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Looking Like Savage Cuts at WRH

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    Finnbar01 wrote: »
    Let's get rid of the arts, sport and tourism department (or whatever it calls itself) and its associated quislings for a start.

    Are you seriously trying to tell me that tourism would cease to exist because we don't have a quango to try and 'manage' it?

    You're having a laugh.

    Finally something specific.

    Yep, lets get rid of Fáilte Ireland. We don't need to promote things like the Tall Ships Race, these things happen by themselves. We can get rid of all the tourist offices around the country, cease any further development of the Viking Quarter.

    The tourists can just figure it all out for themselves.

    An we certainly don't need the arts. Imagine all those jobs created due to the Irish Film Board, they'd be better off on the dole than creating jobs and generating taxes for the state.

    And as for sport, who needs sport in Ireland when you can stay at home and watch English soccer on a 42 inch TV. Unfortunately though, as we are doing this to help WRH, they will have to deal with the increases in obesity too.

    The alternative would be to increase taxes, but its better to do away with one of the departments to the fore in job creation in Waterford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    dayshah wrote: »
    Finally something specific.

    Yep, lets get rid of Fáilte Ireland. We don't need to promote things like the Tall Ships Race, these things happen by themselves. We can get rid of all the tourist offices around the country, cease any further development of the Viking Quarter.

    The tourists can just figure it all out for themselves.

    An we certainly don't need the arts. Imagine all those jobs created due to the Irish Film Board, they'd be better off on the dole than creating jobs and generating taxes for the state.

    And as for sport, who needs sport in Ireland when you can stay at home and watch English soccer on a 42 inch TV. Unfortunately though, as we are doing this to help WRH, they will have to deal with the increases in obesity too.

    The alternative would be to increase taxes, but its better to do away with one of the departments to the fore in job creation in Waterford.

    Absolute rubbish.

    You're thinking is fallacious. As if we need government to support all those things.

    Are you trying to tell me that tourism, art, sport etc wouldn't exist without these quangos?

    If these quangos are so great why not double, no triple their budgets in that case to create more jobs?

    You are of the belief that nothing would exist without government.


  • Registered Users Posts: 752 ✭✭✭jayboi


    dayshah wrote: »
    You said they won't cut quangos because they are full of political appointees (which makes no sense as it was the last government did the vast majority of appointments). Then you say they won't cut quangos because they can potentially fill them with their own appointees, and then you present an opinion piece from an opposition TD as fact. Now your saying the government aren't above making political appointments. No sh!t Sherlock. :rolleyes:

    You get the Pullitzer prize for your 4th attempt.



    And still a complete absence of specifics. You said the government should begin at the 'top' and cut the quangos, and yet you won't name a single quango you want to get rid of.

    But now that you move away from quangos, which government department do you want to get rid of to save the money for WRH?
    Where in the article did he said that in his oppinion these people might have been appointed the fact is that they were.

    You know that many people in these quangos are considered civil servants so therefore cant be just gotten rid of a the click of a finger.

    To be honest im not going to reply to you any more as its a waste of time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 666 ✭✭✭deise blue


    Finnbar01 wrote: »
    Let's get rid of the arts, sport and tourism department (or whatever it calls itself) and its associated quislings for a start.

    Are you seriously trying to tell me that tourism would cease to exist because we don't have a quango to try and 'manage' it?

    You're having a laugh.

    Ireland as a nation can be rightly proud of it's achievements in the fields of art & sport & of course the tourism industry is vital to our economy.

    To abolish the Arts Council , the Sports Council & Failte Eireann would be a retrograde step - in the absence of these centralised bodies the promotion & funding of Arts , Sport & Tourism would become increasingly fragmented to the detriment of our economy , peoples access to & participation in art & sports .

    In view of the Nation's beleagured circumstances there is little option but to decrease funding to sports & the arts but to abolish the centralised bodies entirely is madness , in order to increase tourist numbers I think that Failte Eireann's budget should remain static or even increased.

    I must take issue with your reference to people associated with these bodies as being " quislings " - the accepted meaning of this word being fascist collaborating traitors - this is not only ridiculously judgemental but offensive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    mozattack wrote: »
    Its the doctors paid €200k - €250k per annum AND then are allowed to run a private practice in the same office up there. Couldn't make this up but I know it as a fact.

    The likes of them, the teachers and the garda are wrecking the country but won't be touched.

    Not fact at all, consultants pay was supposed to increase to 220k but did not , there was a further 10% pension levy and 10% pay cut. So consultants start at 155k now increasing to 177k after 5 years ( Cat B)
    Consultants on CAT A earn about 190k with no private practice allowed.

    Many consultants will not work in Ireland because they can earn twice the public pay in Australia, UK and US


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