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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Well lads we could all try sheep! Not protesting again this year. Had cattle booked in last year not send them in and when I did they graded poorly; a number were O when sure definite Rs; alot to be said for seeing the cattle killed yourself then you can argue the toss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,876 ✭✭✭mf240


    barnaman wrote: »
    MF whats the current penalty for overage was 12c the last time I killed a few

    No penalty. But no qa.


  • Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    What would typical kill out percentage be for a young U grade belgian blue dry cow. She is 840kg but not fully fit for factory yet in my opinion.

    Trying to decide should I go to mart or send to factory. Factory prices around here varying from 3.65 - 3.70 for u grade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I have heard of p/b limo cows up to 10 years old killing out at 60%
    Is it hard to compare kill out% ,if you weigh a cow with a belly of grass she will weigh 70 kg heavier compared to a cow standing in a mart for 5 hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,359 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    World Health Organisation has stated that eating red meat is a probable carcinogenic, while processed meat has now be classified as a carcinogenic to humans.
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/confirmed-eating-sausages-ham-corned-beef-and-hot-dogs-can-cause-cancer-34141786.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭locha


    Anyone get prices for this week?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    I hear 3.95 for next week but not first hand. This break in weather will flush out a lot of grass cattle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭tatoo


    mf240 wrote: »
    No penalty. But no qa.


    Can you still get the as 12 c if your herd has been restricted ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Yes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Base price wrote: »
    World Health Organisation has stated that eating red meat is a probable carcinogenic, while processed meat has now be classified as a carcinogenic to humans.
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/confirmed-eating-sausages-ham-corned-beef-and-hot-dogs-can-cause-cancer-34141786.html

    Yeah seen that.wont make a blind bit of notice


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭tatoo


    ....processed meats apparently in the same category as Asbestos - what kind of nutjob w@nkers are this crowd ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    3.90 blks Slaney


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    3.90 seems to be the run of it for next week.. But that said there's no problem booking in cattle. Pick your day...


  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    Abp 3.95 Slaney 3.95 can't get the 4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Duke92 wrote: »
    Abp 3.95 Slaney 3.95 can't get the 4

    3.90 slaney today. Can't get 3.95. I' tell em I know the duke.. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    3.90 in Nenagh 12 blks. 10 chx and 2lmx all underage 27-28mts and qa Lovely morning for it and all here!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    Ya must have 3 or 4 or very heavy cattle overage cattle if Slaney Slaney won't give u 3.95


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Underage. 5 Handy enough cattle. A few lads got 3.95 last week but no one got it this week they are telling me. How many did you send?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,876 ✭✭✭mf240


    They will always pay a few cents more to lads that are further away.

    Feeding the last 12 grass cattle here. Will try hold them on for the 4


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭tatoo


    Willfarman wrote: »
    3.90 slaney today. Can't get 3.95. I' tell em I know the duke.. :confused:


    You should have told them you're a hardened seller !


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  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Lads not too well versed on factory prices
    Trying to sort out old lads cattle. Long story. Non QA cattle most of them over 30 month HEX and AAX.
    Just off the phone to the agent 3.80 on the grid with Moyvalley.Says he'll see if he can get a bit more.What exactly is "on the grid". Too lazy to look back through this thread !
    Agent has always looked out for the father who is not well at the moment so I trust him. In fairness to him he looked at trying to sort QA but even if I got that sorted within 2 to 3 weeks cattle will probably have dropped back a good bit with the change in the weather.
    Am I as well off to let em off to hell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Anyone care to tell me what a u+3= 28 month old bullock 444kg dead would have come into last July roughly? Can remember selling him as a weanling very cheaply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭tanko


    Anyone care to tell me what a u+3= 28 month old bullock 444kg dead would have come into last July roughly? Can remember selling him as a weanling very cheaply.

    €2,000 I'd say. You must have got your ICBF suckler cow report today too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭westlander


    Hello lads,
    I've 2 over 30 month old bullocks to go. I guess mart is the best route. Both charolais/limo crosses - sandy coloured gents.

    550 Kgs for both at least.

    What would you accept if it was you selling them :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    tanko wrote: »
    €2,000 I'd say. You must have got your ICBF suckler cow report today too.

    Ya I did alright. Was thinking it would be around that myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Lads not too well versed on factory prices
    Trying to sort out old lads cattle. Long story. Non QA cattle most of them over 30 month HEX and AAX.
    Just off the phone to the agent 3.80 on the grid with Moyvalley.Says he'll see if he can get a bit more.What exactly is "on the grid". Too lazy to look back through this thread !
    Agent has always looked out for the father who is not well at the moment so I trust him. In fairness to him he looked at trying to sort QA but even if I got that sorted within 2 to 3 weeks cattle will probably have dropped back a good bit with the change in the weather.
    Am I as well off to let em off to hell
    .

    They will fall asunder if you don't fodder them at least. Meal feeding being preferable. Are the much over 30 months?


  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭FarmerDougal


    Anyone care to tell me what a u+3= 28 month old bullock 444kg dead would have come into last July roughly? Can remember selling him as a weanling very cheaply.

    2113 euro before deductions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    westlander wrote: »
    Hello lads,
    I've 2 over 30 month old bullocks to go. I guess mart is the best route. Both charolais/limo crosses - sandy coloured gents.

    550 Kgs for both at least.

    What would you accept if it was you selling them :)

    I'll give you 2.20 a kg this second at the 550kg! Going rate for overage would be less than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Anyone care to tell me what a u+3= 28 month old bullock 444kg dead would have come into last July roughly? Can remember selling him as a weanling very cheaply.

    At best a base of 4.10 at the time plus 24cent for the u+ then 12 cent quality assurance would leave €1980 or maybe I'm missing something.
    You will tell us what you got for him and what weight he was and when you sold him. Please do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    €2,069.04


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  • Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Duke92


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Lads not too well versed on factory prices
    Trying to sort out old lads cattle. Long story. Non QA cattle most of them over 30 month HEX and AAX.
    Just off the phone to the agent 3.80 on the grid with Moyvalley.Says he'll see if he can get a bit more.What exactly is "on the grid". Too lazy to look back through this thread !
    Agent has always looked out for the father who is not well at the moment so I trust him. In fairness to him he looked at trying to sort QA but even if I got that sorted within 2 to 3 weeks cattle will probably have dropped back a good bit with the change in the weather.
    Am I as well off to let em off to hell

    Would be worth getting quality assured if you could prob be worth another 20cent
    Plus the grading wouldn't be hectic in my valley but you don't have a lot of options with out it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    westlander wrote: »
    Hello lads,
    I've 2 over 30 month old bullocks to go. I guess mart is the best route. Both charolais/limo crosses - sandy coloured gents.

    550 Kgs for both at least.

    What would you accept if it was you selling them :)
    They are surely heavier than that at that age and breed? I'd be expecting them to be at least 100kg heavier even if they are off friesian cows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Helpmefarm


    1200


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    They are surely heavier than that at that age and breed? I'd be expecting them to be at least 100kg heavier even if they are off friesian cows.

    Butt out if it you!! I was onto a winner there. ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    They are surely heavier than that at that age and breed? I'd be expecting them to be at least 100kg heavier even if they are off friesian cows.

    At a poor return of 25kg per day at 30mts should be 750kg. All cattle should be making the 30per month mark at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    That's a bit of a silly statement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Willfarman wrote: »
    .

    They will fall asunder if you don't fodder them at least. Meal feeding being preferable. Are the much over 30 months?

    30 to 32 months.
    Going Sunday. They are in good order. So rather have them going right than holding on and having them go back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    30 to 32 months.
    Going Sunday. They are in good order. So rather have them going right than holding on and having them go back.

    Yor taking a hell of a walloping by not being quality assured and moving these type cattle on to kill mid summer well under 30 months.. But as you say you are where you are. I think your doing right.

    Will you buy back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Muckit wrote: »
    That's a bit of a silly statement.

    And why might that be?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    And why might that be?

    Well because ALL cattle won't do that. Breed, sex, breeding and feeding (land type and are you/are you not stuffing them with bag stuff). There's many factors to consider. You can't make general statements like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Muckit wrote: »
    Well because ALL cattle won't do that. Breed, sex, breeding and feeding (land type and are you/are you not stuffing them with bag stuff). There's many factors to consider. You can't make general statements like that.

    Fair point Muckit. I can only comment on what goes inside our stone walls.


  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    That told you clough.you are a tough seller?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cassidy2 wrote: »
    That told you clough.you are a tough seller?

    That's it sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    At best a base of 4.10 at the time plus 24cent for the u+ then 12 cent quality assurance would leave €1980 or maybe I'm missing something.
    You will tell us what you got for him and what weight he was and when you sold him. Please do.

    6 months, 250kg 650e. Fella that bought him is always on ours when I bring them to the mart, no wonder he stays coming back. Calf from the same cow this year and she's a half twin. CD8EC80B-4C79-48F8-8BCE-82200CF26496_zpslbelf4lr.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Hes a grand one.

    Don't worry about the buyer getting a twist. He gave it all back to you this year!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Hes a grand one.

    Don't worry about the buyer getting a twist. He gave it all back to you this year!

    I wouldn't begrudge anyone, everyone needs a twist out of them and a big difference in beef price in that timeframe too. He had a good twist out of him though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 cozzie


    I wouldn't begrudge anyone, everyone needs a twist out of them and a big difference in beef price in that timeframe too. He had a good twist out of him though!

    Do you think, allowing him say to be sold again he would have left about €1.90 a day to cover all costs. there would be over a €100 on interest alone taken off him


  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭huey1975


    cozzie wrote: »
    Do you think, allowing him say to be sold again he would have left about €1.90 a day to cover all costs. there would be over a €100 on interest alone taken off him

    Who are you borrowing your money off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 cozzie


    huey1975 wrote: »
    Who are you borrowing your money off?

    5.5% interest?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I wouldn't begrudge anyone, everyone needs a twist out of them and a big difference in beef price in that timeframe too. He had a good twist out of him though!

    Imagine how some lad with a few brood mares feels when a foal they bred and sold for small money wins a big race?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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