beef price tracker

epfff

No sign of the fog lifting here in the west any hope for me in the East or South


Lots of cattle round I'm told

Is it a ploy to push cattle off for Xmas kill instead of having them gone by the time it starts

barnaman

Rang few agents yesterday. Plenty cattle about and this weather keep them coming; take a week to get cattle in and €3.90 bullocks €4.05 heifers all in spec. Athleague offering only €4 for heifers!! Talking to friend in Galway what he got quouted for his heifers yesterday.

Willfarman

There has been a lot of cattle moved in the south east this week but next week will see the dregs of the cattle on the land. It will take a significant rise to get lads to look at heavy cattle they have in feeding. But as always lads IMO you should never let an animal over 30mths that a 3+ fat to look at if they qualify for the 12 cent..

barnaman

Mine are booked in for this day week; absolute last of the grass ones. Got a week in the shed; well 2 weeks by time go,.

Robson99

barnaman wrote: »

Rang few agents yesterday. Plenty cattle about and this weather keep them coming; take a week to get cattle in and €3.90 bullocks €4.05 heifers all in spec. Athleague offering only €4 for heifers!! Talking to friend in Galway what he got quouted for his heifers yesterday.

Where was the 4.05 for heifers to be got????. 4.00 in Athleague and 400kg max carcass ! So I'm told

epfff

Robson99 wrote: »

Where was the 4.05 for heifers to be got????. 4.00 in Athleague and 400kg max carcass ! So I'm told

Talking 380 to me for bulls
First time in while I have a bunch of 400kgs +

Feeding cows and bullocks outside not nice atm but in too deep to panic now

Thing that worries me is also don't want cows
Told to find another home for them if I wanted killed in next few weeks

Ah well thats the beef industry

Robson99

epfff wrote: »

Talking 380 to me for bulls
First time in while I have a bunch of 400kgs +

Feeding cows and bullocks outside not nice atm but in too deep to panic now

Thing that worries me is also don't want cows
Told to find another home for them if I wanted killed in next few weeks

Ah well thats the beef industry

Ballyhaunis normally better bet for cull cows

I can put up with a lot of the shyet the factories and godfather Larry goes on with but this max 400kg carcass in order to comply just busts my liathroidi.
You try to get them into as high as weight as possible to leave a profit on expensive stores and they penalise you when they feel like it.
Continental weanlings would want to be 200 a head less than what they are going on the current base price. I wonder how many will get out of sucklers if this happens??

barnaman

Roscrea for heifer price. Rarely send there can be hit and miss. Cow trade is terrible I heard. Lads read yhis weeks Farmers Weekly sicken you abour new light specs in uK.

rangler1

epfff wrote: »

Talking 380 to me for bulls
First time in while I have a bunch of 400kgs +

Feeding cows and bullocks outside not nice atm but in too deep to panic now

Thing that worries me is also don't want cows
Told to find another home for them if I wanted killed in next few weeks

Ah well thats the beef industry

See Cormac healy in the journal talking about 380kg as well for jan and claiming that they had given farmers 14mths to get their act in order, looks like they're serious

barnaman

Robson99 wrote: »

Ballyhaunis normally better bet for cull cows

I can put up with a lot of the shyet the factories and godfather Larry goes on with but this max 400kg carcass in order to comply just busts my liathroidi.
You try to get them into as high as weight as possible to leave a profit on expensive stores and they penalise you when they feel like it.
Continental weanlings would want to be 200 a head less than what they are going on the current base price. I wonder how many will get out of sucklers if this happens??

Iam in suckler to beef and neither is making any money. Continental cattle really need to be killed at 36 months as take longer to mature just look how long takes them to get horns, when we killed at 36 months killed out as us and es no bare R.

Willfarman

rangler1 wrote: »

See Cormac healy in the journal talking about 380kg as well for jan and claiming that they had given farmers 14mths to get their act in order, looks like they're serious

Cormac is a shark.. I wish we had him on our side!

barnaman

Read the Weekly about the 30c a kilo penalties for cattle over 415 kilos come into force 16 nov. Happy days!

Muckit

Robson99 wrote: »

Where was the 4.05 for heifers to be got????. 4.00 in Athleague and 400kg max carcass ! So I'm told

They are the bottom of the table for paying out for heifers

CloughCasey1

rangler1 wrote: »

See Cormac healy in the journal talking about 380kg as well for jan and claiming that they had given farmers 14mths to get their act in order, looks like they're serious

most continental types will be heavy enough at 24mts but will need extra high energy feed to put on a good fat score. More cost when ya can't finish off grass. I've said it before they will try and put a bigger squeeze on suckler farming.

Muckit

Who are they?

I said

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

most continental types will be heavy enough at 24mts but will need extra high energy feed to put on a good fat score. More cost when ya can't finish off grass. I've said it before they will try and put a bigger squeeze on suckler farming.

B/whiteheads is all that will be left

CloughCasey1

Muckit wrote: »

Who are they?

Meat processors

Willfarman

The gentleman finisher won't lose his gra for the hairy Char X sim. And the export job keeps a bottom in them. No fear Clough!

CloughCasey1

I said wrote: »

B/whiteheads is all that will be left

Not really. Just big well made cattle will obviously have to be slaughtered younger.

moll3

weighed my hefiers today,wh 20 months 4 of them 540kg in shed 3 weeks,on 1,5 kg of roaches super beef are they good enough to kill ?

Muckit

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Meat processors

How are they going g to put pressure on sucklers? It's there's gobsheens like me going out paying 810 and 20 for 260kg heifer calves.

Willfarman

moll3 wrote: »

weighed my hefiers today,wh 20 months 4 of them 540kg in shed 3 weeks,on 1,5 kg of roaches super beef are they good enough to kill ?

They are heavy enough if they are fat enough. Look between front legs for a full rounded brisket.

barnaman

You full time or pt Muck it?

CloughCasey1

Muckit wrote: »

How are they going g to put pressure on sucklers? It's there's gobsheens like me going out paying 810 and 20 for 260kg heifer calves.

Sure your happy at it. Well my point of view would be that if finishing under 380kg then you buy quite dairy bred stock cheaper and hold them to 27mts and get them to that KO weight easily.

Mad4simmental

barnaman wrote: »

Read the Weekly about the 30c a kilo penalties for cattle over 415 kilos come into force 16 nov. Happy days!

Plus the 0.12 QA I presume so that becomes €0.42 cut? Ffs, cut the stake in half buttercup.

But if numbers drop in the morning I can bring in a lad that will kill out at 550kg no worries.

Cassidy2

Willfarman wrote: »

I'd wait and see.. Weather is ****e and it's mid Nov. And there's no oversupply. Pick your day I'm told anyway. A lot of of cattle will be off the land to the shed or to the line this week and next. And if they go to the shed they are committed in the main to feed. I think there will be a little improvement..

Cassidy will be along shortly to say I'm talking bollocks and he's probably right!

Was very busy there.I said on this thread back in July sell sell sell.and certain people criticise me.but now I say don't panic.but everyone situation is different.

rangler1

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

most continental types will be heavy enough at 24mts but will need extra high energy feed to put on a good fat score. More cost when ya can't finish off grass. I've said it before they will try and put a bigger squeeze on suckler farming.

Yea. used to do it here, charolais out of Simmental cows, av 400kg at 22mths and heifers 30 - 40 kgs less at 20mths.....it can be done

CloughCasey1

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Was very busy there.I said on this thread back in July sell sell sell.and certain people criticise me.but now I say don't panic.but everyone situation is different.

In fairness to you cass you had it spot on.

Muckit

barnaman wrote: »

You full time or pt Muck it?

Part time and probably no time any time soon if l had sense.

Muckit

rangler1 wrote: »

Yea. used to do it here, charolais out of Simmental cows, av 400kg at 22mths and heifers 30 - 40 kgs less at 20mths.....it can be done

The ch x sim is a great animal. I'd say on your ground you had them into lumps of cattle in no time.

Blonde x Ch not bad cross either from my limited experience of them.

saranac1

Willfarman wrote: »

They are heavy enough if they are fat enough. Look between front legs for a full rounded brisket.

Any other signs

bogman_bass

saranac1 wrote: »

Any other signs

Cover of fat on the ribs and around the tail head

Willfarman

Tail head and ribs. On traditional breeds if the brisket is full then the they are fat enough I find. Tail head will be starting to round but if getting lumps your in bother. On continental you need to look at tail head and judge all in. On real good u grade heifers you need to look at ribs as well.

Robson99

Willfarman wrote: »

Tail head and ribs. On traditional breeds if the brisket is full then the they are fat enough I find. Tail head will be starting to round but if getting lumps your in bother. On continental you need to look at tail head and judge all in. On real good u grade heifers you need to look at ribs as well.

Always find good u grade continental heifers can take plenty of feeding without worrying about getting fat. Always try and get them to 4- here if possible as I believe you have near maximised weight gain at that stage.
Traditional breeds can get fat very quickly imo

mf240

Cattle tend to go up a grade if well finished too.

I know with plain friesans if you dont have plenty of flesh youll have lots of ps

Willfarman

mf240 wrote: »

Cattle tend to go up a grade if well finished too.

I know with plain friesans if you dont have plenty of flesh youll have lots of ps

Well a half grade! But yes you want a pillow over the tail of the friesians to get fair play on the grading. A lot of big under fleshed over 30 moth types appearing in marts in these parts over last month.. 635kg March 13 635 lads 1060. They same cattle were worth that last May? Worth a punt methinks if a lad had facilities.

bogman_bass

Willfarman wrote: »

Tail head and ribs. On traditional breeds if the brisket is full then the they are fat enough I find. Tail head will be starting to round but if getting lumps your in bother. On continental you need to look at tail head and judge all in. On real good u grade heifers you need to look at ribs as well.

I fine HE heifers can put fat on the ail head quicker than elsewhere. Often had one look like a 5 round the tailhead and come in as a 4- on the hook

Cassidy2

Well lads all the chat at weekend was there where pulling cows.did it happen

RobinBanks

Where is the best price for U+ plus cows at the min. I have 1 lim fit for killing and 1 blue a couple of weeks away. Both are up on 900kg. The last report I seen showed that ballyhaunis was quoting 3.70 and ashbourne 3.80.

Ballyhaunis is reasonably close to me but Ashbourne isn't. Wonder do they have any agents in north mayo.

whelan2

sent a few to factory yesterday, a 14 year old angus cow. A 24 month old pb angus heifer - had a peg leg and not suitable to breed with- and a 2 yo angus x bullock that never grew. Had 3 calls from factory yesterday evening, thought there was something wrong with one of them. They wanted to know if my dad was QA , he didnt bother anymore as he would be sending very few eligible animals to factory, so he is getting 3.90 rather than 4.00 for the heifer. she graded u. Will post up what they made when we get it. Sent an old fr cow last week that did the splits many times, straight from parlour, got 450 euro for her, better than having to pay the knackery

simx

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Well lads all the chat at weekend was there where pulling cows.did it happen

Surely did, 3.30 o&p cows now

tanko

simx wrote: »

Surely did, 3.30 o&p cows now

Heard 3.40 for R's, do you see any chance of an improvement in cow prices before Xmas?

simx

tanko wrote: »

Heard 3.40 for R's, do you see any chance of an improvement in cow prices before Xmas?

Better off in the mart than 3.40 for rs I'd say, maybe but mightn't be anything to hectic, lot of lads drying off now/weaning throwing cows at factories

orm0nd

RobinBanks wrote: »

Where is the best price for U+ plus cows at the min. I have 1 lim fit for killing and 1 blue a couple of weeks away. Both are up on 900kg. The last report I seen showed that ballyhaunis was quoting 3.70 and ashbourne 3.80.

Ballyhaunis is reasonably close to me but Ashbourne isn't. Wonder do they have any agents in north mayo.

saw a MO reg double in ashbourme a couple of times, ring the factory and ask

Cavanjack

Anything better than €3.90 and €4 to be got for steers and heifers?

dryan

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anything better than €3.90 and €4 to be got for steers and heifers?

have a few steers ready, quoted 3.90 with a cut over 420 kg carcass.
Midlands.

whelan2

aa heifer was 336kg graded u4 at 4.02e/kg 1351 euro
aa cow 352kg o4 3.1e/kg 1092 euro

barnaman

No, spoke 2 agents today prices holding this week and next. Cows trade completly dead cannot get culls in.

Cassidy2

barnaman wrote: »

No, spoke 2 agents today prices holding this week and next. Cows trade completly dead cannot get culls in.

Imo keep feeding cows till next year.the bad milk price is making a complete joke of the cow trade

tanko

Was in a mart yesterday, cull cow prices were through the floor. Heavy cows selling for 1.45 to 1.55 €/kg.