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Cassidy2

Any quotes for next week.staying the same around here

Hershall

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Any quotes for next week.staying the same around here

Not as fussy about weight or age of steers anyway. No shift on the quotes though!!!

Cassidy2

Hershall wrote: »

Not as fussy about weight or age of steers anyway. No shift on the quotes though!!!

Is there much cattle around.heard cattle in northern Ireland are getting scarce

restive

Hershall wrote: »

Not as fussy about weight or age of steers anyway. No shift on the quotes though!!!

I was told by liffey meats that the were offering 3.85 on the grid for bullocks up to 420kg but for bullocks over 420kg the were offering 3.70 flat price.

tismesoitis

I think that craic will become the norm. These heavier carcasses are not wanted unfortunately.

Hershall

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Is there much cattle around.heard cattle in northern Ireland are getting scarce

They're getting into enough of them at the moment anyway but not leaving them behind where possible. Fight your corner its no good but every little helps!

primary 2

i was talking to an agent last night,he rang me 3 90 on the grid for steers,age not a problem and no cuts on weight under 420kg, if i wanted to deal i would of probally got no weight limits and maybe 3 95,he usually leaves a bit of room to play around with

restive

primary 2 wrote: »

i was talking to an agent last night,he rang me 3 90 on the grid for steers,age not a problem and no cuts on weight under 420kg, if i wanted to deal i would of probally got no weight limits and maybe 3 95,he usually leaves a bit of room to play around with

What Factory does he represent?

primary 2

restive wrote: »

What Factory does he represent?

he usually buys for slaney

tommy5678

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/freisin-bullock/11225639 is he worth it

bogman_bass

he's near 3 year old but only looks about 350m- 400 kg. who would kill him for you?

Willfarman

3.90 to 420 kgs as long as under 36 months. slaney Liffey meats hacketstown, abp Waterford.

primary 2

Willfarman wrote: »

3.90 to 420 kgs as long as under 36 months. slaney Liffey meats hacketstown, abp Waterford.

what were you quoted last week? there seems to be a bit more of interest since christmas,do you think they might start to rise a bit?

Cassidy2

Willfarman wrote: »

3.90 to 420 kgs as long as under 36 months. slaney Liffey meats hacketstown, abp Waterford.

Any word of bulls.is there anymore than 3.90 and 3.80 to be got?

Willfarman

primary 2 wrote: »

what were you quoted last week? there seems to be a bit more of interest since christmas,do you think they might start to rise a bit?

Yes they will rise a bit I think but nothing dramatic and no way would I hold back fit cattle. Quotes are last week yes.

epfff

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Any word of bulls.is there anymore than 3.90 and 3.80 to be got?

Same here

Seems to be no problem getting them in atm
Will take the heavier ones any day now too but still cutting

As it goes on I think all predictions are just a shot in the dark for this year

Sheds well cleared here very cautious to replace as stores too dear

Willfarman

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Any word of bulls.is there anymore than 3.90 and 3.80 to be got?

I think that's the height of it cas. Not my forte but from anyone I've talked to the job is sluggish.

CloughCasey1

Willfarman wrote: »

I think that's the height of it cas. Not my forte but from anyone I've talked to the job is sluggish.

U16 or U24 mts lads?

primary 2

Willfarman wrote: »

Yes they will rise a bit I think but nothing dramatic and no way would I hold back fit cattle. Quotes are last week yes.

if they went up to maybe 4 or 4 05 base by the end of the month it wouldnt be to bad

Willfarman

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

U16 or U24 mts lads?

Under 24.

Willfarman

primary 2 wrote: »

if they went up to maybe 4 or 4 05 base by the end of the month it wouldnt be to bad

Yes it'd keep a bottom in the bucket at least.

Cassidy2

Willfarman wrote: »

Under 24.

Goodman clough
You are lucky you have a well paid job

Cassidy2

primary 2 wrote: »

if they went up to maybe 4 or 4 05 base by the end of the month it wouldnt be to bad

That's optimistic

primary 2

Cassidy2 wrote: »

That's optimistic

how do you see things going yourself?

epfff

Cassidy2 wrote: »

That's optimistic

Who was the hard seller here about a year and half ago that didn't sell that many but always got more than quotes?
It bugging me to know if they still managing it

restive

tommy5678 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/freisin-bullock/11225639 is he worth it

Would an animal like this put on weight if fed over the summer or has he reached his natural limit?

Willfarman

epfff wrote: »

Who was the hard seller here about a year and half ago that didn't sell that many but always got more than quotes?
It bugging me to know if they still managing it

It easy enough to spew ****e on this about getting pie in the sky but that's all it is.
The cartel is ,was ,
and will be the tail tail wagging the dog for the foreseeable future..

Cassidy2

primary 2 wrote: »

how do you see things going yourself?

I like to see things rising but if it does it will be small and slow.when cattle are fit Imo you have to kill them

CloughCasey1

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Goodman clough
You are lucky you have a well paid job

Your point being?

Bass Reeves

tommy5678 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/freisin-bullock/11225639 is he worth it

It is not so much is he worth it as is he worth the gamble. the gamble is can you get him to 300kgs DW by September with flesh on him. That means 600-630kgs LW. He may grow or he might flesh out. At 3.3/kg he would come into a thousand euro.

restive wrote: »

Would an animal like this put on weight if fed over the summer or has he reached his natural limit?

Friesians are funny animals they tend to grow when you least expect. Hard to gauge his weight but he could be anything from 350-420 kgs. If he was the upper end he is well worth it. At the lower end I might still chance him for grass. Only thing is he want to be well gone before next Christmas with all the young cattle that will come on stream.

It is unlikely there be a price rise before late April/May and might be June. The lads that were quietly getting 4.2 of a base during August and September put too many cattle into the shed. Along with young cattle coming fit off grass and put in shed in good condition loads of finished cattle around. It a case of suck em and see. As a lad said during the week to me ''what Larry give Larry takes away''. He is you friend today he piss in you tomorrow. Translated as he is you friend in August and screws during the winter. I taught all the big lad got contracts for the winter. They usually get a few cent more than the rest of us.

There was a load of fellas here that had good contacts with agents during the summer. They were able to forecast every price fall from late July on. These boys will surly be in the know about what is happening. 3.90-3.95 is the base. It will remain more or less at that unless Larry feels sorry for you. No processor is interested in bulls unless cattle are scarce. Donegal Meats might be paying a bit more than the average.

As a gambling man I say the base will be over 4.25 in July like last year. Then is the time to have cattle.

Bass Reeves

tommy5678 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/freisin-bullock/11225639 is he worth it

Somebody thinks he is he was sold yesterday before midday. Was going to head with the small box behind the van after work. You can't win them all.

tanko

Any ideas what could be got for a couple of 34 month old non QA R grade LimX heifers approx 330kgs DW?

epfff

tanko wrote: »

Any ideas what could be got for a couple of 34 month old non QA R grade LimX heifers approx 330kgs DW?

Very insulted
Is first answer I can think of

Week after Xmas I heard of aax heifers 27 months getting 360
Heard same price for u grade bullocks about 34 months (not as reliable)
Very hard round here to get anywhere to entertain you with them

Bass Reeves

tanko wrote: »

Any ideas what could be got for a couple of 34 month old non QA R grade LimX heifers approx 330kgs DW?

epfff wrote: »

Very insulted
Is first answer I can think of

Week after Xmas I heard of aax heifers 27 months getting 360
Heard same price for u grade bullocks about 34 months (not as reliable)
Very hard round here to get anywhere to entertain you with them

No issue down my way base price paid on all cattle under 36 months. It is a ABP plant. Moved a few before Christmas got the base of 3.9/kg. All on the load were over 30 months and under 36. They have stopped the 3 euro QA that you were getting

epfff

Bass Reeves wrote: »

No issue down my way base price paid on all cattle under 36 months. It is a ABP plant. Moved a few before Christmas got the base of 3.9/kg. All on the load were over 30 months and under 36. They have stopped the 3 euro QA that you were getting

Sorry I was thinking from non QA herd

No problems here either once herd is qa

Bass Reeves

Sorry I see they are not QA most factory's want only QA stock when there are plenty around.

Mart might be worth a gamble in 4-6 weeks time some lad might take a punt on them for grass. If they were mine I let them to grass as early as possible and sell In July off grass if they will carry the weight and get QA sorted in the meantime.

Jb1989

Tho on a side note, is there a cut off limit of 30 months on heifers that's going to a butcher? Something to do with the back bone over 30 months affecting the meat in someway,?

I kill Bulls mostly so rarely affected with overage heifers

bogman_bass

Jb1989 wrote: »

Tho on a side note, is there a cut off limit of 30 months on heifers that's going to a butcher? Something to do with the back bone over 30 months affecting the meat in someway,?

I kill Bulls mostly so rarely affected with overage heifers

Butchers dont want them that age because of size more than anything. Local butcher kills his own and aims for 280-300kg dead

Bass Reeves

bogman_bass wrote: »

Butchers dont want them that age because of size more than anything. Local butcher kills his own and aims for 280-300kg dead

Most butchers want heifers in the 220-240kg range, they would prefer a 200kg DW animal rather than a 250 kg one. Some abbatoirs near large towns or city's will take heavier cattle and even smaller framed bullocks.

Miname

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Most butchers want heifers in the 220-240kg range, they would prefer a 200kg DW animal rather than a 250 kg one. Some abbatoirs near large towns or city's will take heavier cattle and even smaller framed bullocks.

Around me the butchers want them around 300.

Kovu

R cows- 330/340 quoted by agent this morning. Sound about right?

tanko

Kovu wrote: »

R cows- 330/340 quoted by agent this morning. Sound about right?

I heard 335 for R grade cows during the week, hopefully they'll rise a bit soon.
Roscrea mart looks like a good place for heavy U grade cows according to the Journal.
Are yours ready to go?

Kovu

tanko wrote: »

I heard 335 for R grade cows during the week, hopefully they'll rise a bit soon.
Roscrea mart looks like a good place for heavy U grade cows according to the Journal.
Are yours ready to go?

Yea, won't put more on without running to fat. One cow is hard as a rock with muscle, not a quiver of fat to be seen. I'll get a pic of them before they go and see if yiz are good at guessing how they KO.

Roscrea cows were young though, 13 and 11 were they not? Cow-heifers really.

tanko

Kovu wrote: »

Yea, won't put more on without running to fat. One cow is hard as a rock with muscle, not a quiver of fat to be seen. I'll get a pic of them before they go and see if yiz are good at guessing how they KO.

Roscrea cows were young though, 13 and 11 were they not? Cow-heifers really.

True, those cows are young but they're still cows. It shows what cows can make tho. The right mart on a good day is still probably better than the factory.
I remember bringing an AA x HE cow to the factory years ago, she was 5+ for fat. I didn't think that was possible, she looked more like a hippo than a cow.

blue5000

Kovu wrote: »

R cows- 330/340 quoted by agent this morning. Sound about right?

What would it drop to for O grade?

Kovu

blue5000 wrote: »

What would it drop to for O grade?

I think around 3.20, he won't be taking them til Tues/Wed so I'll know for sure then.

Tanko I know what you mean but I prefer letting them off to die quick than be beat round a mart and up a lorry and round a shed for another while.
Looking at them this evening and the R one will KO well, about 55% at a guess, the other will be less than 50.

Cassidy2

Kovu wrote: »

I think around 3.20, he won't be taking them til Tues/Wed so I'll know for sure then.

Tanko I know what you mean but I prefer letting them off to die quick than be beat round a mart and up a lorry and round a shed for another while.
Looking at them this evening and the R one will KO well, about 55% at a guess, the other will be less than 50.

Not a hope of a r grade cow killing out at 55%.

Kovu

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Not a hope of a r grade cow killing out at 55%.

Well prob not 55% but the higher end of the dry cow KO scale for sure!

Base price

Kovu wrote: »

R cows- 330/340 quoted by agent this morning. Sound about right?

Was talking to a friend New Years Eve, who specialises in feeding cows and he was getting 3.40 for a double of R's and he was not a happy camper. He reckoned that he needed 3.60 to cover his costs before any penny profit.
I always prefer to send cattle to the factory and take my chances. In a way it affirms my judgement of stock be it good or bad - you learn by your mistakes.
Also the fact that most marts are now inundated and taken over by dealers who put the hand in for their turn at my expense :mad:

Willfarman

The are bringing a rob in comparison to plain friesian bullocks.. A tweak of the machine has the majority grading p+ @ 3.50 to 3.60 a kilo.