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Grandparents old car - What would you do?

  • 25-01-2012 4:55am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭


    Hi Everyone

    My grandmother stopped driving last June aged 90 and her car has been parked in the garage ever since. The question is what to do with the car.

    1992 Nissan Primera 1.6 petrol Saloon. Was bought brand new. Has a lot of the old tax discs/ sales invoice, main dealer service history. It has only 78,000 miles and only done about 5,000 in the last 10 years. Was always mostly kept in the garage where it now lies. NCT expired Tax and Insurance. It has no rust whatsover and the inside is as new. Have taken it out and a few times since June to start it up on the driveway and wash it etc, starts every time. Would need about €500 spent on it to nct, new tyres, tax, service to put it on the road again

    My family of uncle/aunts are not into cars at all and only see it as a 20 year old piece of Junk. They say its taken up room in the garage and were actually going to pay for someone to take it away and scrap it :(.

    I would love to take it and enjoy it in a few years when iam older (iam 26) only that it would be left outside in the rain. I know its not the most desirable old car, but surely a 1 owner car like this with all receipts etc is worth more than scrap.

    Id say it will stay in the garage till summer at least when lawnmower has to be taken out etc..

    What would you do/suggest?

    Also can you get vintage type tax/insurance for a car this old that i would only drive say on a sunday. I have owned a vintage car before that had vintage tax/ins but it was a 1970 beetle.

    Thanks for help..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    You would get classic insurance it being 20 years old. Also it being an early Primera it would be fairly scarce. It wouldnt be worth a huge amount, but if you are selling let me know. Post up some pics if you could.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    i get a perverse kick out of driving my 22 year old piece of junk...I'd say keep it if you can and use it, if not sell it to someone who will care for it (beware the banger racers...) Carchy would be a great custodian for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭si_guru


    corktina wrote: »
    i get a perverse kick out of driving my 22 year old piece of junk...I'd say keep it if you can and use it, if not sell it to someone who will care for it (beware the banger racers...) Carchy would be a great custodian for it.

    LOL... only as it is not a Punto!

    I agree though... 5 more years and it will be rarer than an E-type... if it isn't already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    si_guru wrote: »
    LOL... only as it is not a Punto!.

    Or an Almera at the moment, you haven't seen that one have you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    I bought a 99 323f for beer money last week, it was heading for the crusher, &50 quid of parts later it's ready for the test, I sold the van and intend to use the car as a daily from now on. There's loads of stuff out there to be had like that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭bookerboy


    Put a ballpark price on it here.Don't give it away,it could be worth a few quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭The Internet Explorer


    Wouldn't be bothered make coherent post. Will just use bunch of words to get point across.

    Get car cover. Keep car. You know what you have to to. OP says it all. Keep car. Gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Its a good make and has had no hardship so many many years motoring left in it
    if i were you id keep it as its also a piece of your family history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Family history is nice to have. Just dont let it get ratty and keep it original. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    Thanks for your replys everyone. Yeah thats why i would like to keep it. I would definitely keep original. It still has all the original stuff bar one hubcap, which i think il get on ebay. Its a good car. max speed was ever about 40mph in the last 11 years @ an average of 6 miles everytime it was taken out

    Would be nice to keep it as family history, as the day my grandparents got it, it was also my communion and they drove me to the church in it as proud as.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,809 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Carson10 wrote: »
    Thanks for your replys everyone. Yeah thats why i would like to keep it. I would definitely keep original. It still has all the original stuff bar one hubcap, which i think il get on ebay. Its a good car. max speed was ever about 40mph in the last 11 years @ an average of 6 miles everytime it was taken out

    Would be nice to keep it as family history, as the day my grandparents got it, it was also my communion and they drove me to the church in it as proud as.

    No question, keep it, and keep it standard. In years to come, you'll be glad you did.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    galwaytt wrote: »
    No question, keep it, and keep it standard. In years to come, you'll be glad you did.

    Yep. It's only an old car now but it will become better with age. I'd like to see it sometime, original untouched stuff is great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    Carson10 wrote: »
    Its a good car. max speed was ever about 40mph in the last 11 years @ an average of 6 miles everytime it was taken out

    Well that won't have done it much good,but nothing that a good blast down the motorway won't sort:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    Yep. It's only an old car now but it will become better with age. I'd like to see it sometime, original untouched stuff is great.

    sure thing. Never actually got any pictures of it. Mite take some of it next week and post them up. Always mean to take one of my Nan standing beside it cos she was the last driver and its her car, for family history sake.

    Already found on ebay an identical match for the missing hubcap..:) in UK for about 15pound posted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Carson10 wrote: »
    sure thing. Never actually got any pictures of it. Mite take some of it next week and post them up. Always mean to take one of my Nan standing beside it cos she was the last driver and its her car, for family history sake.

    Already found on ebay an identical match for the missing hubcap..:) in UK for about 15pound posted

    See, you are already getting into the spirit of it!
    Pics would be good, we like pics on here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,881 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    With €500 needed spending to get it going again, the car has negative economic value unless scrapped. I owned one of them and it was nothing to write home about but the spec was very good (UK import) and the handling was better than any other similar Japanese car of that time.

    That said, worth is not all about money. You should keep it for sentimental value alone :)

    And if you realistically can't mind the car yourself, you really should consider giving it away to a good home!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    Hang onto it. A car like that is worth more to have than to sell if you know what I mean. Also, it seems to have a sentimental value for you.

    I was in a similiar position and sold a car which I since regret.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭YBTurbo


    Keep it!

    They are really rare (Can't remember when I last seen one)

    Be different at shows to the Granadas/Sierras/Cavaliers.



    Ohh and pics :cool:


    ETA: If you want to sell.... I mite just be interested in it.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Carson10 wrote: »
    .................

    I would love to take it and enjoy it in a few years when iam older (iam 26) only that it would be left outside in the rain. ...............


    Why can't you take it now, unless you meant to type 16 rather than 26?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Why can't you take it now, unless you meant to type 16 rather than 26?

    no not 16, 26 is right. :D Have a garage at home but my dad wont want it there. Id say i will probably take it soon and let it keep me busy. Think id be happy even if i was to NCT/tax, valet/polish replace a few things and drive it every now and again for a while. Mite actually go to the Nissan garage where it was bought as its old skool and see if they have any, tax disc holders/ window stickers from 90s. It ust to have the original dealer sticker on the back window and another one about nissan 100,000km warranty, but my uncle tore them off when my grandad passed away, cos he never liked the garage wheres its out off and said there gettin free advertising :confused::rolleyes:

    I will keep ye updated on my progress.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    ok so i took the car last week and gave it a full valet. its going for the NCT in the morning. I found the old nct sheet, and has only done 900 mile since nov 09. I know it will fail on tyres, but just want to run it throu and get a list of all small bits that need doing and see if its worth spending the money on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,881 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    G'luck with the test and keep us posted :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Yes as above poster, good luck with the nct what a fab bit of history for you,
    keep it.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    best of luck...I'm sure it would be of interest at a show, many people would rememeber these and they've all been bangered or scrappped by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    I assume its the model like so, and yeah they are rare now.A colleague at work had a 96 one until it failed the NCT on too many things I think.He now has an 01 model.


    http://img1.hyperinzerce.cz/x-cz/inz/2639/2639883-nissan-primera-2-0-slx-1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    done NCT yesterday! failed as i knew it would, becasue had not done anyting to prepare for it.

    Needs 2 new front tyres and 2 rear brake hose pipes as they were aged not worn.

    passed fine on emissions despite it lying in the garage since last year :)

    I reckon all the work should cost about €200? not bad considering age. I thought it would need a lot more spent on it.

    Here are some pictures after i gave it a valet. Going to wax/bumper polish etc soon.

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    what do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    car looks good - but the view from your house looks seriously good!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    thats a fine result and a fine car (for a Nissan :D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    Ford, Toyota, Nissan etc, hardly going to set the heart racing:), but it would have been an absolute crime and a shame to scrap that car, glad you didn't because its really immaculate.Well done.Fair play for the pics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,809 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    jimmyw wrote: »
    Ford, Toyota, Nissan etc, hardly going to set the heart racing:), but it would have been an absolute crime and a shame to scrap that car, glad you didn't because its really immaculate.Well done.Fair play for the pics.

    +1. I don't care what badge that car wears, it looks great, and would be a crime to wreck it. For 200 you have the bargain of a lifetime, tbh, and if you are half as good as your Grandad at minding it, you're laughin.' The ultimate Bangernomics car. FREE car, cheap fix AND immaculate ! :D

    Win-Win-Win all day, methinks !

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭lastsaturday


    jeez, that is a classic grandparents find... a classic for some, a banger for others..

    my 92 year old granny still drives her immaculate 1987 beige nissan sentra (sunny, i think), in south africa.. matching Venetian blind in the back window as well.

    unfortunately my dad has a 2010 skoda fabia, which i dont think my kids will appreciate as a classic, even when he pops off..

    just keep the car. As a second car, learner car for your kids, etc, it's worth more to you than anyone else...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Bitten & Hisses


    Well done on saving it, that model Primera is not a common sight anymore, especially in such original condition. My brother briefly had a 2.0 SLX in 1994, great car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    Was there a post(s) deleted on here? I got a post in my email, but its not here:confused:.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    Great car, great news that you only need a few minor things to put it on the road. €200 wouldn't go far on a modern car with diagnostics etc !

    Post more photos, interior, engine etc :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 massey168


    Carson10 wrote: »
    Would be nice to keep it as family history, as the day my grandparents got it, it was also my communion and they drove me to the church in it as proud as.

    Wow, just wow. Thats a classic car deam right there. What I would not give to own the new car that drove me to my first commuinion 30+ years ago. No amount of money could ever buy a memory and story like that, you've got to preserve that car if you can, for as long as you can. For you, it's actually a personal time machine and direct link to that never to be repeated past. I've seen the photos, she's a nice origional well kept car, a real beauty. Best of luck with her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,881 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    jimmyw wrote: »
    Was there a post(s) deleted on here?

    Yes there was. A user posted a post and then deleted it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    :confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    Here are some more pictures of the car and also the interior that you have asked for.
    Work so far:
    Bumper restore - black to black
    Inside Valet
    Exterior Polish
    New Number Plates. The Orig ones were a bit faded and the one on the front had seen 20 years of parking dungs so i decided to get two fresh plates. I found some of the old tax and NCT disks in the glovebox and think the older ones are in a folder in my Grans house.

    More work to be done..
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    Wow! what a superb condition, any chance of an engine pic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    Absolutely amazing car, the tax disc photo is classic!

    I know if I owned that car that money could not buy the smile I would have driving it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Excellent stuff. Keep an eye out for Primeras of a similar age and i bet it will be ages before you come across one. Cars like this will be rarer than Cortinas in years to come.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    I see it has a 100,000 mile warranty so you are good for another 20,000 miles.
    I wonder would a Nissan dealer still honour it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    yourpics wrote: »
    I see it has a 100,000 mile warranty so you are good for another 20,000 miles.
    I wonder would a Nissan dealer still honour it!

    LOL.. The Nissan Garage that my grandparents bought it in closed down last month in Sligo. It still has the original mudflaps on it :) wouldnt mind calling over to the garage and asking if they have any old stickers, tax disc holders from the 90's era. The Garage owner only lives next door to the premises. As long as i have the car, its going to be kept original.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    yourpics wrote: »
    Absolutely amazing car, the tax disc photo is classic!

    Thats only the tax discs for the last 10 Years. I know the rest of the tax discs from new are in my Grans house in a folder somewhere. My grandad kept them in a photo album along with the insurance discs and stuff. Il get them soon. Just have to call over for more Tea:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    Excellent stuff. Keep an eye out for Primeras of a similar age and i bet it will be ages before you come across one. Cars like this will be rarer than Cortinas in years to come.

    Thank you. have to say iam enjoying the feedback. Its making me keep the car. The rest of the family are puzzled as to why i want 'that old thing'. Havent seen any of these primeras around sligo in a while. I would say most of them were scrapped. I think the boot spoiler was the equivalent of having sat nav..LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,865 ✭✭✭squonk


    Well done OP! I haven't seen one of those in a long time. I certainly haven't seen on in such good condition. The car is a great colour too. I saw an 88 Bluebird a few months ago outside a neighbour's house. It was really impressive to see as it was in good nick. Yours is the exact same, just very impressive to see. Keep up the good work! These are real rarities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Is that an aftermarket manual choke?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Is that an aftermarket manual choke?

    Yes that choke was fitted to the car a few years ago as it kept cutting out at low revs. Mainly for safety cos my gran was nearly 90 driving the car and it never warmed up or went over 30 miles an hour. so what happened was when she was driving it, stopping at lights or in town etc, it would cut out, and then it the engine would flood cos it kept getting restarted. Id say the main reason was it never got a good run. about 500 miles a year in the last 10 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Carson10


    Well lads, just an update on the Primera as i was gratefull for your earlier comments.

    The car is now on the road: NCT'd 05/13 Taxed: 07/12 Insured: 04/13..I was lucky to get the car Insured with FBD as a second car classic Insurance (20yr old Car). I had to join the IVS Irish Vintage Society E25. Heres the best bit, the cheap classic insurance was E133, i had a voucher for FBD for E35 so i got the car insured for a full year for E98euro, yes 98 euro :D

    The overall spend on taking the car from my grans garage to on the road was about E550 all in

    NCT 55
    Retest 28
    Repairs 70
    2 new front tyres 120
    Tax 135
    Insurance 98
    W/Blades 20

    My gran was delighted to see me taking the car and i now keep it in the Garage at home taking it out for a spin about twice a week.

    I will prob put it up for Sale in a month on Donedeal as being really honest it does nothing for me. Id have preferred if it was a 92 Golf or Fiesta. If i sell it, family history aside, i will have been happy to know i saved it from being scrapped put up a few 100 miles on it.

    Any1 no how much i would sell it for or would there be any interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,945 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Fair play to you you started something and saw it through to the finish,good one for your CV.

    You might be better to hang on until terenure show in June or July(or similar Local Show to get a premium for it rather than deal with a load of muppets on Donedeal offering a 100 euro for it. Maybe try a few nissan Dealers with it first.


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