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CloughCasey1

Duke92 wrote: »

14 cattle going Wednesday was offered 425 but wouldn't take it got a call a few minutes ago and got the 4:30 base

Good stuff. Keep pressure on.

I said

mf240 wrote: »

Three posts all talking down the price.

What factory you buying for??

Optimistic chap he is

Farmer Pudsey

Duke92 wrote: »

14 cattle going Wednesday was offered 425 but wouldn't take it got a call a few minutes ago and got the 4:30 base

That the stuff for them. Cattle numbers are tight we have control. There is no point in giving it away. Look at the excuses they are spinning.

February cattle hitting 30 months who cares about 30 months this year if you lose the 12c/kg QA you get 6c/kg back on them going up a step on the grid. 1c/kg on the 3/head QA on over 30 months. The other 5c you will make up easily in weight. it is equivalent to about 5kgs on 350kg animal. That is if you do not make it up on the price anyway.

The French strikes have being going on now for 6 weeks+ so it is immaterial. There is no mention that the UK price is equivalent to over 5.3/kg for R grade cattle. Remember last year lads threw cattle at them during August/Sept on the presumption that there would be cheap store on Oct/Nov. Stores were not as cheap as lads taught.

Yes the factory's have our best interests at heart they are intent on cooling the store price. Is that so they can fill there feedlots with these stores so that they can control the price for Christmas and January. They are trying it on because they will only be killing 4 days the week after next, a few are not killing Monday this week and are full for Tuesday.

It is all spin, spin, spin we are idiots if we fall for it.

White Clover

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

That the stuff for them. Cattle numbers are tight we have control. There is no point in giving it away. Look at the excuses they are spinning.

February cattle hitting 30 months who cares about 30 months this year if you lose the 12c/kg QA you get 6c/kg back on them going up a step on the grid. 1c/kg on the 3/head QA on over 30 months. The other 5c you will make up easily in weight. it is equivalent to about 5kgs on 350kg animal. That is if you do not make it up on the price anyway.

The French strikes have being going on now for 6 weeks+ so it is immaterial. There is no mention that the UK price is equivalent to over 5.3/kg for R grade cattle. Remember last year lads threw cattle at them during August/Sept on the presumption that there would be cheap store on Oct/Nov. Stores were not as cheap as lads taught.

Yes the factory's have our best interests at heart they are intent on cooling the store price. Is that so they can fill there feedlots with these stores so that they can control the price for Christmas and January. They are trying it on because they will only be killing 4 days the week after next, a few are not killing Monday this week and are full for Tuesday.

It is all spin, spin, spin we are idiots if we fall for it.

if I could thank 100 times Pudsey !
Any chance we could get that post read out over loud speaker in every town/village/mart/radio tomorrow !

darragh_haven

Was still offered 4.45 for heifers until Friday. Bullocks back 5 cent to 4.30 in both factories we send to.

Edit: and age isn't a problem, no cut for over age. Keep the factories looking for cattle and they don't give a sh1t about age

epfff

"Farmer wrote:

It is all spin, spin, spin we are idiots if we fall for it.

This I agree with

As I said in previous post it holidays here and UK it suits factory to test the water these 2 weeks

No real big demand until schools settle back in
Clean their own feedlots (near empty anyway)
Cool stores to refill same feedlots
And control to Xmas again

White Clover

epfff wrote: »

This I agree with

As I said in previous post it holidays here and UK it suits factory to test the water these 2 weeks

No real big demand until schools settle back in
Clean their own feedlots (near empty anyway)
Cool stores to refill same feedlots
And control to Xmas again

This is It in a nutshell. Happened last year. It can't be let happen again. Control is with the farmer now.

whelan2

sending stock bull to the factory as he's being bold, what price are they at the minute?

epfff

whelan2 wrote: »

sending stock bull to the factory as he's being bold, what price are they at the minute?

U's. €3

just do it

whelan2 wrote: »

sending stock bull to the factory as he's being bold, what price are they at the minute?

Ashbourne Meats Roscrea. Sent an overage there a few months ago but it had got meal and was 2=. Got 4 plus a few cents, possibly 4.20 but I'd have to check. Was quoted 3 elsewhere at the time

whelan2

just do it wrote: »

Ashbourne Meats Roscrea. Sent an overage there a few months ago but it had got meal and was 2=. Got 4 plus a few cents, possibly 4.20 but I'd have to check. Was quoted 3 elsewhere at the time

this guy is just under 30 months , would that make any difference, br/fr

epfff

whelan2 wrote: »

this guy is just under 30 months , would that make any difference, br/fr

Yep under 30 crucial
O grade 4.10if a little flesh in roscra possible others will take
Liffy worth call
Over 30 you are into different scene

westlander

Just pop in from time to time to read this thread but thinking of selling a few bullocks and a heifer (eldest one will be 30 months at the end of August).

If going to factory I will get penalised if cattle are over 30 months?

epfff

westlander wrote: »

Just pop in from time to time to read this thread but thinking of selling a few bullocks and a heifer (eldest one will be 30 months at the end of August).

If going to factory I will get penalised if cattle are over 30 months?

At the moment you only lose qa bonus of 12c if over 30
If beef plentiful they may give you age deduction as well
If they see you the seller as soft they may also implement some sort of green horn tax on you as well

Cowboys ted I tell you ted all them factory men are cowboys

westlander

epfff wrote: »

At the moment you only lose qa bonus of 12c if over 30
If beef plentiful they may give you age deduction as well
If they see you the seller as soft they may also implement some sort of green horn tax on you as well

Cowboys ted I tell you ted all them factory men are cowboys

Damned if you do and damned if you dont

Duke92

Heard a good one today a factory was by his boss to take in more cattle today than they could kill today
So there'd be cattle left and put the word out that farmers were throwing cattle at them today to bring the price down

Base price

OH was talking to a factory man this afternoon and he was bemoaning about the French farmers protesting and how it will affect current beef prices in Ireland :rolleyes:

Cassidy2

anyone get quotes for stock. got 4.35 for heifers

whelan2

whelan2 wrote: »

sending stock bull to the factory as he's being bold, what price are they at the minute?

Very disappointed. 365kg graded as O1. €2.40/kg rang factory agent.

bogman_bass

€876 in your back pocket is still better than having a wicked bull.

Disappointing but look at the most important part of the situation

whelan2

bogman_bass wrote: »

€876 in your back pocket is still better than having a wicked bull.

Disappointing but look at the most important part of the situation

Ah I know. Thought he would clear a thousand.

AP2014

whelan2 wrote: »

Very disappointed. 365kg graded as O1. €2.40/kg rang factory agent.

Jaysus they done ya there.

epfff

whelan2 wrote: »

Very disappointed. 365kg graded as O1. €2.40/kg rang factory agent.

O1 meat probably gone black already so of no value to processer either.

Why not sell to feeder?

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

Very disappointed. 365kg graded as O1. €2.40/kg rang factory agent.

No offence whelan but he wasnt fit to kill.

He would of fed into an r3 and over 400kgs .

whelan2

epfff wrote: »

O1 meat probably gone black already so of no value to processer either.

Why not sell to feeder?

He was dangerous

Bullocks

epfff wrote: »

O1 meat probably gone black already so of no value to processer either.

Why not sell to feeder?

What does gone black mean epff?

epfff

Bullocks wrote: »

What does gone black mean epff?

If their is not adequate fat score/cover on flesh the meat goes a blue/black and does not set properly so no consumer wants it and has to be used 100% for processing

epfff

whelan2 wrote: »

He was dangerous

All bulls are dangerous
You only gambling if you treat any of them another way
I feed stock bulls all the time but am set up that I don't go near them when feeding and more importantly when loading for final destination

orm0nd

mf240 wrote: »

No offence whelan but he wasnt fit to kill.

He would of fed into an r3 and over 400kgs .

with bill for meal & maybe some one hurt or even worse

@whelan you made the right decision , nothing to gained by keeping these useless your're set up for them

CloughCasey1

whelan2 wrote: »

He was dangerous

He's in the best spot now so.

CloughCasey1

epfff wrote: »

All bulls are dangerous
You only gambling if you treat any of them another way
I feed stock bulls all the time but am set up that I don't go near them when feeding and more importantly when loading for final destination

Difference between dangerous and wicked. Any bullock, heifer, cow can be wicked. If wicked has to go.

just do it

epfff wrote: »

All bulls are dangerous
You only gambling if you treat any of them another way
I feed stock bulls all the time but am set up that I don't go near them when feeding and more importantly when loading for final destination

I'd be interested to see your handling facilities. Sent away an aggressive lad earlier this year. I hadn't been in the same space as him for ~8/10 weeks. We loaded him with patience and a tractor

epfff

just do it wrote: »

I'd be interested to see your handling facilities. Sent away an aggressive lad earlier this year. I hadn't been in the same space as him for ~8/10 weeks. We loaded him with patience and a tractor

Nothing fancy just a shed that can be backed into and a gate that follows in direction of exit
After that just patience inching forward

Have yet to see I that won't follow group if not overloading

mf240

orm0nd wrote: »

with bill for meal & maybe some one hurt or even worse

@whelan you made the right decision , nothing to gained by keeping these useless your're set up for them

Didnt know anything about him being dangerous when i posted.

Was just saying he was short flesh . But ya probably not worth the hassle of trying to finish him.

just do it

It's one thing I'm glad to see in TAMS2 is grant aid for bull pens and handling facilities. I wonder how many will take advantage of the grant?

Farmer Pudsey

mf240 wrote: »

Didnt know anything about him being dangerous when i posted.

Was just saying he was short flesh . But ya probably not worth the hassle of trying to finish him.

Not sure about that he killed 365@2.4/kg. If you fed him for 80 days and got him to 2=/+ and got 3/kg. He would gain over 1kg/day on good silage and 8kgs of barley (or 12kgs barley and straw/hay).

Option 1 2.3/day costing 185 over 80 days
Option2 2.8/day costing 225 over 80 days.

at FS1 at 365 he was about 800kgs LW if he got to 900kgs K/O at 48% he kill 430kgs at 3.1/kg he would make 1340 euro. big difference from 860 euro.

Willfarman

Yes indeedy the probability of a theoretical 300 squid profit would be worth risking life and limb keeping a crackpot nutter of a bull in the place?? I would have no regrets in the ops in shoes anyway.

There is a concerted pull in operation for Tuesday next. 4.20 bullocks 4.30 heifers. Will be back to 4.15 and 4.25 there on say they.

mossiemag

Lads

Have a few AAX heifers, was thinking of selling in mart. Getting short on grass. Nice shape 400kgs approx, Any idea what they would make in mart?
Or i was thinking of feeding on until 430kgs approx and letting go to a butcher?
any thoughts?

whelan2

mossiemag wrote: »

Lads

Have a few AAX heifers, was thinking of selling in mart. Getting short on grass. Nice shape 400kgs approx, Any idea what they would make in mart?
Or i was thinking of feeding on until 430kgs approx and letting go to a butcher?
any thoughts?

brought a 500kg aax heifer a few weeks ago and i got 1080 euro

orm0nd

mossiemag wrote: »

Lads

Have a few AAX heifers, was thinking of selling in mart. Getting short on grass. Nice shape 400kgs approx, Any idea what they would make in mart?
Or i was thinking of feeding on until 430kgs approx and letting go to a butcher?
any thoughts?

saw hex 385 making 935 ( 1 bidder got a twitching in his eye & the other a shake in his arm )

depending on mart & demand ,, aa are not as sought after as hex here locally reckon 860 to 900

I said

Lmx bullock 520kgs €1400 in ballymahon yesterday I'd say the buyer wouldn't want to hear of a pull in prices although the seller would be happy with that.

mossiemag

Thanks lads

I never sold to a butcher before, but at 430kgs LW, I'm guessing she would kill out at 52% leaving 223kgs DW.
Anyone know what a butcher pays? I'm guessing 4.2 euro/kg at the moment. Then that would give a return of 937 euro.

visatorro

killed fr stock bull last week O grade 2.80/kg. was over thirty months

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

killed fr stock bull last week O grade 2.80/kg. was over thirty months

where did you go with him?

visatorro

eurofarm

Farmer Pudsey

Willfarman wrote: »

Yes indeedy the probability of a theoretical 300 squid profit would be worth risking life and limb keeping a crackpot nutter of a bull in the place?? I would have no regrets in the ops in shoes anyway.

There is a concerted pull in operation for Tuesday next. 4.20 bullocks 4.30 heifers. Will be back to 4.15 and 4.25 there on say they.

All bulls are dangerous. However a bull inside in a pen is relatively safe. As long as you are aware that he is a bull and he is dangerous. I have finished bulls and have finished them both outside on grass and inside in the shed. You have to be aware all the time that all bulls are dangerous. most lads that get killed by bulls are killed by the so called quite bull that turns. Taht bull inside in a pen that he could not get out of would be easy and safe to manage.

Had rig earlier this year that I could not let back to grass. Looked like a bullock. Fed him inside on barley into a 2= and got 3.9/kg for him. If I had sold him at fatscore 1 I have only got 3/kg.

visatorro wrote: »

killed fr stock bull last week O grade 2.80/kg. was over thirty months

Admittly Whealan price was a little on the low side however her bull was only FS1 what FS was your's. With bulls and cows FS is nearly more important than grade

Willfarman

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

All bulls are dangerous. However a bull inside in a pen is relatively safe. As long as you are aware that he is a bull and he is dangerous. I have finished bulls and have finished them both outside on grass and inside in the shed. You have to be aware all the time that all bulls are dangerous. most lads that get killed by bulls are killed by the so called quite bull that turns. Taht bull inside in a pen that he could not get out of would be easy and safe to manage.

Had rig earlier this year that I could not let back to grass. Looked like a bullock. Fed him inside on barley into a 2= and got 3.9/kg for him. If I had sold him at fatscore 1 I have only got 3/kg.



Admittly Whealan price was a little on the low side however her bull was only FS1 what FS was your's. With bulls and cows FS is nearly more important than grade

A loaded shotgun is relatively safe but you wouldn't leave it around the farmyard.

CHOPS01

Have 2 chx bullocks. One of em 26 months and the other just gone 24. Reckon they are coming up on 500 kgs. Should I sell now ye think or hold for another 7/8 weeks. Won't get to killing weight here so wondering when to sell em on.

huey1975

I said wrote: »

Lmx bullock 520kgs €1400 in ballymahon yesterday I'd say the buyer wouldn't want to hear of a pull in prices although the seller would be happy with that.

What about the lad that gave €1100 each for the two fancy weanlings?

CloughCasey1

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Have 2 chx bullocks. One of em 26 months and the other just gone 24. Reckon they are coming up on 500 kgs. Should I sell now ye think or hold for another 7/8 weeks. Won't get to killing weight here so wondering when to sell em on.

They'd have to be more than 500kg. On grass alone a Chx of any grade should do 0.8kg without any problem a day. If they over 600kg you may get between 1450 and 1600 in mart depending how made they are. At that age they really should be on the 700kg mark and over.