beef price tracker

Willfarman

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Would not be too sure. If they put 230 kgs on they be 560 on average which would be good weight gain. Such cattle always sell well in autumn. If we have a strong factory price next fall such cattle may well trade at or near 2/kg. Very strong price for such cattle and maybe they will be at the 1.6/kg in the autumn but it could be the other price as well

A 180 kgs by next November would be a fairly good average for plain cattle in the main. €750 was buying a lot of 500 kg middle of the road friesians in my part of the country last late October. These types of yearlings are the most overvalued at the moment Imo.

Nettleman

Sold 20 forward Ch stores today average 620kg making 850 with weight. That's 2.35kg (equivalent 410dead weight) no meal. 2 yr old. Same bullocks with meal were only making 40 euro more. Happy enough.

restive

Any factory quotes on underage steers for this/ next week?

Willfarman

restive wrote: »

Any factory quotes on underage steers for this/ next week?

Slaney still on 4.10 bullocks 4.20 heifers

Farmer Pudsey

Willfarman wrote: »

A 180 kgs by next November would be a fairly good average for plain cattle in the main. €750 was buying a lot of 500 kg middle of the road friesians in my part of the country last late October. These types of yearlings are the most overvalued at the moment Imo.

It would not have bought them around me they were costing in general about 50-100 more. However I do not think we will get a smell of them for that next October

davidk1394

Aby prices for bulls this week.. are they up or down a bit ?

CHOPS01

Nettleman wrote: »

Sold 20 forward Ch stores today average 620kg making 850 with weight. That's 2.35kg (equivalent 410dead weight) no meal. 2 yr old. Same bullocks with meal were only making 40 euro more. Happy enough.

What way did you put em into the ring. Big or smaller numbers? Did you match the best of em together

Nettleman

CHOPS01 wrote: »

What way did you put em into the ring. Big or smaller numbers? Did you match the best of em together

Trebles, a few doubles and singles. One gombeen had to be pulled off thier pen gate for beating the bullocks with a stick-all cos he was too lazy to walk around the pen to see thier numbers. There was an empty pen behind theirs. He was a lucky man to walk away from that wee chat.

I said

Nettleman wrote: »

Trebles, a few doubles and singles. One gombeen had to be pulled off thier pen gate for beating the bullocks with a stick-all cos he was too lazy to walk around the pen to see thier numbers. There was an empty pen behind theirs. He was a lucky man to walk away from that wee chat.

Plenty of stupid/thick bastards about the place

Willfarman

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

It would not have bought them around me they were costing in general about 50-100 more. However I do not think we will get a smell of them for that next October

They are always the first cattle for market values to fall off the cliff when any bit of a wobble comes in the market.
And I'm by no means a snob when it comes to cattle. Anything at a price.
I have a bunch of friesians here 25 months old that were bought last June 370 kgs €510. They have done well but I won't be cruising the algarve off them. 330kgs at €750 is fling nuts for these types.

Willfarman

I said wrote: »

Plenty of stupid/thick bastards about the place

Luckily they are buying away like billyo at the minutes!!

restive

I just killed out my first Friesian bullock. He was 29 Months. Looking at the docket he weighted 320.5 KG and got a base of €4.10. His confirmation is O-, Fat 1+. He got a bonus of 30 cent and deducted QPS of -1.10 giving a total of €3.30 per KG. Is that large a QPS deduction normal for Friesians?

Nettleman

restive wrote: »

I just killed out my first Friesian bullock. He was 29 Months. Looking at the docket he weighted 320.5 KG and got a base of €4.10. His confirmation is O-, Fat 1+. He got a bonus of 30 cent and deducted QPS of -1.10 giving a total of €3.30 per KG. Is that large a QPS deduction normal for Friesians?

I don't kill fresians but 0-2+ is a deduction of 30c so to get horsewhipped for €1.10 deduction seems fairly harsh to me. I thought bonus should only be 12cent/kg. were you feeding meal, cos even for fresian that's a fairly low grade, did you get hit for clipping or insurance/vets? and the really bad news, that meat will be marketed as BB QA beef and processors will collect the premium for that, and the meat only cost them 330 + 5th quarter.

tanko

restive wrote: »

I just killed out my first Friesian bullock. He was 29 Months. Looking at the docket he weighted 320.5 KG and got a base of €4.10. His confirmation is O-, Fat 1+. He got a bonus of 30 cent and deducted QPS of -1.10 giving a total of €3.30 per KG. Is that large a QPS deduction normal for Friesians?

The deduction for an O- is usually 24 or 30 c/kg. The problem with your animal is that he graded 1+ for fat. He had very little flesh on him. He wasn't fit to kill. Did you get an agent to look at him?

restive

No Just dropped him in at 29 months although i thought he looked heavier.

severeoversteer

restive wrote: »

I just killed out my first Friesian bullock. He was 29 Months. Looking at the docket he weighted 320.5 KG and got a base of €4.10. His confirmation is O-, Fat 1+. He got a bonus of 30 cent and deducted QPS of -1.10 giving a total of €3.30 per KG. Is that large a QPS deduction normal for Friesians?

he wasn't the best animal in the world to bring to a factory

he needed about a tonne more nuts !

mf240

restive wrote: »

I just killed out my first Friesian bullock. He was 29 Months. Looking at the docket he weighted 320.5 KG and got a base of €4.10. His confirmation is O-, Fat 1+. He got a bonus of 30 cent and deducted QPS of -1.10 giving a total of €3.30 per KG. Is that large a QPS deduction normal for Friesians?

He wasnt fit to kill.

Farmer Pudsey

restive wrote: »

I just killed out my first Friesian bullock. He was 29 Months. Looking at the docket he weighted 320.5 KG and got a base of €4.10. His confirmation is O-, Fat 1+. He got a bonus of 30 cent and deducted QPS of -1.10 giving a total of €3.30 per KG. Is that large a QPS deduction normal for Friesians?

You had good weight considering he was FS1. FS1 means that he was way under fleshed. Were you feeding him much, I am very slow to finish cattle and Friesians in particular out of a shed during the winter. 320 was good weight considering his FS. He came into 1050 euro. IMO he be over 650kgs LW and would have sold well in the mart.

Nettleman wrote: »

I don't kill fresians but 0-2+ is a deduction of 30c so to get horsewhipped for €1.10 deduction seems fairly harsh to me. I thought bonus should only be 12cent/kg. were you feeding meal, cos even for fresian that's a fairly low grade, did you get hit for clipping or insurance/vets? and the really bad news, that meat will be marketed as BB QA beef and processors will collect the premium for that, and the meat only cost them 330 + 5th quarter.

I do not think he god deducted 1.10/KG at a base of 4.1 he was 30c back being an O-2+ and there was a penelty of 50c/kg as he was only FS1

tanko wrote: »

The deduction for an O- is usually 24 or 30 c/kg. The problem with your animal is that he graded 1+ for fat. He had very little flesh on him. He wasn't fit to kill. Did you get an agent to look at him?

That is my reading as well.

restive wrote: »

No Just dropped him in at 29 months although i thought he looked heavier.

Forget about 30 months with Friesians wait until they are fit to kill. My guess was he was a superb animal. At O- with only FS1 cover he would have killed O+ at FS3+/4 and would be up near 400kgs DW. IMO he was maybe 670kgLW he put on 130kgs by August. At the same base if you had kept him until August and he kill 400kgs he come into 1600 euro. I expect the base to be higher in August than now.

If the rest are the same as him put them to grass

restive

He was on meal since November. No mention of clipping on Docket. Obviously I am going to have to get a bit more experience with Friesians. Thanks for the replies.

cute geoge

I was fattening a few of them fr gone over 30 months but without adlib ration a very hard task .Anyway I got shot of them in mart 660kg made €1230 and glad of it .watch they don't go over 36 months as that's another big cut

Robson99

Going by the grid you should have got 4.10 less 1.10 which would have been 3.00 per kg. Think they looked after you with the 30cent bonus

Duke92

They can give you pretty much what they like when it's a 1 only right really to many gob ****s killing unfit cattle
If ts don't feed them ts shouldn't get paid for them
And if he was an o- on that fat he was a pretty good fresian probably would have been an o+ if ya fed him

Farmer Pudsey

cute geoge wrote: »

I was fattening a few of them fr gone over 30 months but without adlib ration a very hard task .Anyway I got shot of them in mart 660kg made €1230 and glad of it .watch they don't go over 36 months as that's another big cut

Cut for over 36 months is 10c/kg in my area. Again I would not worry about it. Sometimes you can squeeze 1-2 in a bunch of 10 and bargain out the penalty. Sending in an under fleshed animal penalizes you more. If an animal goes up one point in the grid it is 6c/kg and if they go from FS 2= to 3 it is another 12c/kg. Do not kill under fit cattle.

Hershall

restive wrote: »

I just killed out my first Friesian bullock. He was 29 Months. Looking at the docket he weighted 320.5 KG and got a base of €4.10. His confirmation is O-, Fat 1+. He got a bonus of 30 cent and deducted QPS of -1.10 giving a total of €3.30 per KG. Is that large a QPS deduction normal for Friesians?

Factories hate fat score one. In the local factory the procurement manager is ways knocking round the yard and would send home under fleshed cattle.

mf240

you cant rush friesans. You have to let them grow frame for a few years:D then flesh them when the"middle age spread " kicks in.:pac:

They grade bad enough when fleshed but grade brutal when underfleshed.

tismesoitis

had an agent looking at 7 under 16 mth bulls he recons 5 easy U grades an R and one E. He calling tomorrow with quote what can we expect. 1 or 2 will prob slip over the 400kgs dead.

Crossakiel

Typically Friesan steers will only grade at O or P and are impossible to finish under 30 months even with shed loads of meal. The bullock would have been fit to kill in 3-4 months if you had to put him out to good grass. Would have been far better to sell him in the mart.

Mad4simmental

tismesoitis wrote: »

had an agent looking at 7 under 16 mth bulls he recons 5 easy U grades an R and one E. He calling tomorrow with quote what can we expect. 1 or 2 will prob slip over the 400kgs dead.

What breed? What were you feeding them? What do you think of the under 16 month beef? Cheers. I'm thinking of finishing all bulls like this instead of selling them.

Cavanjack

Any quotes for bullocks? 4.15 seems to be hard got.

simx

Any recent quotes for cows?

tismesoitis

Mad4simmental wrote: »

What breed? What were you feeding them? What do you think of the under 16 month beef? Cheers. I'm thinking of finishing all bulls like this instead of selling them.

BBs and Lims . They were on 10kgs silage and 11kgs meal. On that diet for 100 days on sunday. Its a good job if we not getting 2.40 for weanlings they stay here for finishing. Quoted 4.10 on the grid for u16 with a 420kg carcase limit.one lad 18mths 4.15 r/u flat.

To reply to the last poster 4.10 does seem to be the best gor bullocks. A friend has 30 goin to clones best he can get is the 4.10.

tismesoitis

simx wrote: »

Any recent quotes for cows?

4 for Us 3.80 for Rs

ellewood

tismesoitis wrote: »

4 for Us 3.80 for Rs

Jave ya many U's Simx? :-)

AP2014

Many lads kill SHX bullocks and SIX bullocks? Got offered a few today for €740. Light yearlings he said. Didn't see them or anything but always hard SHX and SIX were hard to feed. Worried I would struggle in the autumn to sell them.

Farmer Pudsey

AP2014 wrote: »

Many lads kill SHX bullocks and SIX bullocks? Got offered a few today for €740. Light yearlings he said. Didn't see them or anything but always hard SHX and SIX were hard to feed. Worried I would struggle in the autumn to sell them.

SHX can at times be good sellers however I steer away from them as one old lad put''it they are bad to die''. SIX may be an option if they are good ones. I consider these
they are near you and may well be bought handy at sub 500/head. I buy them off you in the autunm if nobody else is willing to.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/british-friesian-bulls/8895885?offset=6

AP2014

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

SHX can at times be good sellers however I steer away from them as one old lad put''it they are bad to die''. SIX may be an option if they are good ones. I consider these
they are near you and may well be bought handy at sub 500/head. I buy them off you in the autunm if nobody else is willing to.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/british-friesian-bulls/8895885?offset=6

Ha they don't look too bad and that's a fair offer. Dealer I think is picking up a few for me as we speak, I'll what he turns up with.

Farmer Pudsey

AP2014 wrote: »

Ha they don't look too bad and that's a fair offer. Dealer I think is picking up a few for me as we speak, I'll what he turns up with.

I be betting that those Friesian if they are 450ish kgs in the autumn will make 700+. Will those SIX's and SH will need to average 1K.

AP2014

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I be betting that those Friesian if they are 450ish kgs in the autumn will make 700+. Will those SIX's and SH will need to average 1K.

Won't be happy if I buy anything now and sell for less than a 1k. Will be paying 750 to 800 easily for what I'm after.

simx

ellewood wrote: »

Jave ya many U's Simx? :-)

Have only heard lads talking in the pub raving about these U grade cows, just thought they were half tore anyone have any quotes for os and ps maybe?

tismesoitis

simx wrote: »

Have only heard lads talking in the pub raving about these U grade cows, just thought they were half tore anyone have any quotes for os and ps maybe?

Black and whites??...sorry for your trouble Had agent out did'nt give o or p prices. Hope agent was'nt the one half tore...I'll get some land if they do slip into Os and Ps

simx

tismesoitis wrote: »

Black and whites??...sorry for your trouble Had agent out did'nt give o or p prices. Hope agent was'nt the one half tore...I'll get some land if they do slip into Os and Ps

Unfortunately it's all some of us less well off folk can afford

tismesoitis

simx wrote: »

Unfortunately it's all some of us less well off folk can afford

Ah now ye dairy lads have had a good run these past few years

aneala

tismesoitis wrote: »

BBs and Lims . They were on 10kgs silage and 11kgs meal. On that diet for 100 days on sunday. Its a good job if we not getting 2.40 for weanlings they stay here for finishing. Quoted 4.10 on the grid for u16 with a 420kg carcase limit.one lad 18mths 4.15 r/u flat.

To reply to the last poster 4.10 does seem to be the best gor bullocks. A friend has 30 goin to clones best he can get is the 4.10.

Where is quoting U16 Mts on grid?

Would you get U16 on grid in many places come May?

simx

tismesoitis wrote: »

Ah now ye dairy lads have had a good run these past few years

That's the thing I'm just a poor drystock man buying dairy mans byproduct

tismesoitis

simx wrote: »

That's the thing I'm just a poor drystock man buying dairy mans byproduct

Aah..my mistake. Are there many black n whites being finished indoors thought the summer was the time to put the cheap weight on them.

tismesoitis

aneala wrote: »

Where is quoting U16 Mts on grid?

Would you get U16 on grid in many places come May?

Pm sent

simx

tismesoitis wrote: »

Aah..my mistake. Are there many black n whites being finished indoors thought the summer was the time to put the cheap weight on them.

It is but have to try keep the thing turning during the winter too

Willfarman

simx wrote: »

It is but have to try keep the thing turning during the winter too

Fuel the addiction like myself!

moll3

what the quote for hefiers next week,got 3 aa 2year olds @550kg looking out of the shed at me?

simx

was talking to a man in the know today and he said give it 2/3 weeks and there should be a rise in things, would want to be I said ha, in mart today, bought 2 heifers is all, should be a small turn out of them