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adne

nhg wrote: »

Sent a few bullocks to dawn earlier in the week, base €3.90 - only one overweight (450kg) got €3.90 for him and bb bonus on the rest.

Did you agree the 3.90 flat beforehand on any carcus over 400

Bass Reeves

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was talking to a guy this week that finishes a lot of different types and he said ya, hitting anything over 400Kg. Forget how much. As he says, too many cattle around. They can afford to be fussy.

This is the real issue too many lads finishing too many cattle over the winter. It has now started to be an issue that we are finishing more cattle during the winter than we do during the summer. Kill is higher at present that for most of June-November.

Lads think profibility is about chasing numbers. Had this discussion during the week with a lad that delivered a few bullocks for me. He was at me that I was storing too heavy cattle, That I should polish them off, slaughter them and buy replacments. Some of these are plain fresians that would have gone over 36 months. I think they will leave more money slaughtering them off grass in June/July. \But doctors differ and patients die.

patsy_mccabe

Bass Reeves wrote: »

This is the real issue too many lads finishing too many cattle over the winter. It has now started to be an issue that we are finishing more cattle during the winter than we do during the summer. Kill is higher at present that for most of June-November.

Well, when you think about it, with most of the calves in the country born within a few weeks in the spring and factories putting an age limit on things, what else is going to happen.

Bass Reeves

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Well, when you think about it, with most of the calves in the country born within a few weeks in the spring and factories putting an age limit on things, what else is going to happen.

Age is not the omly issue. Lots of lads answer to lower margins is to increase numbers, this in turn reduces margin. Last week we killed over 33K cattle generally taht is an autumn kill figure. Lads speaking to me was on that I was wasting a pen storing cattle over the winter. My thinking is that there is no point fattening cattle over the winter if there is no margin.

It is like a drug with lads to turn over numbers, a lot of these cattle are leaving no margin. Lads need to step back and look at the system.

simx

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was talking to a guy this week that finishes a lot of different types and he said ya, hitting anything over 400Kg. Forget how much. As he says, too many cattle around. They can afford to be fussy.

10c cut

patsy_mccabe

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Age is not the omly issue. Lots of lads answer to lower margins is to increase numbers, this in turn reduces margin. Last week we killed over 33K cattle generally taht is an autumn kill figure. Lads speaking to me was on that I was wasting a pen storing cattle over the winter. My thinking is that there is no point fattening cattle over the winter if there is no margin.

It is like a drug with lads to turn over numbers, a lot of these cattle are leaving no margin. Lads need to step back and look at the system.

True, 6 months from now, the opposite is going to happen. Cattle will be either too young or too old. Factories will have no option but to pay well for the over age cattle.

blue5000

Anyone selling bulls between 16-24 months? What are prices like?

Milked out

Anyone slaughter cows recently, dairy culls and have prices?

patsy_mccabe

I heard from a 'well informed' source that there is a large finishing unit being built in Tipp at the moment to handle 2,500 cattle. The plan is to supply a certain factory on a needs be basis. Strong links to a concrete company. Plans in place for a similar sized one in the near future too.

Cavanjack

Things look fairly steady at the minute. The kill is well up on last year and factories seem keen for stock.

cute geoge

I got €3.30 flat price for o and p grade cows this week down in south west after a bit of haggling

simx

cute geoge wrote: »

I got €3.30 flat price for o and p grade cows this week down in south west after a bit of haggling

Sounds ok to me

barnaman

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I heard from a 'well informed' source that there is a large finishing unit being built in Tipp at the moment to handle 2,500 cattle. The plan is to supply a certain factory on a needs be basis. Strong links to a concrete company. Plans in place for a similar sized one in the near future too.

There is already fair few lads in Tipp killing large numbers. Lad outside Roscrea killing 50 a week and others up with him. Killed cows and bulls (18 to 19 months) at 3.40 flat R grade 2 weeks back.

freedominacup

barnaman wrote: »

There is already fair few lads in Tipp killing large numbers. Lad outside Roscrea killing 50 a week and others up with him. Killed cows and bulls (18 to 19 months) at 3.40 flat R grade 2 weeks back.

I don't think any large finisher is killing only his own cattle any more.

epfff

freedominacup wrote: »

I don't think any large finisher is killing only his own cattle any more.

Yep afaics it's becoming a tEaM sport
You still need to be very careful there is always a lad / s on the team that use a I in the spelling and one member usually owns the ball ;-)

tismesoitis

Killed a few bulls this week. U16 under 400kgs 385 on grid. One 19 mth old used as a teaser last season 385 for u grade. Told he'd be 375 for R.

tanko

Anyone know what R grade cows are making now?

CHOPS01

5 overage bullocks here. 3 Hex and 2 Chx.
What they likely to get anyone know. Would I ad be any better off to hold onto them for another 6 weeks

Bass Reeves

CHOPS01 wrote: »

5 overage bullocks here. 3 Hex and 2 Chx.
What they likely to get anyone know. Would I ad be any better off to hold onto them for another 6 weeks

What weight are they

CHOPS01

Bass Reeves wrote: »

What weight are they

They are left overs from a load last Nov. Going by that lot I reckon they are 670 - 700 kg. One lad possibly a shake more

Bass Reeves

CHOPS01 wrote: »

They are left overs from a load last Nov. Going by that lot I reckon they are 670 - 700 kg. One lad possibly a shake more

Hard to see a rise before April ( and that may be optimistic.). If they were lighter I would grass them if you had land that would take them in mid March. I think that cattle will be really scarce for July and August. TBH if they are finished I would let them off but the truth is replacements are really scarce.

Cassidy2

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Hard to see a rise before April ( and that may be optimistic.). If they were lighter I would grass them if you had land that would take them in mid March. I think that cattle will be really scarce for July and August. TBH if they are finished I would let them off but the truth is replacements are really scarce.

Money will be scarce before cattle

Bass Reeves

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Money will be scarce before cattle

Plenty of 2015 cattle around but these will not finish until end of the year. Not a lot of 2014 cattle that will finish finish from June until then. It will be similar to last year I say with a strong price during the summer.

Willfarman

Cheap oil never results in deer beef or anything else.. The job won't be as good as last year in mid June July but it will be the time to aim for as a rule as opposed to the backend of the year.

Gman1987

Any update on prices? any sign of it picking up at all?

Killing Bulls here at the moment but we are just getting €3.90 for U's, €3.8 for R's and €3.70 for 0's. Mixture of continentals and Freisians. They are trying to implement a cut of €0.20/kg for any animals over 420kg.

Had a lad in the yard offering us €2.20/kg flat liveweight for finished continental bulls and nearly finished continental heifers. Bit to low I think as the majority will kill out U= and heifers would get quality assurance on the grid.

Speaking to a guy I know well the other day, very large farmer who finishes mostly bullocks, he has not killed an animal on the grid yet, flat price only. It would be nice to be that big that the factory would agree to that in order to get the cattle!! To be fair, he is sending all his cattle around 80 miles to be killed.

Bass Reeves

Ger1987 wrote: »

Any update on prices? any sign of it picking up at all?

Killing Bulls here at the moment but we are just getting €3.90 for U's, €3.8 for R's and €3.70 for 0's. Mixture of continentals and Freisians. They are trying to implement a cut of €0.20/kg for any animals over 420kg.

Had a lad in the yard offering us €2.20/kg flat liveweight for finished continental bulls and nearly finished continental heifers. Bit to low I think as the majority will kill out U= and heifers would get quality assurance on the grid.

Speaking to a guy I know well the other day, very large farmer who finishes mostly bullocks, he has not killed an animal on the grid yet, flat price only. It would be nice to be that big that the factory would agree to that in order to get the cattle!! To be fair, he is sending all his cattle around 80 miles to be killed.

Kildare???

davidk1394

Sent bulls off Thursday. €3.75 flat rate. Should be getting the kill sheet tomorrow

Gman1987

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Kildare???

Kepak

dryan

any update on the Steer prices these days?

Cavanjack

dryan wrote: »

any update on the Steer prices these days?

3.90base. Hasn't moved much in any direction since October.

danjoe

Looking to move a Lim stock bull soon,was quoted 2.80 today,any other better quotes around? Tia

Never wrestle with pigs

danjoe wrote: »

Looking to move a Lim stock bull soon,was quoted 2.80 today,any other better quotes around? Tia

Roscrea is usually the best place for those boys.

blue5000

Ger1987 wrote: »

Any update on prices? any sign of it picking up at all?

Killing Bulls here at the moment but we are just getting €3.90 for U's, €3.8 for R's and €3.70 for 0's. Mixture of continentals and Freisians. They are trying to implement a cut of €0.20/kg for any animals over 420kg.

Had a lad in the yard offering us €2.20/kg flat liveweight for finished continental bulls and nearly finished continental heifers. Bit to low I think as the majority will kill out U= and heifers would get quality assurance on the grid.

Speaking to a guy I know well the other day, very large farmer who finishes mostly bullocks, he has not killed an animal on the grid yet, flat price only. It would be nice to be that big that the factory would agree to that in order to get the cattle!! To be fair, he is sending all his cattle around 80 miles to be killed.

Where were they headed to and were they fussy about weights? PM me if you prefer.

Gman1987

blue5000 wrote: »

Where were they headed to and were they fussy about weights? PM me if you prefer.

Heading for Kildare up near the M4. No issue with weights.

Bass Reeves

According to todays FI prices are starting to rise. 4.05/kg beginning to be available for heifers and tops reported of 4.09. Also processors doing deals on over 36 month cattle. It is a long road without a turn

On the negative side it seems they are splitting the O/P bull grades.

blue5000

Anybody got quotes this week?

dryan

sent a few overage bullocks this morning - 3.90 base - midlands

charolais0153

Sent a 2 yo heifer this morning 4.00 base on the grid

CloughCasey1

Chx bought as suck. 15 mts 6 days. 330kg dw 3.85 base plus qa & 6c on grid. R+ 2+.

I said

Sent some this am €3.95 base +QA and bonus 4.13 R+3

CloughCasey1

I said wrote: »

Sent some this am €3.95 base +QA and bonus 4.13 R+3

Any idea of weights yet? What age stock? Mine went to north tipp!

I said

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Any idea of weights yet? What age stock? Mine went to north tipp!

Pm sent

dryan

I said wrote: »

Sent some this am €3.95 base +QA and bonus 4.13 R+3

Heifers/bullocks/bulls?

Robson99

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Chx bought as suck. 15 mts 6 days. 330kg dw 3.85 base plus qa & 6c on grid. R+ 2+.

Would it not have paid to feed him for another 3 weeks?

I said

dryan wrote: »

Heifers/bullocks/bulls?

Bullocks

CloughCasey1

Robson99 wrote: »

Would it not have paid to feed him for another 3 weeks?

Prob would have been another 30quid in it I guess. Same animal could hardly walk last Sept. Hurt his back and thought he wouldn't get out of it. He started to get very boisterous last week buck leping and racing around the pin so for fear of him getting hurt again I cut losses.

Cassidy2

Beef getting a bit scared.anyone else hear anything

fepper

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Beef getting a bit scared.anyone else hear anything

Did you mean SCARCE.

cute geoge

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Beef getting a bit scared.anyone else hear anything

That is not the story down in south west anyway ,i had cows booked in this morning and was put off for another week!!!

CHOPS01

5 well overage bullocks went yesterday. Agent said hopefully get 3.85 but might have to take 3.80