Upgrading my alarm, comparison of different models

Mylow

davkav wrote: »

Keypad looks nice and fresh (if thats the word) over the Aritech one. Hoping to get it fitted over the weekend. Ill post pics of the two units beside each other and the mess that is my existing panel.

Did you get it fitted? Any hints/tips? Any pitfalls.

I have been looking at changing alarm system. Looked at Cytech as well, it has X10, C-Bus and KNX interface. I was wondering if Siemens will support a different protocol for integration into Automation systems.

davkav

Still haven't gotten around to fitting this wouldn't ya know.

Any Saturday I plan on fitting it something comes up... Maybe this Saturday if Im lucky haha

Dardania

Subscribing to this thread, as I'm planning getting one of these panels for if/when a house purchase goes through... Any chance of an oul demo of this yoke Davkav?!

Edit: found the manual: https://uk.spiap.com/uploads/uk/files/spc42xx_43xx_52xx_53xx_63xx_-_installation&configuration_manual__step__a6v10276959,_version__2.3_.pdf

KoolKid

The SigNET 220is replaced with Siemens 5330 with some added features. Is this what your looking for a demo of?

Dardania

KoolKid wrote: »

The SigNET 220is replaced with Siemens 5330 with some added features. Is this what your looking for a demo of?

Really what I'm looking for is to see the web interface in action, to see what you can do with it...particularly when starting to hook up to other systems in the home

KoolKid

Where are you located?

davkav

Ok blast from the past, but would you believe I finally got around to installing the Siemens SPC last night.

For now I have just wired the panel the same as the Aritech Cs350 was. I do plan on tidying up zones etc. once I have the system fully up and running and I am familiar with the software.



I have to say SPC Pro is class software. It makes things so much easier than having to code from the keypad.

I do however have two small issue I couldnt sort out last night and I hope someone can help me out here.

In SPC Pro the icon to edit users is not shown. The only place I could add a user was through the keypad. Any ideas why this is?
The second issue is that I cannot for the life of me get the system out of engineering mode. The instructions say that it will not come out of engineering mode unless all alerts are cleared which they were. I had to set the alarm in Soft Engineer mode last night as I couldnt get out of it.

Mr. G

Firstly, I wouldn't have it in a hot press.

That's not why you can't get out of engineering btw.

KoolKid

Hot press is fine for a retro fit. However that argument has been well bashed out here before.
In SPC pro once you enter soft engineer and then disconnect the panel will leave engineer mode if all is good.

davkav

Mr_Grumpy wrote: »

Firstly, I wouldn't have it in a hot press.

That's not why you can't get out of engineering btw.

Thats where the original one was located

KoolKid wrote: »

In SPC pro once you enter soft engineer and then disconnect the panel will leave engineer mode if all is good.

I thought that would work but it doesn't seem too. There is nothing connected to it at the moment and I have toggled between Full and soft engineer via the keypad and it still won't kick out.

KoolKid

And what's happening when you try to leave soft engineer from the keypad?

davkav

It seems like I can only switch from Full to Soft Engineer, I cant get out of either engineering modes fully.

davkav

Ok so if I go into Full Engineer on the keypad and then exit Full back to soft there is no option to get out of engineering. The screen just displays Engineer Enabled.

Edit: Got it, I'm so stupid sometimes. The one and only user I had set up was a standard user. I needed to setup a second user with access control and then disable the engineer mode.

KoolKid

Engineer enabled displays when you exit engineer . It just means Engineer Access has been enabled by the user. (En 50131 stuff)

davkav

KoolKid wrote: »

Engineer enabled displays when you exit engineer . It just means Engineer Access has been enabled by the user. (En 50131 stuff)

Ah... right, makes sense I suppose.

Right I have it wired over Ethernet now so it is accessible over my home network. Now I don't have camp out in the hot press anymore

KoolKid

Now off to your router and forward port 443 and 50000 to your panel and you won't even have to be at home.

davkav

KoolKid wrote: »

Now off to your router and forward port 443 and 50000 to your panel and you won't even have to be at home.

Haha not quite. I still have a lot of config to do. Entry/Exit isnt working correctly so I am looking into that at the moment. The front door is configured as an Entry/Exit but it doesn't allow for me to set the alarm and then lock up.

Like wise when I came home and opened the front door the alarm just went off with no entry time.

Side note: sitting at the kitchen table configuring my alarm is uber cool



I still don't have access to user control via SPC Pro which is pretty strange....

KoolKid

For your entry exit issue , goto keypad setting and ensure the location of the keypad is set at area1.

davkav

Ok there is only one area configured on the system (there is a tick box to enable more than one area) so everything that is connected is in area 1.

With the system unarmed, if I open a door be it the front door or back door etc. the keypad starts to beep and I have to enter the code to silence it. I must have this configured arse ways.

Edit: If you read the instructions it probably helps....
I had the option CHIME enabled so every input that I triggered was sending a fault to the keypad.

garry gold

Hi

By any chance does anyone have a copy or know where i could get a copy of the signet 1.4 version I need it to up grade to Seimens/vanderbuilt version

KoolKid

garry gold wrote: »

Hi

By any chance does anyone have a copy or know where i could get a copy of the signet 1.4 version I need it to up grade to Seimens/vanderbuilt version

PMed you version 1.4