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davidk1394

An iidea what heifers are making in the factory... have a few AA nearly fit

TUBBY

davidk1394 wrote: »

An iidea what heifers are making in the factory... have a few AA nearly fit

3.80 and get 13 bonus for aa ifor ya ring angus group.

tatoo

Any quotes for bullocks next week lads ?

restive

Just got a text from IFA steers base 3.80 - 3.85 for next week.

restive

Just got a text from IFA steers base 3.80 -3.85 for next week.

tatoo

I wonder will they give that for an overage bullock ( 31 months ), I've a couple of lads hitting their birthdays so I'll try for it anyway.

amacca

tatoo wrote: »

I wonder will they give that for an overage bullock ( 31 months ), I've a couple of lads hitting their birthdays so I'll try for it anyway.

I thought 36 months was the new agreed age?

Hershall

restive wrote: »

Just got a text from IFA steers base 3.80 -3.85 for next week.

Any factory quotes? ?

tatoo

amacca wrote: »

I thought 36 months was the new agreed age?

I think that's only in the pipeline, going by an email I got from the ICSA, they are going to speak to customers abroad to see how they feel about extending the 30 to 36 AFAIK.

amacca

tatoo wrote: »

I think that's only in the pipeline, going by an email I got from the ICSA, they are going to speak to customers abroad to see how they feel about extending the 30 to 36 AFAIK.

Oh…I thought the whole 30month age limit was purely another lever invented by processors to drive down prices….mcdonalds etc had no requirement for sub 30 month meat as I understood it + any export stuff on the hoof would be going much younger as a matter of course anyway?

mf240

amacca wrote: »

Oh…I thought the whole 30month age limit was purely another lever invented by processors to drive down prices….mcdonalds etc had no requirement for sub 30 month meat as I understood it + any export stuff on the hoof would be going much younger as a matter of course anyway?

It was invented . But they have to make a song and dance about removing it or theyvwould be showing their hand.

severeoversteer

mf240 wrote: »

It was invented . But they have to make a song and dance about removing it or theyvwould be showing their hand.

some of the offal such as brains guts etc are used in cosmetics and under 30 month animals are free of the risky diseases that can be transferred

so in other words they cannot sell the offal from a 3 year old bullock to make the product that goes into your wife's skin cream and makeup!!

Willfarman

Anyone killing cattle next week and got a quote?

rangler1

Willfarman wrote: »

Anyone killing cattle next week and got a quote?

I know we definitely have them wondering what's going to happen next. they know they won't get the same warning as before

epfff

390 heifers 380 bullocks best to be got here
I can also get 5 cent less in another plant neither over anxious for cattle

TUBBY

3.80 for underage bullocks quoted for Monday.
going Monday week. it is going to go 5c a week i would imagine for few weeks to flush out cattle so not panicking as all 2013 cattle.

epfff

epfff wrote: »

390 heifers 380 bullocks best to be got here
I can also get 5 cent less in another plant neither over anxious for cattle

Read situatiation wrong
Geting 385=under and over bullacks monday

Robson99

epfff wrote: »

390 heifers 380 bullocks best to be got here
I can also get 5 cent less in another plant neither over anxious for cattle

Is he 3.90 for heifers easily got??

tatoo

epfff wrote: »

Read situatiation wrong
Geting 385=under and over bullacks monday

What side of the country is that in ?

royaler83

rangler1 wrote: »

I know we definitely have them wondering what's going to happen next. they know they won't get the same warning as before

Id say larry is quaking in his boots alright :rolleyes:

blue5000

royaler83 wrote: »

Id say larry is quaking in his boots alright :rolleyes:

Boners were on time and a half today (sat) in nena

rangler1

blue5000 wrote: »

Boners were on time and a half today (sat) in nena

That's what we like to hear, at least it's costing them

TITANIUM.

blue5000 wrote: »

Boners were on time and a half today (sat) in nena

That's interesting.
Was it just the pre Christmas push I wonder? Or are they genuinely fearful of being blockaded?

royaler83

blue5000 wrote: »

Boners were on time and a half today (sat) in nena

That may be so but why not have them on time and a half during the summer, protesting just as lads are trying to get animals away off grass was a bit silly, IFA doing what suits them, not the men they're representing, zero foresight on their part.

Bulls cut to sh*&e last spring, not a peep, horsemeat scandal, not a peep, the farcical 30 month age limit carrying on for years, not a peep, weight limits brought in at the drop of a hat when cattle got plentiful, not a peep, cattle about to get scarce and naturally prices about to rise, protest protest protest

epfff

tatoo wrote: »

What side of the country is that in ?

Young heifers 2year olds noprobs
Of they were older a little stickier
Bullacks were sticker too

Think their is a little fear out their wheather it blockade or cattle will dry up for a month

Cavanjack

rangler1 wrote: »

That's what we like to hear, at least it's costing them

Yeah they had to pay close to €13 per hour today. Profits will be well down this year

rangler1

royaler83 wrote: »

That may be so but why not have them on time and a half during the summer, protesting just as lads are trying to get animals away off grass was a bit silly, IFA doing what suits them, not the men they're representing, zero foresight on their part.

Bulls cut to sh*&e last spring, not a peep, horsemeat scandal, not a peep, the farcical 30 month age limit carrying on for years, not a peep, weight limits brought in at the drop of a hat when cattle got plentiful, not a peep, cattle about to get scarce and naturally prices about to rise, protest protest protest

No one wanted a protest last spring, we did one and it wasn't supported.
Every time we tried to meet the factories they lowered the weights and price. Buyers set the age limit and you see here the whingeing about supermarket protests.
We'll do protests when we get the support and it seems to have support now.
I don't bother much about beef price, but it's fairly obvious when very few turn up at a protest that you needn't bother any more until farmers are actively looking for it

Mad4simmental

Dawn killing an extra few hours a day at the moment to. Killing 480 a day at the moment and 400 was a savage day befoure. They are not keen on pushing prices but are keen for beef. Might get interesting befoure Christmas!

royaler83

rangler1 wrote: »

No one wanted a protest last spring, we did one and it wasn't supported.
Every time we tried to meet the factories they lowered the weights and price. Buyers set the age limit and you see here the whingeing about supermarket protests.
We'll do protests when we get the support and it seems to have support now.
I don't bother much about beef price, but it's fairly obvious when very few turn up at a protest that you needn't bother any more until farmers are actively looking for it

Well from what i can gather alot of lads including myself are livid with the ifa for doing nothing all summer.
Rangler, try talking to beef farmers that are not staunch ifa men and you'l get a different reaction. Trying to close the barn door 6months after the horse was bolting right in front of their eyes, is how one lad described it

rangler1

royaler83 wrote: »

Well from what i can gather alot of lads including myself are livid with the ifa for doing nothing all summer.
Rangler, try talking to beef farmers that are not staunch ifa men and you'l get a different reaction. Trying to close the barn door 6months after the horse was bolting right in front of their eyes, is how one lad described it

Even in Castlerea, (and that was a hot hot meeting in Sept) Those that had cattle to sell, no way did they want the factories blocked.
Any way it doesn't improve any thing as you see.

Those beef farmers were a bit scarce at the protests btw....even the one in Feb

primary 2

what will the base price be for the 2nd week of january do ye think lads?

TUBBY

primary 2 wrote: »

what will the base price be for the 2nd week of january do ye think lads?

Very hard to say but 4.05 at a guess.

primary 2

TUBBY wrote: »

Very hard to say but 4.05 at a guess.

i thought that myself,i reckon 4.20 to 4.25 may be got by the 1st week of feburary

Base price

rangler1 wrote: »

No one wanted a protest last spring, we did one and it wasn't supported.
Every time we tried to meet the factories they lowered the weights and price. Buyers set the age limit and you see here the whingeing about supermarket protests.
We'll do protests when we get the support and it seems to have support now.
I don't bother much about beef price, but it's fairly obvious when very few turn up at a protest that you needn't bother any more until farmers are actively looking for it

Rangler ffs will you please for once get realistic about the "protest" in the Spring. As I have posted previously regular/normal IFA members were not made aware of same in advance. TBH it was a token effort by IFA as they were afraid to upset the apple cart.
Unfortunately my laptop is broken and I can only reply via my phone, therefore a short response.

Farmer Pudsey

TUBBY wrote: »

Very hard to say but 4.05 at a guess.

primary 2 wrote: »

i thought that myself,i reckon 4.20 to 4.25 may be got by the 1st week of feburary

If it is 4.05 2nd week in jan it is unlikely to be 4.20-4.25/kg. At that stage cattle will be starting to really come out of sheds and dairy farmers that finish as well will be wanting to get rid of same to lighten workload. We have 2 more kill weeks before the processors slow down for the white meat over Christmas.

It will be 16-18 before demand rises again. I taught earlier in the year that the kill this winter would slacken a bit, but I do not think so. Too many lads trying to make money on the back of a preceived shortage. I think kill will remain quite strong for the early part of the year before the reduction in cattle numbers hits.

4/kg after Christmas rising to 4.2 late January but dropping back to 4/kg for Feb and March. Lot of sad finishers about. Price climbs from mid April on as numbers drop fast. Cattle prices to be stronger at end of year than at the start of 2015.

By the way this is only a guessing game.

Cavanjack

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

If it is 4.05 2nd week in jan it is unlikely to be 4.20-4.25/kg. At that stage cattle will be starting to really come out of sheds and dairy farmers that finish as well will be wanting to get rid of same to lighten workload. We have 2 more kill weeks before the processors slow down for the white meat over Christmas.

It will be 16-18 before demand rises again. I taught earlier in the year that the kill this winter would slacken a bit, but I do not think so. Too many lads trying to make money on the back of a preceived shortage. I think kill will remain quite strong for the early part of the year before the reduction in cattle numbers hits.

4/kg after Christmas rising to 4.2 late January but dropping back to 4/kg for Feb and March. Lot of sad finishers about. Price climbs from mid April on as numbers drop fast. Cattle prices to be stronger at end of year than at the start of 2015.

By the way this is only a guessing game.

What does the crystal ball say for bulls in may-June?

Farmer Pudsey

Cavanjack wrote: »

What does the crystal ball say for bulls in may-June?

My own opinion is that from April on they will kill Goats, donkeys, cats dogs what ever they can get. They have a history of it you know. Watch the kill figure's from Jan on. we have 3K/weeks less cattle next year and maybe more becaue the kill thsi year is 25K ahead of target.

Cavanjack

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

My own opinion is that from April on they will kill Goats, donkeys, cats dogs what ever they can get. They have a history of it you know. Watch the kill figure's from Jan on. we have 3K/weeks less cattle next year and maybe more becaue the kill thsi year is 25K ahead of target.

Oh thank god they are not going to go down the horse route again
Yeah was of the same opinion myself. Specs will be out the window. €4.50 is the target so. This time next year Rodney !

TUBBY

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

My own opinion is that from April on they will kill Goats, donkeys, cats dogs what ever they can get. They have a history of it you know. Watch the kill figure's from Jan on. we have 3K/weeks less cattle next year and maybe more becaue the kill thsi year is 25K ahead of target.

i would say more than 3k as there a lot of 2013 cattle being killed now.

primary 2

anyone have prices for this week?what do ye think the base price will peak at this year?

locky76

€3.80 for bullocks next week in Abp Rathkeale with another 40c on the AAA angus scheme with another 12c for bord via...
11 bullocks going, home bred May & June '13 angus out of a mix, 500 kgs of meal over their lifetime.
Should be grading R- & R= with fat score of 3+ and an average weight of 290kgs....

primary 2

locky76 wrote: »

€3.80 for bullocks next week in Abp Rathkeale with another 40c on the AAA angus scheme with another 12c for bord via...
11 bullocks going, home bred May & June '13 angus out of a mix, 500 kgs of meal over their lifetime.
Should be grading R- & R= with fat score of 3+ and an average weight of 290kgs....

when you add in all your extras for the angus scheme and the bord bia it will amount to a good price

rangler1

Base price wrote: »

Rangler ffs will you please for once get realistic about the "protest" in the Spring. As I have posted previously regular/normal IFA members were not made aware of same in advance. TBH it was a token effort by IFA as they were afraid to upset the apple cart.
Unfortunately my laptop is broken and I can only reply via my phone, therefore a short response.

Large beef meeting here a few days before Clonee , over 150 texts, plus my own texts sent out, your argument doesn't apply here.
Can you not at least admit that we saved you a substantial amount by minimising the cuts in your SFP or were you feeding all heifers in the reference years

just do it

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

My own opinion is that from April on they will kill Goats, donkeys, cats dogs what ever they can get. They have a history of it you know. Watch the kill figure's from Jan on. we have 3K/weeks less cattle next year and maybe more becaue the kill thsi year is 25K ahead of target.

Which will bring a perceived endend to the beef crisis. Basic principle of supply and demand ultimately applies, not anything that comes out of the forum

tatoo

locky76 wrote: »

€3.80 for bullocks next week in Abp Rathkeale with another 40c on the AAA angus scheme with another 12c for bord via...
11 bullocks going, home bred May & June '13 angus out of a mix, 500 kgs of meal over their lifetime.
Should be grading R- & R= with fat score of 3+ and an average weight of 290kgs....

Is there a similar bonus there for Herefords or Hereford X ?

Midlandsman80

Overage heifers €3.80 on the grid in Kilbeggan tomorrow.

Mad4simmental

tatoo wrote: »

Is there a similar bonus there for Herefords or Hereford X ?

Ya more or less the same as aa,

larrymiller

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Ya more or less the same as aa,

What's the story with registering for it then?
Will be killing some hex and aax next year.

TUBBY

tatoo wrote: »

Is there a similar bonus there for Herefords or Hereford X ?

No Hereford are generally 15c extra rather than 40. That's a special scheme.

Duke92

€3.85 for bullocks 3.90 for heifers.