Shocking Koran Quotes

Worztron

33.28
O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.

Muhammad married Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son. This verse suggests that the adopter may marry the wife of his adopted son and vice-versa:
Qur'an 33:4
"Allah has not made for any man two hearts within him; nor has He made your wives whose backs you liken to the backs of your mothers as your mothers, nor has He made those whom you assert to be your sons your real sons; these are the words of your mouths; and Allah speaks the truth and He guides to the way."

This verse allows men to have sex with women who are prisoners of war:
Qur'an 33:50
"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Man City 10

Ahhhhhhhhhh............
I am sleepy and tired.
It's been a long day of studying(barely got anything done)And my pres are finishing at Wednesday.
So got lazy lol, Better get off and start learning.
Sleep tight,do not let the bed bugs bite

Worztron

Quran 47:4
"Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

48.13
And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!

60.4
...there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever, unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone.

Man City 10

Worztron wrote: »

33.28
O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.

Muhammad married Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son. This verse suggests that the adopter may marry the wife of his adopted son and vice-versa:
Qur'an 33:4
"Allah has not made for any man two hearts within him; nor has He made your wives whose backs you liken to the backs of your mothers as your mothers, nor has He made those whom you assert to be your sons your real sons; these are the words of your mouths; and Allah speaks the truth and He guides to the way."

This verse allows men to have sex with women who are prisoners of war:
Qur'an 33:50
"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Where are you getting this from.
Give me a primary source proof, not some **** from the internet.
This is the biggest lie ever.
I have a english transalted Quran and home and no where it says this

krudler

Man City 10 wrote: »

Roses are red,
Violets are blue
I am removing myself from this thread,
And advise you should too

Violets are purple.


Just saying.

Worztron

Qur'an 65:4
A man can marry a girl who hasn't reached puberty
verse prescribes the waiting period of a female who has not yet reached puberty thereby permitting men to have sex with girls who have not reached puberty:
"Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy."

66:9
O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.

98:6 Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.
98:7 (And) lo! those who believe and do good works are the best of created beings.

Man City 10

Worztron wrote: »

Qur'an 65:4
A man can marry a girl who hasn't reached puberty
verse prescribes the waiting period of a female who has not yet reached puberty thereby permitting men to have sex with girls who have not reached puberty:
"Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy."

66:9
O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.

98:6 Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.
98:7 (And) lo! those who believe and do good works are the best of created beings.

Lol you know I am right :P

PopePalpatine

Murphj7 wrote: »

I happy to believe in our lord, dont need style, you my son are mindless with your fight against your creator GOD.

And your attempts at rebellion are pathetic to His Noodly Appendage.

Man City 10

krudler wrote: »

Violets are purple.


Just saying.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_are_violets
Maybe this will answer your questions,Obi Wan Kenobi

AK333

Murphj7 wrote: »

I happy to believe in our lord, dont need style, you my son are mindless with your fight against your creator GOD.

You can't spell, have no grammar and type like a mindless idiot - are you a product of these great catholic run schools?

You are doing my head in - go away :mad:

This thread is for reporting/discussing ongoing religious scandals - of which there are many - do not come on here spouting s...e! You are a troll

Sarky

I think it's pretty scandalous that religious thought could produce someone so lacking in mental faculties tbh.

Mark Hamill

Man City 10 wrote: »

Lol so wear it if you could.
Do you know who you arguing against, a boy and you are struggling
So if you had a debate with a full educated man imagine what would happen then

A full educated man wouldn't do as terrible a job as you of avoiding the question. Whys is that Islam treats women less than men? You were defending it, so defend it!

Man City 10 wrote: »

IN Christianity it is forbidden for gays to marry or else they burn in hell
But they marry???
And they still are Christians

Well, most christians doctrine would say they aren't christian. Your example is just one of many many reasons that we see so much a-la-carte christianity. People picking and choosing what they like, despite the religion itself not actually allowing for that. They can do this now because christianity has lost most of the kind of power that islam still has in a lot of countries.

Man City 10 wrote: »

In islam is the same women are told to cover them self and they can not but they are strong and demolish the sinful acts from the devil

In many islamic cultures, said women will be indoctrinated to cover up from a very young age, with the threat of punishment, both in the afterlife and from their authority figures. If covering up, to the extent of hijab, was a freely chosen act that simply served to make women feel clean and dignified, you would see non-islamic women do on a similar scale to islamic women. But we don't. It's almost entirely from religion that we see such an sexually unequal over-reaction to people expressing their physical selves, and its from islam that we it to such an extreme extent.

Mark Hamill

Man City 10 wrote: »

Slaughterhouses are full of animals that can see/hear/smell what's going on, and they get STRESSED. Halal butchering is supposed to be done out of the sight/hearing of the other animals, so as not to needlessly terrify them before it's their turn.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100513083252AAOyPVK
I am quoting because of his highness Mark Hamill :L

I am a vegetarian

Man City 10

Wow Wow Wow
Look's like i had this place in control now look what happened !!!!
Lol I better stay out of this one
Ye may continue

robindch

"Man City 10" and "Murphj7" -

I've just moved all of your recent uninformative posts (I think) into this thread to avoid other useful threads being clogged up with nonsense. Any more similarly uninformative posts will be moved here too, unless it gets to the point of silliness -- it may well have reached it already -- at which point cards + bans will be scattered about the place as and when the forum mods deem fit.

Worztron

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:88
Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

pauldla

Hi mods, can't past pg 21 of this thread...I think this might be similiar to the problem ninja had..?

Worztron

Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236
Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari 6:60:132
Narrated Aisha: ...Abu Bakr came to me and hit me violently on the chest...

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:65
Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:88
Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Sahih Bukhari 8:82:828
Abu Bakr struck Aisha
Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to towards me and struck me violently with his fist and said, "You have detained the people because of your necklace." But I remained motionless as if I was dead lest I should awake Allah's Apostle although that hit was very painful.

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Violence and pedophilia! Your thoughts 'Man City 10'?

Dades

More nonsense (and replies) deleted - last chance Man City.

Also, I think the thread is fully accessible again.

pauldla

Dades wrote: »

More nonsense (and replies) deleted - last chance Man City.

Also, I think the thread is fully accessible again.

It is accessible again, thanks mods. Though now I wonder if I was happier when I couldn't read it.

Dades

Thank Boards' Danny and the Hamsters of Destiny.

legspin

Dades wrote: »

Thank Boards' Danny and the Hamsters of Destiny.

I thought I saw that name very briefly here yesterday .

Worztron

Find attached, compilations of shocking hadith + quran quotes.

DB21

Right, someone has obviously let the loons at the mod's stash of blow. And I won't rest till I find out who is responsible :P

Worztron

The compilations of quotes I posted recently as text files mostly contained quotes from my previous posts in this thread. This was intended to make it easier for people to catch up and read all of the quotes.

Brown Bomber

This seems appropriate now:

O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do.[5:8]

Buzz84

I always find it weird that a lot of Atheists are actually obsessed with Religion.

DB21

Buzz84 wrote: »

I always find it weird that a lot of Atheists are actually obsessed with Religion.

Eh, no.

Once the religious stop swinging their nutsacks in our faces, we'll stop punching them in said nutsacks.

ShooterSF

Buzz84 wrote: »

I always find it weird that a lot of Atheists are actually obsessed with Religion.

How is it weird?

If large portions of the country believed homoeopathy was true and tried to impose it on all of us and 90% of our national schools taught it as true then even though I wouldn't believe in homoeopathy I'd be a lil obsessed with it.

robindch

DB21 wrote: »

Once the religious stop swinging their nutsacks in our faces, we'll stop punching them in said nutsacks.

Would be fairer to say that once the religious stop swinging their nutsacks in our faces, we'll stop asking them to keep their nutsacks to themselves.

DB21

robindch wrote: »

Would be fairer to say that once the religious stop swinging their nutsacks in our faces, we'll stop asking them to keep their nutsacks to themselves.

That works too.

Though it wouldn't be the first time we've had to ask catholics to keep their nutsacks to themselves :pac:


(I apologise if that joke offends anyone.)

robindch

^^^ On that topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTOQZWBUkI

dlofnep

Brown Bomber wrote: »

This seems appropriate now:

O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do.[5:8]

Yeah - it seems very appropriate that you are asked to 'fear' your God. That's not maniacal at all.

Buzz84

DB21 wrote: »

Eh, no.

Once the religious stop swinging their nutsacks in our faces, we'll stop punching them in said nutsacks.

I dont think anyone cares.

ShooterSF wrote: »

How is it weird?

If large portions of the country believed homoeopathy was true and tried to impose it on all of us and 90% of our national schools taught it as true then even though I wouldn't believe in homoeopathy I'd be a lil obsessed with it.

Yeah but they don't. Who's trying to impose religion on you? Being obsessed with something you don't believe in isn't healthy. Its pretty sad.

The Mad Hatter

Buzz84 wrote: »

Who's trying to impose religion on you?

Um, the Roman Catholic Church?

Buzz84

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Um, the Roman Catholic Church?

They are actually imposing on you by what means?

Is someone dragging you down to mass every Sunday and holding a gun to your head to say the Rosary.

I'm not a Catholic and nobody is imposing it on me.

DB21

Buzz84 wrote: »

They are actually imposing on you by what means?

Is someone dragging you down to mass every Sunday and holding a gun to your head to say the Rosary.

I'm not a Catholic and nobody is imposing it on me.

Church run schools (where religion/creation myth is a mandatory subject at primary level), laws influenced by the church (no alcohol can be sold on certain days, etc.). Stuff like that is an imposition on those of us who couldn't give a flying fuck about your invisible friend

oldrnwisr

Buzz84 wrote: »

They are actually imposing on you by what means?

Is someone dragging you down to mass every Sunday and holding a gun to your head to say the Rosary.

I'm not a Catholic and nobody is imposing it on me.

Well are you a parent? Or a woman? Or gay?

There are lots of ways in which the Catholic church continues to attempt to impose its beliefs on others.

Parents who have no religion are still forced to send their children to schools run by the Catholic church where catholicism is integrated into the curriculum and taught as fact.

Gay people still can't get married in this country and have the same legal rights as other married couples because of lobbying by the church and other christian groups.

Women in Ireland are faced with a battle with the Catholic church over their reproductive rights. The catholic church seeks to have them become a brood mare for the state with its views on abortion.

Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean that there isn't ample evidence for this imposition. That's what we call the argument from privilege which is really just a more refined version of the argument from ignorance.

Reekwind

ShooterSF wrote: »

How is it weird?

I'd say in that the response from atheists so often parrots the irrational and laziness of those that the profess to oppose. Something that this thread demonstrates: cutting select quotes from a religious text, regardless of context, does not a critique make

It may be that everyone who's posted quotes in this thread is actually well-versed in the history, technicalities and application of Islamic law or dogma but I doubt that. It's far more likely that most posters know nothing about Islam or its texts, save the out of context quotes gleaned from the internet, and are criticising out of complete ignorance

And that's where the great irony comes from: very few people obsess over religious texts/passages like atheists. In doing so they reduce religion to a single book and take that as (pun intended) holy scripture. A lot of people in this thread are simply following in the footsteps of fundamentalists and missing out on both the context and the several millennia of subsequent works

So if someone's critique of Islam, or any religion, is based primarily on "Well, your holy book says X" then please don't call yourself an atheist; you'll just embarrass the rest of us

Delirium

Buzz84 wrote: »

They are actually imposing on you by what means?

Is someone dragging you down to mass every Sunday and holding a gun to your head to say the Rosary.

I'm not a Catholic and nobody is imposing it on me.

Story of how the RCC in England and Wales demand teachers in (public faith) schools only have relationships that the church approves of.

The Catholic Church in England and Wales has issued a new booklet warning teachers and governors at Catholic schools that they risk dismissal if they enter a relationship that is not approved by the Church.

Source

Buzz84

oldrnwisr wrote: »

Well are you a parent? Or a woman? Or gay?

There are lots of ways in which the Catholic church continues to attempt to impose its beliefs on others.

Parents who have no religion are still forced to send their children to schools run by the Catholic church where catholicism is integrated into the curriculum and taught as fact.

Gay people still can't get married in this country and have the same legal rights as other married couples because of lobbying by the church and other christian groups.

Women in Ireland are faced with a battle with the Catholic church over their reproductive rights. The catholic church seeks to have them become a brood mare for the state with its views on abortion.

Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean that there isn't ample evidence for this imposition. That's what we call the argument from privilege which is really just a more refined version of the argument from ignorance.

Yes I am a parent. I have no religion and I'll happily send my child to the local Catholic school. I'd prefer my child to make his own mind up like I did myself instead of forcing my beliefs onto them.
Religion is a very small aspect in schools. Nobody is forced to believe it if they don't want to.

Would I be right in saying that their is more and more Educate Together Schools opening? Also I thought the minister had brought in reforms that every district can vote to remove their Schools from the Catholic System if they want to.

The issue around gay people getting married really is a matter for government not the Church. If the Government legislate for Gay Marriage their is F-all the Church can do about it.

Like I said previously the issue around abortion is a matter for government. A lot of people hold strong views on either side of the abortion argument weather they are religous or not. If Fine Gael actually have the balls to legislate for the x -case their is F-all the church can do.

robindch

Reekwind wrote: »

It may be that everyone who's posted quotes in this thread is actually well-versed in the history, technicalities and application of Islamic law or dogma but I doubt that. It's far more likely that most posters know nothing about Islam or its texts, save the out of context quotes gleaned from the internet, and are criticising out of complete ignorance

Atheists and agnostics, at least on this forum and I suspect in society more generally, hold their views because they understand religion, not because they don't.

Have a look at the 2010 "Religious Knowledge Survey" from the Pew Research Center which shows that your average atheist or agnostic knows significantly more about religion than the religious do:

http://www.pewforum.org/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey-who-knows-what-about-religion.aspx

robindch

Buzz84 wrote: »

Religion is a very small aspect in schools. Nobody is forced to believe it if they don't want to.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of posts on this forum alone which attest to exactly the opposite.

Buzz84

Reekwind wrote: »

I'd say in that the response from atheists so often parrots the irrational and laziness of those that the profess to oppose. Something that this thread demonstrates: cutting select quotes from a religious text, regardless of context, does not a critique make

It may be that everyone who's posted quotes in this thread is actually well-versed in the history, technicalities and application of Islamic law or dogma but I doubt that. It's far more likely that most posters know nothing about Islam or its texts, save the out of context quotes gleaned from the internet, and are criticising out of complete ignorance

And that's where the great irony comes from: very few people obsess over religious texts/passages like atheists. In doing so they reduce religion to a single book and take that as (pun intended) holy scripture. A lot of people in this thread are simply following in the footsteps of fundamentalists and missing out on both the context and the several millennia of subsequent works

So if someone's critique of Islam, or any religion, is based primarily on "Well, your holy book says X" then please don't call yourself an atheist; you'll just embarrass the rest of us

100% agree well said

Buzz84

robindch wrote: »

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of posts on this forum alone which attest to exactly the opposite.

I went to a Catholic School I wasn't forced to believe anything.

robindch

Buzz84 wrote: »

I went to a Catholic School I wasn't forced to believe anything.

Happy to hear it.

As I said above, that's not the case with many other schools, many other children and many other posters.

Putting my finger in the air, I'd say religious interference in schools -- including indoctrination against the wishes, and frequently without the knowledge, of the parents -- is amongst the most commonly-appearing topics on this forum.

oldrnwisr

Buzz84 wrote: »

Yes I am a parent. I have no religion and I'll happily send my child to the local Catholic school. I'd prefer my child to make his own mind up like I did myself instead of forcing my beliefs onto them.
Religion is a very small aspect in schools. Nobody is forced to believe it if they don't want to.

First of all, what beliefs exactly do you not force upon them. If you have no religious beliefs, then what is there to force on your children. The thing is though, you are forcing beliefs on them. Like I said in my last post, Catholicism in primary schools is not presented as if "Catholics believe X" it is taught as "Catholicism is true". When you have a teacher who is there to teach them facts and they teach them that catholicism's teachings are facts then the child has no reason to doubt the teacher and you get indoctrination. It's not a question of being forced to believe, it's just that when religion is presented as fact from an early age then the child grows up without questioning its truth.

Buzz84 wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that their is more and more Educate Together Schools opening? Also I thought the minister had brought in reforms that every district can vote to remove their Schools from the Catholic System if they want to.

Yes, there are more ET schools opening up but the Catholic run schools still represent over 90% of the total, so in rural areas choice of school becomes a real problem. Also, if this issue, which is a constitutional rights issue, is left to majority vote, then there is no hope of progress.

Buzz84 wrote: »

The issue around gay people getting married really is a matter for government not the Church. If the Government legislate for Gay Marriage their is F-all the Church can do about it.

Like I said previously the issue around abortion is a matter for government. A lot of people hold strong views on either side of the abortion argument weather they are religous or not. If Fine Gael actually have the balls to legislate for the x -case their is F-all the church can do.

As I said, in my last post, the Catholic church are attempting to impose their beliefs on others, attempting being the important word. Whether or not they are successful doesn't mean they're still not going to give it the old college try.

Buzz84

robindch wrote: »

Happy to hear it.

As I said above, that's not the case with many other schools, many other children and many other posters.

Putting my finger in the air, I'd say religious interference in schools -- including indoctrination against the wishes, and frequently without the knowledge, of the parents -- is amongst the most commonly-appearing topics on this forum.

I love that word makes it sound far more sinister.

The reality is the vast majority of people and especially children dont give an absolute monkeys about religion.

Without their knowledge, they send their kids to a Catholic school and then are shocked that their kids are taught about religion. Shock horror.

Buzz84

oldrnwisr wrote: »

First of all, what beliefs exactly do you not force upon them. If you have no religious beliefs, then what is there to force on your children. The thing is though, you are forcing beliefs on them. Like I said in my last post, Catholicism in primary schools is not presented as if "Catholics believe X" it is taught as "Catholicism is true". When you have a teacher who is there to teach them facts and they teach them that catholicism's teachings are facts then the child has no reason to doubt the teacher and you get indoctrination. It's not a question of being forced to believe, it's just that when religion is presented as fact from an early age then the child grows up without questioning its truth.




Yes, there are more ET schools opening up but the Catholic run schools still represent over 90% of the total, so in rural areas choice of school becomes a real problem. Also, if this issue, which is a constitutional rights issue, is left to majority vote, then there is no hope of progress.




As I said, in my last post, the Catholic church are attempting to impose their beliefs on others, attempting being the important word. Whether or not they are successful doesn't mean they're still not going to give it the old college try.

So no one is being forced then yeah?

robindch

Buzz84 wrote: »

Without their knowledge, they send their kids to a Catholic school and then are shocked that their kids are taught about religion. Shock horror.

If you'd like to stay around and debate the influence of religion in Irish schools, then please do.

If, on the other hand, you just want to ignore people's experiences while posting a set of disconnected one-liners which are as predictable as they are tedious, then After Hours is thattaway.