotes?

epfff

memorystick wrote: »

Any quotes?

350 getting more than i want and i dont want anything over 360kg

Robson99

epfff wrote: »

350 getting more than i want and i dont want anything over 360kg

Athleague id say that is ....great men for moving the goalposts without any forewarning...typical arrogant ****e out of them

memorystick

epfff wrote: »

350 getting more than i want and i dont want anything over 360kg

Are you a factory owner?

DukeCaboom

An agent had 3 Deckers of cattle bought down and when the €350 was mentioned two were canceled. Both farmers said not selling at that price and they cant even replace them.

epfff

memorystick wrote: »

Are you a factory owner?

Not yet.
But soon real soon.

Just quoting what one of my future employees said on phone to me

Robson99

epfff wrote: »

Not yet.
But soon real soon.

Just quoting what one of my future employees said on phone to me

That's them word for word.....if you can't beat them..

DukeCaboom

330 u bulls next week

memorystick

Anyone else here totally disillusioned with beef farming?

Water John

It's a nice occupation, if it made money.

I says

memorystick wrote: »

Anyone else here totally disillusioned with beef farming?

I bought just enough fert to go a bag to the acre and set stock what I have. I’ve bought no summer grazers and won’t bother me backside with silage this year. No point in doing anything else because the money isn’t in it, what I’ve out at the moment is worthless than I paid for them last backend.
Christ above the dairy calves must be worthless this time. How long will this last who knows it’s what’s left after is the thing.

Gman1987

I says wrote: »

I bought just enough fert to go a bag to the acre and set stock what I have. I’ve bought no summer grazers and won’t bother me backside with silage this year. No point in doing anything else because the money isn’t in it, what I’ve out at the moment is worthless than I paid for them last backend.
Christ above the dairy calves must be worthless this time. How long will this last who knows it’s what’s left after is the thing.

I could do with about 35 more cattle but looking at what lads are looking for them on Done Deal and given factory prices falling back they could be expensive lawnmowers so might be best to not buy

Duke92

memorystick wrote: »

Anyone else here totally disillusioned with beef farming?

That’s putting it nicely I’d be kick out of this if I said what I really taught
Bought cattle in feb taught they might be good
And don’t ask me what I paid for them

kk.man

Ger1987 wrote: »

I could do with about 35 more cattle but looking at what lads are looking for them on Done Deal and given factory prices falling back they could be expensive lawnmowers so might be best to not buy

IMO lads are looking far too much for them. I have a theory that's their opening bid and wounder what's the actual sale price.
If sellers want money for loans etc they will have to sell and buyers should be walk away till the price is fair given the current state of fat cattle.

jntsnk

Duke92 wrote: »

That’s putting it nicely I’d be kick out of this if I said what I really taught
Bought cattle in feb taught they might be good
And don’t ask me what I paid for them

Ya , stocked up for the year , as normal, early in the year. Now sorry also but who would’ve seen this virus coming

jntsnk

memorystick wrote: »

Anyone else here totally disillusioned with beef farming?

Totally! This was the last thing that was needed for beef. And Brexit is still hanging out there. I’m farming full time and was happy at it and making enough but after this year and the future , thinking sitting on my entitlement, and a part time job . Until things settle down for a few years. Land will always be there . Too much turbulence at present

CHOPS01

Ger1987 wrote: »

I could do with about 35 more cattle but looking at what lads are looking for them on Done Deal and given factory prices falling back they could be expensive lawnmowers so might be best to not buy

Went to see a few 2yr old HEx bullocks off sucklers that an auld lad had on DD this morning. Nice fella but a nice bit off the mark.
Without being weighed looked about 500-525kg max. Asking €1150 I was offering €1000. I came to €1050 and he dropped €50 to €1100. Wished him the best of luck with them but too rich for me I says.
Rang another lad. A bunch of 2yr old LM and CH outwintered and looked nice in the pics. Weighed and came in at between 520 and 530kg. Asking €1350 !!
Don't think some lads realise where factory prices are headed.

Gman1987

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Went to see a few 2yr old HEx bullocks off sucklers that an auld lad had on DD this morning. Nice fella but a nice bit off the mark.
Without being weighed looked about 500-525kg max. Asking €1150 I was offering €1000. I came to €1050 and he dropped €50 to €1100. Wished him the best of luck with them but too rich for me I says.
Rang another lad. A bunch of 2yr old LM and CH outwintered and looked nice in the pics. Weighed and came in at between 520 and 530kg. Asking €1350 !!
Don't think some lads realise where factory prices are headed.

They would just about come into €1000 off the present beef price while hitting all the grades re quality etc. €50 less if beef price dropped €0.20c/kg .

Weight 525kg
Killout 52%
Deadweight 273kg
Beefprice 3.70/kg including quality
Total €1010.1

kk.man

jntsnk wrote: »

Totally! This was the last thing that was needed for beef. And Brexit is still hanging out there. I’m farming full time and was happy at it and making enough but after this year and the future , thinking sitting on my entitlement, and a part time job . Until things settle down for a few years. Land will always be there . Too much turbulence at present

I really feel sorry for the full-time beef and sheep farmer. I was hoping to be one years ago but now you would need substantial acreage and work like a slave to bring in the industrial wage even with subs.

memorystick

kk.man wrote: »

I really feel sorry for the full-time beef and sheep farmer. I was hoping to be one years ago but now you would need substantial acreage and work like a slave to bring in the industrial wage even with subs.

You’d work yourself into an ejit and never have a decent few pound in your pocket.